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Title: Trimotor and Coal Ramjet Cutlasses in FD Scale - FINISHED
Post by: dy031101 on May 21, 2020, 01:48:54 PM
FD scale is 22.093 pixels = 1 metre.  However, since the book where I got the drawing doesn't have dimensions for the design, I'm forced to approximate based on the size of the J46 engine.  The scaled drawing turns out to be a deal bigger than the real-life Cutlass.

(https://i.imgur.com/sk0yuXz.png)

So it begins:

(https://i.imgur.com/bhoZqKF.png)

I experimentally fitted a nose to the style of the F7U-3.  Not what the finished product will go with, this much I know now.
Title: Re: Trimotor Cutlass in FD Scale
Post by: dy031101 on May 22, 2020, 02:00:33 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/PAaBP9x.png)

I shall proceed with the wings later today.

The ultimate plan is to do side view and then top view.
Title: Re: Trimotor Cutlass in FD Scale
Post by: dy031101 on May 24, 2020, 02:05:31 PM
Much better:

(https://i.imgur.com/TzYp34m.png)
Title: Re: Trimotor Cutlass in FD Scale
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 25, 2020, 03:08:23 AM
 :smiley:
Title: Re: Trimotor Cutlass in FD Scale
Post by: dy031101 on May 25, 2020, 01:07:01 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/oIEUF3x.png)(https://i.imgur.com/Ttl5GdN.png)

I want to implement a simple inflight refueling probe à la Fury and Super Sabre...... but as shown, it ended up being exceptionally long...... which one of the above two would be okay, how can I make the scheme more workable, or is there something else I should try?

Comments and suggests will be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Trimotor Cutlass in FD Scale
Post by: Robomog on May 25, 2020, 05:29:51 PM
Nice profile and concept, you could possibly  put the fuel probe  to one side of the cockpit much like the Buccaneer

I was originally going to suggest over the cockpit HP Victor style but that would foul the ejector seat somewhat  :o

Mog
>^-.-^<
Title: Re: Trimotor Cutlass in FD Scale
Post by: dy031101 on May 26, 2020, 12:01:42 PM
:smiley:
Nice profile and concept, you could possibly  put the fuel probe  to one side of the cockpit much like the Buccaneer

Thanks.  :))

Robomog, your suggestion reminded me that the Cutlass has fuel tanks a short distance behind the cockpit...... and the line drawing that I used as a basis of this project (and posted at the OP) suggests a similar arrangement.

(https://i.imgur.com/1o5aByX.png)

And this way I get to retain the use of inner wing pylons.

I decide to add representation of folding wings.  Even if not as a carrier aircraft, I imagine it as a "large light fighter".
Title: Re: Trimotor and Coal Ramjet Cutlasses in FD Scale
Post by: dy031101 on May 29, 2020, 03:22:39 PM
I decided to add another aircraft to this project.

I have always been fascinated with the Lippisch P.13b (http://www.luft46.com/lippisch/lip13b.html) project, and a couple of days ago it dawned on me that I do want to stick a "Cutlass cockpit" of sort onto it because 1.) radar and 2.) its line drawing suggests a high angle-of-attack on takeoff and/or landing, and the cockpit design of the F7U-3 seems to give the best forward visibility.  So I scaled up the Lippisch P.13b drawing to match the Cutlass and started from there.

(https://i.imgur.com/3bHc2H0.png)
Title: Re: Trimotor and Coal Ramjet Cutlasses in FD Scale
Post by: finsrin on May 29, 2020, 04:17:12 PM
So many Cutlass based/like concepts.  Highly interesting.  :smiley:
Title: Re: Trimotor and Coal Ramjet Cutlasses in FD Scale
Post by: dy031101 on June 01, 2020, 03:16:05 AM
The development so far:

(https://i.imgur.com/wRksexz.png)

(The wheels are just there for demonstration purposes.)

I figured that paved runways, something I'm not sure if skids would be good for, would be the norm by the 1950s.  Also I desire more ground clearance for missile carriage.  The rear end of each main landing gear housings contains a rocket motor for takeoff and acceleration towards the main ramjet's operating speed whereas the front end transitions from a gondola mounting a 30 x 113 mm revolver cannon.

I shortened the main landing gears, however, so that I won't have to extend the nose wheel any further to preserve angle of attack on takeoff and/or landing.  Is there anything I should pay attention to when doing so?  Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Trimotor and Coal Ramjet Cutlasses in FD Scale
Post by: GTX_Admin on June 01, 2020, 03:45:54 AM
 :smiley:
Title: Re: Trimotor and Coal Ramjet Cutlasses in FD Scale
Post by: dy031101 on June 04, 2020, 02:22:52 PM
Everything was simple while still just inside of my head  :-X

(https://i.imgur.com/s2bbSBe.png)
Title: Re: Trimotor and Coal Ramjet Cutlasses in FD Scale
Post by: GTX_Admin on June 05, 2020, 03:11:23 AM
Everything was simple while still just inside of my head  :-X

It always is... ;D
Title: Re: Trimotor and Coal Ramjet Cutlasses in FD Scale
Post by: finsrin on June 05, 2020, 05:43:23 AM
Everything was simple while still just inside of my head  :-X

It always is... ;D

 Profound statement, can soooo relate to it.
Title: Re: Trimotor and Coal Ramjet Cutlasses in FD Scale
Post by: dy031101 on June 14, 2020, 04:00:09 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/V6TcMHR.png)

"Feature Complete" with Shafrir-2 and AIM-7E2.  Another "large light fighter" and therefore given folding wings.

(https://i.imgur.com/K2Yu9Mt.png)

This missile combination represents their early service weapons.

Now on to giving them camos...... again, everything was simple while still just inside of my head :-X
Title: Re: Trimotor and Coal Ramjet Cutlasses in FD Scale
Post by: Robomog on June 16, 2020, 06:00:29 PM
Doesn't need camo both look good in silver/gray  :smiley: :smiley:

Mog
>^-.-^<
Title: Re: Trimotor and Coal Ramjet Cutlasses in FD Scale
Post by: dy031101 on July 20, 2020, 01:33:02 PM
Al~righty~~ (for the Trimotor Cutlass) in upgraded form!

(https://i.imgur.com/QktWzSw.png)
Title: Re: Trimotor and Coal Ramjet Cutlasses in FD Scale
Post by: finsrin on July 20, 2020, 03:19:17 PM
Nice....  :smiley:

Sparks idea to build 1/72 large Cutlass from Revell 1/60 kit.
Title: Re: Trimotor and Coal Ramjet Cutlasses in FD Scale
Post by: Robomog on July 20, 2020, 05:30:05 PM
Ok call me liar,  looks great with camo  :smiley: 8) ;D ;D

Mog
>^-.-^<
Title: Re: Trimotor and Coal Ramjet Cutlasses in FD Scale
Post by: GTX_Admin on July 21, 2020, 02:36:22 AM
 :smiley:
Title: Re: Trimotor and Coal Ramjet Cutlasses in FD Scale
Post by: dy031101 on August 09, 2020, 09:08:20 AM
Ramjet Cutlass upgraded and getting camouflages to match their mission, with indications of their sizes:

(https://i.imgur.com/vSqq2sa.png)

I revisited the American Secret Project book for other Cutlass-derived ideas.  The good news is that I did find more inspirations......

...... the bad news is I discovered only now that, for the trimotor Cutlass, I'd been working off the proportions of the J34 turbojets rather than the much-longer J46 that I foolishly assumed.  Long story short, I have to lengthen the fuselage.

(https://i.imgur.com/Z5GMLn2.png)

Now I need to reapply that camo...... *banging head*
Title: Re: Trimotor and Coal Ramjet Cutlasses in FD Scale
Post by: GTX_Admin on August 10, 2020, 02:42:31 AM
What weapons foo you have on those?
Title: Re: Trimotor and Coal Ramjet Cutlasses in FD Scale
Post by: dy031101 on August 10, 2020, 05:32:25 AM
What weapons foo you have on those?

Both aircraft have 2 x 30mm revolver cannons (think DEFA), as well as 2 x Shafrir-2 and 2 x AIM-7E2 in early service, 2 x Python 5 and 2 x iDerby in late service.

MICA-EM and -IR are actually my preferred "current year" missile combo behind that of the Meteor/AMRAAM-C and ASRAAM/AIM-9X, but I'm under the impression of them being an expensive weapon without somebody else already establishing an economy of scale beforehand......
Title: Re: Trimotor and Coal Ramjet Cutlasses in FD Scale - FINISHED FOR REAL!
Post by: dy031101 on August 16, 2020, 03:42:32 PM
Finally the adjustment is complete.

(https://i.imgur.com/l07Vx68.png)