Beyond The Sprues

Modelling => Ideas & Inspiration => Aero-space => Topic started by: elmayerle on October 05, 2017, 09:02:55 AM

Title: Fiat G.55/56/59 et al.
Post by: elmayerle on October 05, 2017, 09:02:55 AM: Starting this new topic because there doesn't appear to be one to address these excellent Italian aircraft.

For a starter idea, I've been toying with the whif of the G.55S prototype being captured by the Germans, repainted in Lufwaffe markings, and attacking with a Bxx246 gliding torpedo. The G.55S kit is readily available in 1/72 as is the Revell kit of the Fw190F-8 with the Bv246.

Second thought I expressed in Recent Acquisitions, a G.55B built during the war and fitted with the radar from a Fw190A-8/R11 as a nightfighter in either RSI or Luftwaffe markings.
Title: Re: Fiat G.55/56/59 et al.
Post by: Daryl J. on October 05, 2017, 09:18:54 AM: Reno Unlimited Racer.
Agip Ferrari markings
Title: Re: Fiat G.55/56/59 et al.
Post by: kitnut617 on October 05, 2017, 09:23:40 AM: Quote from: elmayerle on October 05, 2017, 09:02:55 AM

For a starter idea, I've been toying with the whif of the G.55S prototype being captured by the Germans, repainted in Lufwaffe markings, and attacking with a Bxx246 gliding torpedo. The G.55S kit is readily available in 1/72 as is the Revell kit of the Fw190F-8 with the Bv246.

Like this Evan

http://www.aircraftaces.com/images/fiat-g55.jpg (http://www.aircraftaces.com/images/fiat-g55.jpg)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e7/Fiat_G.55_Torpedo.jpg (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e7/Fiat_G.55_Torpedo.jpg)
Title: Re: Fiat G.55/56/59 et al.
Post by: elmayerle on October 05, 2017, 10:18:55 AM: Quote from: kitnut617 on October 05, 2017, 09:23:40 AM
Like this Evan

[url]http://www.aircraftaces.com/images/fiat-g55.jpg[/url] ([url]http://www.aircraftaces.com/images/fiat-g55.jpg[/url])

[url]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e7/Fiat_G.55_Torpedo.jpg[/url] ([url]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e7/Fiat_G.55_Torpedo.jpg[/url])

Yeah, but with a Bv246 and in Luftwaffe markings, not RSI. I'm very, very tempted to acquire the necessary kits and see how it all fits together.
Title: Re: Fiat G.55/56/59 et al.
Post by: GTX_Admin on October 06, 2017, 01:56:57 AM: A couple I did ages ago:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/More%20Creations/g55bc.gif)

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/More%20Creations/G55super.jpg)
Title: Re: Fiat G.55/56/59 et al.
Post by: GTX_Admin on October 06, 2017, 01:57:48 AM: An extreme high altitude variant with stretched wings and turbocharger (under fuselage):

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/More%20Creations/24.jpg)
Title: Re: Fiat G.55/56/59 et al.
Post by: GTX_Admin on October 06, 2017, 01:58:15 AM: Twinned G55:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/More%20Creations/g55Z.jpg)
Title: Re: Fiat G.55/56/59 et al.
Post by: GTX_Admin on October 06, 2017, 01:59:35 AM: Quote from: Daryl J. on October 05, 2017, 09:18:54 AM
Reno Unlimited Racer.
Agip Ferrari markings

You were saying...

(https://simotron.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/tumblr_ma4415is6f1qk3o30o2_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Fiat G.55/56/59 et al.
Post by: AXOR on October 06, 2017, 02:53:19 AM: ;D

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4227/34590955423_29ddd9e0c7_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Fiat G.55/56/59 et al.
Post by: elmayerle on October 06, 2017, 07:44:14 AM: Quote from: GTX_Admin on October 06, 2017, 01:58:15 AM
Twinned G55:

([url]http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/More%20Creations/g55Z.jpg[/url])

Also known as a G.58 as Trophe and others have documented.
Title: Re: Fiat G.55/56/59 et al.
Post by: elmayerle on October 06, 2017, 07:46:48 AM: Quote from: GTX_Admin on October 06, 2017, 01:56:57 AM
A couple I did ages ago:

([url]http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/More%20Creations/g55bc.gif[/url])

Essentially a G.59/3 but retaining the original DB605 (or license-built version) engine instead of switching to the Merlin.
Title: Re: Fiat G.55/56/59 et al.
Post by: Daryl J. on October 06, 2017, 07:48:46 AM: Oooooh!
Title: Re: Fiat G.55/56/59 et al.
Post by: GTX_Admin on October 07, 2017, 02:21:06 AM: Quote from: elmayerle on October 06, 2017, 07:44:14 AM
Also known as a G.58 as Trophe and others have documented.

Kind of, though mine was purely fictional and had two crew and different wing/gun arrangements than the real G.58 concept shown below:

(http://www.egamers.it/contest/foto/italianplanes/g55series/Fiat%20G58.png)
Title: Re: Fiat G.55/56/59 et al.
Post by: GTX_Admin on October 07, 2017, 02:24:25 AM: Quote from: elmayerle on October 06, 2017, 07:46:48 AM

Essentially a G.59/3 but retaining the original DB605 (or license-built version) engine instead of switching to the Merlin.

Yep.

My favourite is actually the one shown below that with the contra-prop and stretched fuselage.
Title: Re: Fiat G.55/56/59 et al.
Post by: GTX_Admin on October 07, 2017, 02:27:22 AM: I thought that I had done a floatplane version of the G.55S (shown below) but do you think I can find it...

(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/4a/ab/a4/4aaba48dbf001cfde79efe0571d29a66--planes.jpg)
Title: Re: Fiat G.55/56/59 et al.
Post by: GTX_Admin on October 07, 2017, 06:38:22 AM: Some more inspiration from Clave:

(http://www.clavework-graphics.co.uk/aircraft/fantasy_3/F234_Fiat_G55A_Romania.jpg)
(http://www.clavework-graphics.co.uk/aircraft/fantasy_5/F415_Fiat_G55A_Zambia.jpg)
(http://www.clavework-graphics.co.uk/aircraft/fantasy_1/F080_Fiat_G55_GB_85Sqn.jpg)
Title: Re: Fiat G.55/56/59 et al.
Post by: ysi_maniac on October 09, 2018, 05:23:31 PM: I dislike Centauro's canopy. So, what do you prefer?

(http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j340/ysi_maniac/Drawing/G55_canopy.jpeg) (http://s1080.photobucket.com/user/ysi_maniac/media/Drawing/G55_canopy.jpeg.html)
Title: Re: Fiat G.55/56/59 et al.
Post by: kitnut617 on October 09, 2018, 06:36:51 PM: Quote from: GTX_Admin on October 07, 2017, 02:21:06 AM
Quote from: elmayerle on October 06, 2017, 07:44:14 AM
Also known as a G.58 as Trophe and others have documented.

Kind of, though mine was purely fictional and had two crew and different wing/gun arrangements than the real G.58 concept shown below:

([url]http://www.egamers.it/contest/foto/italianplanes/g55series/Fiat%20G58.png[/url])

Ten cannons :o

And that reminds me I have to finish this too ---- :-X
Title: Re: Fiat G.55/56/59 et al.
Post by: ysi_maniac on October 12, 2018, 11:30:45 AM: (http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j340/ysi_maniac/WRK/italianWWII_CS.jpg) (http://s1080.photobucket.com/user/ysi_maniac/media/WRK/italianWWII_CS.jpg.html)

In this order: Folgore, Veltro, Orione, and Centauro. Last one is a creation by Gabrielli, the others by Castoldi

Do you know why italian fighter were so similar, particularly cockpit area look the same? Did Castoldi and Gabrielli share papers?
Title: Re: Fiat G.55/56/59 et al.
Post by: elmayerle on October 12, 2018, 01:37:50 PM: At a guess, I would say strong customer input and, quite possibly, insistence. IIRC, the equivalent Caproni Reggiane designs had similar cockpits and aft of the canopy fairings, too; despite the Re.2001 prototype flying with a clear-view aft canopy.
Title: Re: Fiat G.55/56/59 et al.
Post by: GTX_Admin on October 30, 2018, 02:37:32 AM: Post war Spanish:

(http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh173/SPINNERS1961/WHAT%20IF%202010/WHAT%20IF%20ALBUM%20A/EDA%20G.55%20CENTAURO.03_zps3ufuvvvq.jpg)

Carrier based:

(http://www.mediafire.com/conv/ddca50ac802b76e59f33960868230f97b8bc64b3fc4aa58da4667cffbdc902776g.jpg)
Title: Re: Fiat G.55/56/59 et al.
Post by: ysi_maniac on October 30, 2018, 11:18:43 AM: ^^^^
Just great!!! :smiley: :-* :-*
Title: Re: Fiat G.55/56/59 et al.
Post by: elmayerle on October 30, 2018, 03:05:30 PM: A Merlin-powered, navalized G.55S strikes me as a rather attractive proposition if the Italian navy had some carriers post WW II.