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Which one to draw?

F-4 (probably C/D)
3 (33.3%)
F-105
0 (0%)
F-1/T-2
2 (22.2%)
Buccaneer
3 (33.3%)
Skyhawk
1 (11.1%)

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Voting closed: July 19, 2018, 11:23:29 PM

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Re: Damian's Profiles: The Buccaneer - More Progress - A sneak preaview!
« Reply #125 on: August 16, 2018, 05:58:22 AM »
Excellent news! I'm wondering what the Bucc's  Marineflieger nickname would be. I note that buccaneer translates into der Flibustier although I kind of like der Seeräuber and das Piratenschiff as too  :D

I need to figure out USN/USMC, USAF and RAAF and NZ designations...Japan too...:D
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Re: Damian's Profiles: The Buccaneer - More Progress - A sneak preaview!
« Reply #126 on: August 16, 2018, 06:19:12 AM »
Good question. Of course, the answer depends upon when the Buccaneer enters US service. How about 'A-11'?

There's no confirmed A-11 designation in the current system (A-10 was applied in the '70s, A-12 in the late '80s). Going by the F-111C and F/A-18s, I doubt that Australia would apply its own designation. Maybe JA-11 for the JASDF?
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Re: Damian's Profiles: The Buccaneer - More Progress - A sneak preaview!
« Reply #127 on: August 16, 2018, 10:07:58 AM »
Depending on when this is, too, you could just use "A-8". A lot of people don't realize that the Harrier (AV-8) is in the attack aircraft line.

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Re: Damian's Profiles: The Buccaneer - More Progress - A sneak preaview!
« Reply #128 on: August 16, 2018, 01:48:15 PM »
Looks great!!  If you are taking requests, I definitely have one for a Buccaneer in Marineflieger markings, either MFG1 or MFG2.


Hmmm sounds like it might be a plan. Could you post a pic or two of the scheme here please?






These should do for samples.

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Re: Damian's Profiles: The Buccaneer - More Progress - A sneak preaview!
« Reply #129 on: August 16, 2018, 02:32:19 PM »
Looks great!!  If you are taking requests, I definitely have one for a Buccaneer in Marineflieger markings, either MFG1 or MFG2.


Hmmm sounds like it might be a plan. Could you post a pic or two of the scheme here please?






These should do for samples.


Indeed they do!
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Re: Damian's Profiles: The Buccaneer - More Progress - A sneak preaview!
« Reply #130 on: August 16, 2018, 02:37:58 PM »
Good question. Of course, the answer depends upon when the Buccaneer enters US service. How about 'A-11'?

There's no confirmed A-11 designation in the current system (A-10 was applied in the '70s, A-12 in the late '80s). Going by the F-111C and F/A-18s, I doubt that Australia would apply its own designation. Maybe JA-11 for the JASDF?

Well the airframe is an S2 which entered British service in '62, so '64-'65 tri-service introduction in my world, therefore I could call it the A-7. Either that or go with  Logan's suggestion of A-8 with the A-7 being used for more of a CAS role with the A-8 fulfilling anti-ship and deep strike roles.
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Re: Damian's Profiles: The Buccaneer - More Progress - A sneak preaview!
« Reply #131 on: August 17, 2018, 11:39:21 AM »
Personally, I like the A-8 designation as it would fit the progression.  Supposedly the reason the designation was never used was to avoid confusion with the AV-8A Harrier, which really should have been the AV-6B, following on to the XV-6A Kestrel.

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Re: Damian's Profiles: The Buccaneer - More Progress - A sneak preaview!
« Reply #132 on: August 17, 2018, 11:44:52 AM »
Yeah, I think A-8 might be a pretty elegant solution that fits the timeframe well and avoids the more familiar attack designations.

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Re: Damian's Profiles: The Buccaneer - More Progress - A sneak preaview!
« Reply #133 on: August 17, 2018, 02:57:22 PM »
Thus it is decided that the plane will be called the A-8 Buccaneer! 
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Re: Damian's Profiles: The Buccaneer - More Progress - A sneak preaview!
« Reply #134 on: February 25, 2020, 11:42:20 PM »
Look what the cat dragged in. Been laid up with a broken ankle so got back to drawing.

It's not a Bucc but it is ready for paint :)



Got the blank done today. So, some Fleet Air Arm???
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Re: Damian's Profiles: It's not a necro post!!!
« Reply #135 on: February 26, 2020, 02:06:29 AM »
Good to see you again.  some suggested profiles:

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Taiwanese
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« Reply #136 on: February 26, 2020, 03:33:41 AM »
Good to see you again.  some suggested profiles:

Japanese
Sth Korean
Italian
Taiwanese
Sth Vietnamese
Turkish
West German
French
Finnish
Norwegian
Austrian
Egyptian

LOL! Such a small list!!!

Will some anti-flash white suffice for now?



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Re: Damian's Profiles: It's not a necro post!!!
« Reply #137 on: February 26, 2020, 06:43:24 AM »
Your Skyhawk looks fantastic, and the RNAS colour scheme is spot on. However, I am
curious as to the model/mark of this aircraft - an A-4D, perhaps?

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« Reply #138 on: February 26, 2020, 01:41:45 PM »
Your Skyhawk looks fantastic, and the RNAS colour scheme is spot on. However, I am
curious as to the model/mark of this aircraft - an A-4D, perhaps?

I was trying to figure out what the UK MOD would have used based on the following:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_military_aircraft_designation_systems

Went with the same designation as the Hunters. Though I wonder if I should have gone with FG instead of FGA?
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Re: Damian's Profiles: It's not a necro post!!!
« Reply #139 on: February 26, 2020, 09:27:29 PM »
I thought the Scooter would look good in Suez colours.



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Re: Damian's Profiles: Skyhawk FGA.1 897 NAS
« Reply #140 on: February 27, 2020, 12:13:56 AM »
Beautiful Scooters!!  Can I get one in the markings of 804 NAS?

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Re: Damian's Profiles: Skyhawk FGA.1 897 NAS
« Reply #141 on: February 27, 2020, 01:45:23 AM »
Beautiful Scooters!!  Can I get one in the markings of 804 NAS?

Shouldn't be too difficult. The one with the knife wielding tiger on the nose?
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Re: Damian's Profiles: Skyhawk FGA.1 897 NAS
« Reply #142 on: February 27, 2020, 02:21:36 AM »
Beautiful Scooters!!  Can I get one in the markings of 804 NAS?

Will this do?



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Re: Damian's Profiles: Skyhawk FGA.1 804 NAS
« Reply #143 on: February 27, 2020, 02:45:16 AM »
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Re: Damian's Profiles: Skyhawk FGA.1 804 NAS
« Reply #144 on: February 27, 2020, 08:27:02 AM »
I wonder, would the FAA and/or RAF replace the 20mm cannons on the "stock" A-4 with ADEN 30mm cannons, much as the Israelis substituted DEFA 30mm cannons?

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« Reply #145 on: February 28, 2020, 01:18:11 AM »
I wonder, would the FAA and/or RAF replace the 20mm cannons on the "stock" A-4 with ADEN 30mm cannons, much as the Israelis substituted DEFA 30mm cannons?

That makes sense. Singapore's A-4S would later receive ADENs in place of the Colt Mk 12s ... so we know that the 30 mms fit  :smiley:
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Re: Damian's Profiles: Skyhawk FGA.1 804 NAS
« Reply #146 on: February 28, 2020, 03:42:41 AM »
Maybe also an Italian one in this sort of scheme:

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Re: Damian's Profiles: Skyhawk FGA.1 804 NAS
« Reply #147 on: February 28, 2020, 04:40:11 AM »
Maybe also an Italian one in this sort of scheme:



Was actually going to make a Skyhawk the G.91 stand in so Itallian AF was on the menu. Wondering if I should jump on an A-4C/L or E/F for it?
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« Reply #148 on: February 29, 2020, 09:39:10 AM »
Wasn't there consideration of submitting the A4D-2N (A-4C) for NBMR-1 against the G.91? If so, the 'C would seem to make sense.
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« Reply #149 on: February 29, 2020, 11:17:30 AM »
Considering that a modified A4D-2 and the G.91 both were demonstrated to the US Army, that would be a fair replacement.  If you do an Italian adaptation of the one demonstrated, you will need dual wheel main gears with fairing at the front underside of the wing to cover the extra wheel.