Beyond The Sprues
Modelling => Completed GBs => Group and Themed Builds => 100th Anniversary of the RAAF GB => Topic started by: GTX_Admin on December 07, 2021, 02:28:07 AM
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(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/ca15/RAAFF-35A3_03.jpg)
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/ca15/f-35a_34.jpg)
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/ca15/f-35a_35.jpg)
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/ca15/f-35a_36.jpg)
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/ca15/RAAFF-35A3.jpg)
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In a way, add a "British RAF" roundel in anything to to the end of WWII, and a Kangaroo post-war in any aircraft, and you have a RAAF aircraft ;D
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(http://www.clavework-graphics.co.uk/aircraft/fantasy_2/F102_Lightning_Australia.jpg)
(http://www.clavework-graphics.co.uk/aircraft/fantasy_2/F128_Lightning_Australia.jpg)
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(http://www.clavework-graphics.co.uk/aircraft/fantasy_3/F208_Tornado_Australia.jpg)
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(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/20/08/7f/20087feb3a913b46e1ee88bcff061a12.jpg)
(http://www.clavework-graphics.co.uk/aircraft/fantasy_3/F291_F16E_RAAF.jpg)
(https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/upload/iblock/fff/ARDU.png)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/97/1b/72/971b72994844ab7d32810ea05cee0ca1.jpg)
(http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/upload/iblock/13e/f-16_38.jpg)
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(http://www.clavework-graphics.co.uk/aircraft/fantasy_5/F498_F15C_Australia.jpg)
(https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/upload/iblock/f6b/j4ijrfvlnku9ndtup6av9oo9zlt2ucu4/f-15_title_1.jpg)
(https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/upload/iblock/dbe/os37k6ij6jwyscsx72f3tg4byg29n9a9/f-15_title_2.jpg)
(https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/upload/iblock/0d0/f-15c_fanta_can.jpg)
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(https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/upload/iblock/f53/Mirage_A3-12_002.jpg)
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Got quite a few of these already on the shelf from years gone by.
Still, great to see these profiles again and some new ones
(http://www.modelblokez.org.au/bthpix/whatif/raaflightning.jpg)
RAAF Buccaneer ?
(http://www.modelblokez.org.au/bthpix/whatif/raafbucc.jpg)
Something not simply a rebadge job, Australian built Hurricane using the Pratt and Witney Engine, Hawker Willy Willy
(http://www.modelblokez.org.au/bthpix/whatif/willywilly5.jpg)
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Proposal in December 1940 for Australia to order about £500,000 worth of aircraft from Japan
This appeared in a RAAF historical newsletter and I have been desperately looking for public domain verification of this.
The proposal was made by Sir John Latham https://adb.anu.edu.au/biography/latham-sir-john-greig-7104, then Minister for Japan, to the Advisory War Council, with the aim of filling shortages / needs of the RAAF, as well as encouraging Japan to oppose Germany.
"Legislation was passed in 1940 to enable Latham to become Australia's first minister to Japan while still chief justice. He had a long-standing interest in Japan and was better informed about it than almost any of his contemporaries, but he did not reach Tokyo until the close of 1940 after Japan had concluded a pact of mutual assistance with the Axis powers, and his mission was accordingly constricted. He 'spoke with firmness and frankness' to successive Japanese foreign ministers on the 'hope for friendly relations and the resolution to resist attempts at Japanese domination'. In September 1941 he left Japan for consultations in Singapore, but fell ill and was back in Melbourne when the Pacific War began."
This is incredibly interesting to me, I have no doubt the recommendation was made, I just can't currently find a sharable reference to it. What is intriguing, is whether Japan would have been receptive to this had the recommendation been accepted in Australia.
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Proposal in December 1940 for Australia to order about £500,000 worth of aircraft from Japan
I know that it's really a captured bird but still. ;)
(https://s3-ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/awm-media/collection/P01933.003/screen/4122708.JPG)
(https://j-aircraft.com/captured/capturedfrom/raafzero/port.jpg)
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(http://www.clavework-graphics.co.uk/aircraft/fantasy_5/F413_Whirlwind_Australia.jpg)
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(http://www.clavework-graphics.co.uk/aircraft/fantasy_5/F437_EMB314_Australia.jpg)
(http://www.clavework-graphics.co.uk/aircraft/fantasy_7/F664_EMB314_Australia.jpg)
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...
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/97/1b/72/971b72994844ab7d32810ea05cee0ca1.jpg)
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That looks like the work of the Dutch bus driver named Peter van Stigt.
https://2-peter-vanstigt.pixels.com/ (https://2-peter-vanstigt.pixels.com/)
https://www.facebook.com/petervanstigt (https://www.facebook.com/petervanstigt)
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So I guess this is too far along to join ---- it only needs decals --- :))
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Mind you, it's already been done
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Mind you, it's already been done
([url]http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=10095.0;attach=31582;image[/url])
Nah, that's in Swedish Splinter, that is! ;)
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I was thinking of an F3 Tornado with Hindenburg tanks and extended fuselage for more fuel as an interceptor.
Or just go with a Tomcat.
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I have a F-14, a F-15 & a F-16 (in the False-One-True-Scale of 1/72) do do as alternate RAAF but they may not come out to play for this GB, I have other builds I need to do first, really ... Probably ... Maybe?
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Sadly, I will be a no show as well. The stash, model room, gear all getting packed up for an impending move next year.
A whole story there around formula's on void space needing to get filled. Where did it all come from :o :o :o :o :o :o
The thought bubble for the build was more about the RAAF ADG. Merging a Missile mount from a Chaparral onto either a LAV or a Long Wheel Base Landrover or similar. Or maybe, just rebuild/repaint the Chaparral vehicle
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RAAF never had a Draken or Viggen?
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Sadly, I will be a no show as well. The stash, model room, gear all getting packed up for an impending move next year.
A whole story there around formula's on void space needing to get filled. Where did it all come from :o :o :o :o :o :o
The thought bubble for the build was more about the RAAF ADG. Merging a Missile mount from a Chaparral onto either a LAV or a Long Wheel Base Landrover or similar. Or maybe, just rebuild/repaint the Chaparral vehicle
Since the Chaparral system consists of a pallet that fits in the back of the M548 tracked cargo carrier it might be a matter of taking the pallet and mounting it on the M270 MLRS chassis. From what I see in the DML/Dragon MLRS kit once you remove the rocket launcher parts you have a nice open area that might need some side rails but as it is in the box there is sufficient space to fit the Chapparral system on the pallet.
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I'm tempted to do a Royal Australian Marines F/A-18, an Australian Army Aviation Corps Mirage 2000D, and a RAN FAA F-14D
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I'm tempted to do a Royal Australian Marines F/A-18, an Australian Army Aviation Corps Mirage 2000D, and a RAN FAA F-14D
Ah, a "RAAF Never Was" scenario! ;D
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RAAF never had a Draken or Viggen?
Not in the real world...
Though in the whiffverse, both served with distinction:
(https://fullfatthings-keyaero.b-cdn.net/sites/keyaero/files/comment_forum/2019/06/29/draken03-jpg.250798.jpg)
(https://ww2aircraft.net/forum/attachments/viggen75sqn-jpg.650402/)
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The thought bubble for the build was more about the RAAF ADG. Merging a Missile mount from a Chaparral onto either a LAV or a Long Wheel Base Landrover or similar. Or maybe, just rebuild/repaint the Chaparral vehicle
Hmmm...maybe RAAF ADG MIM-72A/M48 Chaparral alongside M163 Vulcan Air Defense System (VADS)?
If you squint just right, these could look like ADF schemes:
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/90/0a/fb/900afb52d67ceefc94f6ceb95387ba21.jpg)
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5b/M163_%22Vulcan_Cannon%22_Hear_It%21.jpg)
Or possible go for the updated M163 with Stinger SAMs:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/F37UFL7o-6YbSjdFi_-lbhjM0TlNi2SEG1M7aO8_5pG2oVNA0K0_0tWzOTD4wTCn16NgKMpkYeiEkrcR8WoKF9hbSU8R)
I have known a few Adgies over the years and I am sure they would have loved these. Mind you, one would have potentially seen these go either with No.30 SQN given they operated the Bloodhound SAMS or even 16th Regiment, Royal Australian Artillery. That said, the whiffverse allows all sorts of things...
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Another idea flowing from above would be for No.30SQN to replace their Bloodhounds with something like the Boeing CIM-10 BOMARC or Nike Hercules or MIM-23 Hawk....
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Dare I point to...Great Australia (http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?action=unread) and the likes of:
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/Greater%20Australia/F-4RAAFARDU.jpg)
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/Greater%20Australia/MirageRAAFTimor1.jpg)
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/Greater%20Australia/F-14BARDU.jpg)
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/Greater%20Australia/OA-10CARDU.jpg)
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/Greater%20Australia/F-16RAAFRoulettes.jpg)
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RAAF Road Transportable ZELL Mirage anyone?
(https://s9752.pcdn.co/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/JETS.png)
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(https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/upload/iblock/756/f-16_new.jpg)
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(https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/upload/iblock/e75/z1gwczuq3msknblbgf5bplifj7z976dg/a-10_12.jpg)
(https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/upload/iblock/cce/4gym57qflejayspcmqm4pq3x1xm02i28/a-10_15.jpg)
(https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/upload/iblock/4aa/5m8uup7hx3a3peqdkn475mcdfzofhwfc/a-10_14.jpg)
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(https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/upload/iblock/f6b/j4ijrfvlnku9ndtup6av9oo9zlt2ucu4/f-15_title_1.jpg)
(https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/upload/iblock/dbe/os37k6ij6jwyscsx72f3tg4byg29n9a9/f-15_title_2.jpg)
Further to above:
(https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/upload/iblock/fa7/yu8of5w5847eb8obcm41zvp2dzlfgjyx/f-15_8.jpg)
(https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/upload/iblock/7c9/hg1lglvdwxm26wrly8kvgb1aaidxwfp6/F-15C_7.jpg)
(https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/upload/iblock/c20/hv7cynm9xg530bwjkyyj61unwvzec751/f-15_9.jpg)
(https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/upload/iblock/00e/1avgw7ul3h9e5nedt4a12ze8fux5z9bs/f-15_22.jpg)
(https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/upload/iblock/de8/bvezj1jmlv8sezj5jw5062fpiclnq6o3/f-15_16.jpg)
(https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/upload/iblock/dbb/54rkflah385hh6i6eihyohnenmaz6asc/f-15_26.jpg)
(https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/upload/iblock/b65/s6elesv6wl6iaqvpgmnjt2ngyrbqx5nl/f-15_24.jpg)
(https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/upload/iblock/e4c/syz8hvcz9mt8muiwskygbeovi89480n8/f-15_20.jpg)
(https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/upload/iblock/8eb/1synqair7f5bq0hf0d27sbnvocs62tc6/f-15_15.jpg)
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Dare I suggest anyone do a RAAF Hammerhead since we all know about the 'fake' US markings used to disguise the obvious RAAF platforms even though everyone in the know can spot RAAF Base Williamtown.
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSq2Mu650HiMJPdp69T6TnBhQjrdqy5Xj7Vg0TUag_NOFZ4dpCTVPmwO6Bdh-WhnSCSXO8&usqp=CAU)(http://theaviationgeekclub.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/Hammerhead.jpg)
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([url]http://www.clavework-graphics.co.uk/aircraft/fantasy_5/F437_EMB314_Australia.jpg[/url])
([url]http://www.clavework-graphics.co.uk/aircraft/fantasy_7/F664_EMB314_Australia.jpg[/url])
Further to:
(https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/upload/iblock/a0a/fsf385eq5yh3ml8e3f7lsf2hpfqk8o0r/F1.jpg)
(https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/upload/iblock/fec/67id59pppr6b7nsj8ld6k2i0ctwr42v0/4.jpg)
(https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/upload/iblock/71e/vimqm090dr0zdt3allw5l1d7ugnf0uok/Screen_210426_113912.jpg)
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Something Carl was kind enough to share:
https://twitter.com/ausairforce/status/1470910889599455232?s=27
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Lot's of real world inspiration here: https://images.defence.gov.au/assets/Home/Search?Query=%3Fq%3DAF2021&Type=HomepageAlbum&AlbumName=AF2021
Such as:
(https://images.defence.gov.au//fotoweb/cache/5002/defenceimagery/2021/S20213599/20211117raaf8185068_0025.t61a801f0.m2400.xj8rizhdAuSeNMyqP.jpg)
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Boeing are in the game:
(https://images.defence.gov.au//fotoweb/cache/5002/defenceimagery/2021/S20213574/BDA_LW_Woomera_Sept_21-116_Courtesy_Defence.t6172150b.m2400.xiZWQ46bZ_M0mSukb.jpg)
(https://images.defence.gov.au//fotoweb/cache/5002/defenceimagery/2021/S20213574/BDA_LW_Woomera_Sept_21-106.t6172150b.m2400.xf7wPdcs8rjKJRgFB.jpg)
CFBV
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Does this include the pre-curser, the RAFC ??
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(https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/upload/iblock/e75/z1gwczuq3msknblbgf5bplifj7z976dg/a-10_12.jpg)
(https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/upload/iblock/cce/4gym57qflejayspcmqm4pq3x1xm02i28/a-10_15.jpg)
(https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/upload/iblock/4aa/5m8uup7hx3a3peqdkn475mcdfzofhwfc/a-10_14.jpg)
WOW! LOVE THIS!
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Does this include the pre-curser, the RAFC ??
I will allow it.
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More inspiration:
(https://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/French%20Connection/RAAF%20Mid%20life%20grey%20camo_zps3ohlpjad.png)
(https://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/French%20Connection/RAAF%20ARDU_zpsfuliasqt.png)
The French Connection (http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=8820.0)
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For the Aussie A-10s... how do you say "Brrrrrt!" in Australian?
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In the Nevil Shute book 'In the Wet', Australian Air Force (and Canada's) operated the De Havilland Ceres ;)
Top image from the book
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For the Aussie A-10s... how do you say "Brrrrrt!" in Australian?
"Brrrrrrt....mate!"
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For the Aussie A-10s... how do you say "Brrrrrt!" in Australian?
"Brrrrrrt....mate!"
Sometimes "Brrrrrto....mate!" ;)
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couple pixels I did earlier this year ...
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Nice ... but love the Fanta Can Lightning :smiley:
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The Christmas Air Battle of 66 (http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=878.msg9274#msg9274)
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/e68/GTwiner/The_Christmas_Air_Battle_of_1966_-_F-8E_(Aust)_Crusader_profile.jpg)
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/e68/GTwiner/The_Christmas_Air_Battle_of_1966_-_RAAF_RF-8E_(Aust)_Crusader_profile.jpg)
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/e68/GTwiner/The_Christmas_Air_Battle_of_1966_-_Special_F-8E_(Aust)_Crusader_profile.jpg)
CFBVs
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The Empire Strikes Back! (http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=8718.msg158943#msg158943)
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Some more:
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/.highres/TyphoonretroRAAF_zps15c57a21.jpg)
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/.highres/F-8FRAAF3sqn_zps3djql9ab.png)
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/.highres/imagejpg14_zps4a5ec161.jpg)
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/.highres/imagejpg13_zps2f0f1b02.jpg)
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/.highres/FA-18ARAAF2OCU_zpsdb02fb6c.jpg)
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/.highres/FA-18ARAAFRoulettes_zps79b9da2b.jpg)
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/.highres/f-111RAAFRoulettes_zps0bd27273.jpg)
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/.highres/CA-153SqnRAAFItaly45_zps19ef9a0c.png)
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/.highres/CA-155SqnRAAFBougainville45_zpsad31711f.png)
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/.highres/cac-ca14a-xi-xii_zps46ecea32.jpg)
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Note that not everything has to be Whatif - Real World is welcome too:
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/.highres/Mottys-Photo_2011_08_06_9825-LR-1-0.jpg)
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(https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/.highres/imagejpg1_zpsf998bc7f.jpg)
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(https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/he-162/.highres/81_2.jpg)
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(https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/he-162/.highres/Victor1.jpg)
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/he-162/.highres/Victor2.jpg)
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/he-162/.highres/Victor3.jpg)
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(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51828488999_02c67994dc_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mXUy6V)
RAAF-P-61E-01 (https://flic.kr/p/2mXUy6V) by Carl Wimmi (https://www.flickr.com/photos/153210713@N02/), on Flickr
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(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51828887705_368521bdba_o.png) (https://flic.kr/p/2mXWACa)
RAAF-Washington-B.MK.I-04 (https://flic.kr/p/2mXWACa) by Carl Wimmi (https://www.flickr.com/photos/153210713@N02/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51827214507_7b3e736914_o.png) (https://flic.kr/p/2mXN2eV)
RAAF-Washington-B.MK.I-03 (https://flic.kr/p/2mXN2eV) by Carl Wimmi (https://www.flickr.com/photos/153210713@N02/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51828887245_3c0523a21f_o.png) (https://flic.kr/p/2mXWAue)
RAAF-Washington-K.MK.I-01 (https://flic.kr/p/2mXWAue) by Carl Wimmi (https://www.flickr.com/photos/153210713@N02/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51828887190_8d45c645f9_o.png) (https://flic.kr/p/2mXWAth)
RAAF-Washington-ASR.MK.I-02 (https://flic.kr/p/2mXWAth) by Carl Wimmi (https://www.flickr.com/photos/153210713@N02/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51827214357_62668e4f2a_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mXN2ck)
RAAF-Washington-MK.I (https://flic.kr/p/2mXN2ck) by Carl Wimmi (https://www.flickr.com/photos/153210713@N02/), on Flickr
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Royal Australian Air Force Gloster Meteor F.8, Serial No. A77-728, fitted with sixteen RP-3 60lb ground attack rockets during Korean War.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-7J8oTXYAESelV?format=jpg)
Delivered 21/02/51.
Served in Korea with 77 Sqn.
Heavy Landing Kimpo Korea 27/10/53.
Converted to Components.
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Speaking of RAAF Meteors:
(https://aerobaticteams.net/UserFiles/pictures/1885F9DD-B214-BE6B-158E-FB4121BB9313.jpg)
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Diorama idea perhaps:
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/14/8a/10/148a10aad1c3848b23b769f1147442de--butterworth-neptune.jpg)
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Hmmm...maybe the RAAF (and Australia) gets into the Ballistic Missile game and bases Blue Streak missiles in Northern Australia:
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/7d/d3/0c/7dd30cdd97903197b78b4af49b31bb7b.jpg)
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Or perhaps in an early incarnation of AUKUS, Australia/RAAF gets PGM-17A Thor IRBMs like the RAF/UK did:
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/e68/GTwiner/pgm-17a-2.jpg)
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Proposal in December 1940 for Australia to order about £500,000 worth of aircraft from Japan
This appeared in a RAAF historical newsletter and I have been desperately looking for public domain verification of this.
The proposal was made by Sir John Latham https://adb.anu.edu.au/biography/latham-sir-john-greig-7104, (https://adb.anu.edu.au/biography/latham-sir-john-greig-7104,) then Minister for Japan, to the Advisory War Council, with the aim of filling shortages / needs of the RAAF, as well as encouraging Japan to oppose Germany.
"Legislation was passed in 1940 to enable Latham to become Australia's first minister to Japan while still chief justice. He had a long-standing interest in Japan and was better informed about it than almost any of his contemporaries, but he did not reach Tokyo until the close of 1940 after Japan had concluded a pact of mutual assistance with the Axis powers, and his mission was accordingly constricted. He 'spoke with firmness and frankness' to successive Japanese foreign ministers on the 'hope for friendly relations and the resolution to resist attempts at Japanese domination'. In September 1941 he left Japan for consultations in Singapore, but fell ill and was back in Melbourne when the Pacific War began."
This is incredibly interesting to me, I have no doubt the recommendation was made, I just can't currently find a sharable reference to it. What is intriguing, is whether Japan would have been receptive to this had the recommendation been accepted in Australia.
Something more on this: https://www.aspistrategist.org.au/the-manchurian-crisis-and-the-genesis-of-australian-foreign-policy/ (https://www.aspistrategist.org.au/the-manchurian-crisis-and-the-genesis-of-australian-foreign-policy/)
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Potential ideas here: http://www.adf-serials.com.au/mighthavebeens.htm (http://www.adf-serials.com.au/mighthavebeens.htm)
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Proposal in December 1940 for Australia to order about £500,000 worth of aircraft from Japan
This appeared in a RAAF historical newsletter and I have been desperately looking for public domain verification of this.
The proposal was made by Sir John Latham [url]https://adb.anu.edu.au/biography/latham-sir-john-greig-7104,[/url] ([url]https://adb.anu.edu.au/biography/latham-sir-john-greig-7104,[/url]) then Minister for Japan, to the Advisory War Council, with the aim of filling shortages / needs of the RAAF, as well as encouraging Japan to oppose Germany.
"Legislation was passed in 1940 to enable Latham to become Australia's first minister to Japan while still chief justice. He had a long-standing interest in Japan and was better informed about it than almost any of his contemporaries, but he did not reach Tokyo until the close of 1940 after Japan had concluded a pact of mutual assistance with the Axis powers, and his mission was accordingly constricted. He 'spoke with firmness and frankness' to successive Japanese foreign ministers on the 'hope for friendly relations and the resolution to resist attempts at Japanese domination'. In September 1941 he left Japan for consultations in Singapore, but fell ill and was back in Melbourne when the Pacific War began."
This is incredibly interesting to me, I have no doubt the recommendation was made, I just can't currently find a sharable reference to it. What is intriguing, is whether Japan would have been receptive to this had the recommendation been accepted in Australia.
Something more on this: [url]https://www.aspistrategist.org.au/the-manchurian-crisis-and-the-genesis-of-australian-foreign-policy/[/url] ([url]https://www.aspistrategist.org.au/the-manchurian-crisis-and-the-genesis-of-australian-foreign-policy/[/url])
Also here:
http://www.adf-serials.com.au/research/Mitsubishi-RAAF.pdf (http://www.adf-serials.com.au/research/Mitsubishi-RAAF.pdf)
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We are selling up our house, that means much model packing.
Currently going through the "Model Archive Boxes", stuff that is old, built to 10 foot display standard, themes.. etc etc.
Some are sadly going to be trashed as this will be one move too many for some of these old model builds of 20-30 years vintage.
However topical for this GB uncovered this pair
(https://www.modelblokez.org.au/bthpix/whatif/Misc/AusWhiffers.JPG)
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:smiley: