Author Topic: Hawker Sea Eagle  (Read 47331 times)

Offline Claymore

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Hawker Sea Eagle
« on: June 20, 2025, 04:27:03 AM »
Oh Lord, am I actually going to build another aircraft? Looks like it!

I like entering the GBs but most don’t fit with my current AFV project list and so I thought a, relatively, quick 1/72 scale aircraft build might be a wheeze and not interfere too much with the heavy industries workshop.

Anyhoo, the Hawker Sea Eagle it is, or will be…
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Offline Kerick

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Re: Hawker Sea Eagle
« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2025, 07:06:17 AM »
I’ll be watching!

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Re: Hawker Sea Eagle
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2025, 10:36:48 AM »
"This is the Captain. We have a little problem with our entry sequence, so we may experience some slight turbulence and, ah, explode."

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Re: Hawker Sea Eagle
« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2025, 06:02:13 PM »
Don’t fall for the dark side.
Aircraft models can only lead to clean builds and stark panel lines  ;)

Still, knowing what you can do with an aircraft, still looking on to see it happen

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Re: Hawker Sea Eagle
« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2025, 12:51:53 AM »
Hi,
I'm anxiously awaiting to see more  :D

Offline Claymore

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Re: Hawker Sea Eagle
« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2025, 03:00:06 AM »


Makes me smile every time I see this…  ;D

Don’t fall for the dark side.
Aircraft models can only lead to clean builds and stark panel lines.

Never going to happen!  :o

Hi,
I'm anxiously awaiting to see more  :D

Hopefully, I won’t disappoint…  ;)
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Re: Hawker Sea Eagle
« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2025, 05:57:38 AM »
Don’t fall for the dark side.
Aircraft models can only lead to clean builds and stark panel lines  ...

Or be the first to model a diorama where an aircraft (festooned with external gear and crew belongings) has landed in thick, gooey mud  :smiley:
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Offline Claymore

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Re: Hawker Sea Eagle
« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2025, 03:32:50 PM »
Or be the first to model a diorama where an aircraft (festooned with external gear and crew belongings) has landed in thick, gooey mud  :smiley:

 ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Hawker Sea Eagle
« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2025, 08:30:00 AM »
Don’t fall for the dark side.
Aircraft models can only lead to clean builds and stark panel lines  ...

Or be the first to model a diorama where an aircraft (festooned with external gear and crew belongings) has landed in thick, gooey mud  :smiley:

I have seen photos of such  :-\

Offline Claymore

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Re: Hawker Sea Eagle
« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2025, 03:09:45 AM »
...and so it begins!

Step 1:  Take a Hawker Sea Hawk, cut off one wing and standby to convert it into a multi-engined, steam-turbine, strategic bomber!


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Re: Hawker Sea Eagle
« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2025, 03:18:27 AM »
Quote
...to convert it into a multi-engined, steam-turbine, strategic bomber!
wrote Claymore

This sounds...intriguing. You'll be modifying the scale?

Offline Claymore

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Re: Hawker Sea Eagle
« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2025, 04:12:35 AM »
This sounds...intriguing. You'll be modifying the scale?

No, just one very large wing and smoke stacks, yes, yes, there must be smoke stacks…



Just kidding, no strategic bomber, no steam turbines, and sadly, no smoke stacks…

More to follow.  :smiley:
« Last Edit: June 23, 2025, 04:54:57 AM by Claymore »
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Offline Old Wombat

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Re: Hawker Sea Eagle
« Reply #12 on: June 23, 2025, 06:01:02 PM »


I like that!  ;D

I think I'm going to steal it!  ;)
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Offline Claymore

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Re: Hawker Sea Eagle
« Reply #13 on: June 26, 2025, 06:09:08 AM »
Step 2: …no wings, not even wings with wings...



Step 3: ...with wings and original fuselage and tail fin...



Step 4: ...without wings...



Step 5: ...with WINGS...



Step 6: ...with extended fuselage, new tail and replaced ejector seat...


« Last Edit: June 26, 2025, 06:24:34 AM by Claymore »
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Re: Hawker Sea Eagle
« Reply #14 on: June 26, 2025, 07:39:34 AM »
Starting to look like a McDonnell F2H Banshee ???


Offline Claymore

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Re: Hawker Sea Eagle
« Reply #15 on: June 26, 2025, 03:18:09 PM »
Well, the Banshee is indeed the donor for the inner wings and tail fin but that’s about as far as it goes - the rest is Sea Hawk, Hornet and styrene.  Starting to look like the image I have in my head.  :smiley:

Original base aircraft kit (not my model):



The donor aircraft kit McDonnell F2H-3 Banshee (again, not my model):


« Last Edit: June 27, 2025, 12:46:54 AM by Claymore »
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Offline Kerick

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Re: Hawker Sea Eagle
« Reply #16 on: June 26, 2025, 11:01:28 PM »
That’s awesome! Love it!

Offline Old Wombat

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Re: Hawker Sea Eagle
« Reply #17 on: June 26, 2025, 11:16:19 PM »
The wings look like Hornet wings from just outboard of the engines.
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Offline Claymore

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Re: Hawker Sea Eagle
« Reply #18 on: June 27, 2025, 12:49:20 AM »
The wings look like Hornet wings from just outboard of the engines.

I see what you mean - they do indeed but are actually the Sea Hawks own outer wings as trimmed off in the Step 2 pic above.  It’s the tail planes that come from the Hornet F1 spares  :smiley:
« Last Edit: June 27, 2025, 12:51:28 AM by Claymore »
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Re: Hawker Sea Eagle
« Reply #19 on: June 27, 2025, 01:50:15 AM »
This will make people scratch their heads!

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Re: Hawker Sea Eagle
« Reply #20 on: June 27, 2025, 02:59:11 AM »
This is looking GOOD!
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Offline Claymore

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Re: Hawker Sea Eagle
« Reply #21 on: June 27, 2025, 03:20:12 AM »
Thanks guys!  :smiley:

The build is coming along nicely although I hadn't really appreciated how important it is to get things symmetrical. The left outer wing has been on and off more often than a certain professional lady's drawers!!  At one stage the wing looked like it was in mid fold...

The right tailplane is still a little off and will probably need a bit of gentle persuasion with a hammer blow or two.  There is also still a whole lot of work needed around the engine outlets/nozzles/exhausts/thrusty-hot-bits or whatever you aircraft types call them... Anyhoo, the current WIP pics should give you a better idea of where I am going.  Of course, the model is only part of the deal - the backstory will, hopefully, put everything into context and help bring the Sea Eagle to life...  :icon_meditation:












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Offline Old Wombat

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Re: Hawker Sea Eagle
« Reply #22 on: June 27, 2025, 09:25:00 AM »
Yes, apparently symmetry is, generally, considered important on these "erry-o'planyese" flying thingies. ::)


 ..... Unless your name is Blohm ... or Voss. :-\




Coming along nicely, by the way! :smiley:
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Offline Kerick

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Re: Hawker Sea Eagle
« Reply #23 on: June 27, 2025, 11:05:45 AM »
Paint will be fun to watch!

Offline Claymore

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Re: Hawker Sea Eagle
« Reply #24 on: June 27, 2025, 02:10:37 PM »
Yes, apparently symmetry is, generally, considered important on these "erry-o'planyese" flying thingies. ::)

 ..... Unless your name is Blohm ... or Voss. :-\

Coming along nicely, by the way! :smiley:

 ;D ;D ;D
Thanks mate!  :smiley:

Paint will be fun to watch!

Fleet Air Arm a la 1950s, I think… :smiley:
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Offline Claymore

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Re: Hawker Sea Eagle
« Reply #25 on: June 28, 2025, 01:03:13 AM »
Paint will be fun to watch!

Having looked into this a little further, I now see your point.  Should I go for Extra Dark Sea Grey over Sky of the late 1940s to mid/late 1950s or the Extra Dark Sea Grey over White of the late 1950 to early 1980s?

I’m leaning towards the older EDSG over Sky as I think it looks nicer - open to other’s views and suggestions though…
« Last Edit: June 28, 2025, 02:30:14 AM by Claymore »
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Offline Old Wombat

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Re: Hawker Sea Eagle
« Reply #26 on: June 28, 2025, 02:00:05 AM »
EDSG over Sky - it's just too pretty not to!



 8)
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Offline Claymore

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Re: Hawker Sea Eagle
« Reply #27 on: June 28, 2025, 02:32:31 AM »
EDSG over Sky - it's just too pretty not to! 8)


Agreed!  That is so cool!  :-*
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Offline Kerick

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Re: Hawker Sea Eagle
« Reply #28 on: June 28, 2025, 03:28:49 AM »
EDSG over Sky - it's just too pretty not to! 8)


Agreed!  That is so cool!  :-*

I’ve got to go along with this option. It really fits the concept.

Offline Claymore

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Re: Hawker Sea Eagle
« Reply #29 on: June 28, 2025, 04:53:00 AM »
EDSG over Sky - it's just too pretty not to! 8)

Agreed!  That is so cool!  :-*

I’ve got to go along with this option. It really fits the concept.

Decision made!  :smiley:
« Last Edit: June 28, 2025, 04:55:39 AM by Claymore »
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Offline The Rat

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Re: Hawker Sea Eagle
« Reply #30 on: June 28, 2025, 06:27:43 AM »
Great work so far!
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Re: Hawker Sea Eagle
« Reply #31 on: July 02, 2025, 04:32:08 PM »
Looking good, good call on the colour scheme too  :smiley:

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Re: Hawker Sea Eagle
« Reply #32 on: July 03, 2025, 02:06:26 PM »
Right colour scheme for the era, so a thirding or fouthing of the EDSG/Sky

Offline Claymore

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Re: Hawker Sea Eagle
« Reply #33 on: July 03, 2025, 08:18:14 PM »
Great work so far!

Looking good, good call on the colour scheme too  :smiley:

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Right colour scheme for the era, so a thirding or fouthing of the EDSG/Sky

 :smiley: :smiley:

We’re having new doors and a new staircase installed in the house, so access to my man-cave is somewhat curtailed at the moment.  Hopefully, will have an other update soon!
« Last Edit: July 04, 2025, 05:18:59 PM by Claymore »
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Offline Kerick

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Re: Hawker Sea Eagle
« Reply #34 on: July 04, 2025, 06:32:39 AM »
We are remodeling the kitchen, living room and bathroom right now. I have the living room painted and we just finished buying lights and stuff. When I’m not painting I’m too tired to build anything. I feel your pain.

Offline Claymore

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Re: Hawker Sea Eagle
« Reply #35 on: July 04, 2025, 05:19:58 PM »
We are remodeling the kitchen, living room and bathroom right now. I have the living room painted and we just finished buying lights and stuff. When I’m not painting I’m too tired to build anything. I feel your pain.


:smiley:

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Re: Hawker Sea Eagle
« Reply #36 on: July 05, 2025, 07:52:44 AM »
Looking soooo good  :smiley:

Offline Kerick

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Re: Hawker Sea Eagle
« Reply #37 on: July 05, 2025, 10:20:19 AM »
Looking soooo good  :smiley:

It’s really starting to come together. The new window shades match the new paint fantastically. The sofa and chairs look great across from each other. Can’t wait for the new flooring to be installed.

 ;)

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Re: Hawker Sea Eagle
« Reply #38 on: July 06, 2025, 10:51:23 AM »
I'm really loving this.

Offline Claymore

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Re: Hawker Sea Eagle
« Reply #39 on: July 06, 2025, 10:13:40 PM »
I'm really loving this.

Thanks mate!  :smiley:

Not really being an aircraft modeller, all of the little bits that I have, unwittingly, taken for granted are now coming back to bite me.  Aircraft weapons in 1/72 scale!

So, I am taking advantage of the weekend lull in house renovations to manufacture my own 1950s-era 1000lb and 500lb bombs and a swarm of RP-3 rockets...


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Re: Hawker Sea Eagle
« Reply #40 on: July 06, 2025, 11:38:51 PM »
 :smiley: 8)
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Offline Kerick

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Re: Hawker Sea Eagle
« Reply #41 on: July 07, 2025, 12:53:42 AM »
Now that will look great! Nice and crisp with no sink marks or ejector pin marks.

Offline Claymore

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Re: Hawker Sea Eagle
« Reply #42 on: July 07, 2025, 01:26:35 AM »
Unfortunately, the pre-desiged bombs available on the interwebby were either the wrong type (early GP rather than later MC) or beyond the capability of my Creality K1 printer -  I am so tempted to eventually get a resin printer.  Anyhoo, I designed my own from WW2 bomb manuals using a really simple online CAD program that supports introductory high schools - just about my level - one step beyond wax crayons!

I also tried designing and printing the RP-3 rockets but, sadly, my printer just wasn’t up to the task so back to the good ol’ and trusty scratch build techniques.  Not so bad but I need 16 of them and that means no less than 64 tail fins…

As C-in-C House Command says, ‘You like a challenge.’  Yes, yes I do but there is fine line between liking a challenge and slipping into insanity!  :o
« Last Edit: July 07, 2025, 03:56:21 PM by Claymore »
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Re: Hawker Sea Eagle
« Reply #43 on: July 07, 2025, 02:45:57 AM »
@Claymore - As a work around/alternative, you could always consider multiple shot rocket pods...  :smiley:
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Offline Claymore

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Re: Hawker Sea Eagle
« Reply #44 on: July 07, 2025, 05:23:35 AM »
@Claymore - As a work around/alternative, you could always consider multiple shot rocket pods...  :smiley:

My thoughts too but, alas, the 1950s FAA only had the RP-3.  The SNEB Type 155 did not enter service with the U.K. until the 60s and even then the RN did not authorise it for use as it was feared the high-power radars of the carrier might negatively interact with the pod’s firing mechanisms.  The FAA eventually replaced the RP-3 with the RP-2 (a multiple 2” rocket pod) but again not until the 1960s.
« Last Edit: July 07, 2025, 01:39:17 PM by Claymore »
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Re: Hawker Sea Eagle
« Reply #45 on: July 08, 2025, 01:42:38 AM »
Your Sea Eagle is really coming together! I must admit to surprise at just how well the new tail works ... very nice  :smiley:

... around the engine outlets/nozzles/exhausts/thrusty-hot-bits or whatever you aircraft types call them...

Ummm ... let's just stick to 'exhausts', shall we. I fear that "thrusty-hot-bits" may turn shallow minds away from all things wholesome  :o
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Offline Claymore

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Re: Hawker Sea Eagle
« Reply #46 on: July 08, 2025, 04:08:23 AM »
Quote from:  link=topic=11482.msg231457#msg231457 date=1751910158
Your Sea Eagle is really coming together! I must admit to surprise at just how well the new tail works ... very nice  :smiley:

Thanks you kindly!  :smiley:

Ummm ... let's just stick to 'exhausts', shall we. I fear that "thrusty-hot-bits" may turn shallow minds away from all things wholesome  :o

 ;D  ;D  ;D
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Offline Claymore

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Re: Hawker Sea Eagle
« Reply #47 on: July 27, 2025, 10:07:42 PM »
So, with a raft of overdue chores complete (new oak banister and balustrade, new oak doors, decking repaired and painted, and perimeter fence oiled with preserver), I have been allowed back into the man-cave.  The Sea Hawk is coming along and should be ready soon for its first coat of varnish so that I can apply some decals.  As you can see from the WIP pics, I am going with the Op Musketeer (Suez) look.  Much yet to do but I can definitely see the light at the end of the tunnel.  ;)












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Re: Hawker Sea Eagle
« Reply #48 on: July 27, 2025, 11:12:38 PM »
 :smiley: :smiley: 8) 8)
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Re: Hawker Sea Eagle
« Reply #49 on: July 29, 2025, 12:21:05 AM »
Looks luverly!
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Re: Hawker Sea Eagle
« Reply #50 on: July 29, 2025, 12:56:12 AM »
Definitely looking very good! I’ll keep an eye on this!

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Re: Hawker Sea Eagle
« Reply #51 on: July 29, 2025, 07:40:26 AM »
Oh the casual glancers will get some whiplash with this one.

This works !!  :smiley: :smiley:

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Re: Hawker Sea Eagle
« Reply #52 on: July 29, 2025, 10:26:28 AM »
Oh the casual glancers will get some whiplash with this one.

This works !!  :smiley: :smiley:
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Offline Claymore

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Re: Hawker Sea Eagle
« Reply #53 on: July 30, 2025, 05:37:09 AM »
Thanks guys, much appreciated.  :smiley:

Decals done and backstory written - just need some more clear coat and then the gamble that is painting and fitting the canopy…
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Re: Hawker Sea Eagle
« Reply #54 on: July 31, 2025, 07:10:57 AM »
 Very elegant-I could a see a version with extended wingtips as a high altitude recon platform.

Offline Claymore

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Re: Hawker Sea Eagle
« Reply #55 on: July 31, 2025, 03:47:28 PM »
Very elegant-I could a see a version with extended wingtips as a high altitude recon platform.

Thanks and what a great idea.  :smiley:
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Offline Claymore

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Re: Hawker Sea Eagle
« Reply #56 on: August 01, 2025, 10:45:31 PM »
Well, as Bat Cat would say...



I'm calling this one done!  :smiley:
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Offline Claymore

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Re: Hawker Sea Eagle
« Reply #57 on: August 01, 2025, 10:50:58 PM »
Hawker Sea Eagle

The Hawker Sea Eagle S.2 was a British, single-seat, jet, day, ground attack aircraft formerly of the Fleet Air Arm (FAA), the air branch of the Royal Navy (RN), built by Hawker Aircraft. The Sea Eagle’s design was heavily influenced by that of the Sea Hawk, the company's first jet aircraft and was intended as a heavy counterpart.

Following acceptance in the RN, the Sea Eagle proved to be a reliable and sturdy workhorse. When eventually replaced in RN service by the Supermarine Scimitar, the Royal Air Force (RAF) took over all of the remaining aircraft as the Hawker Eagle FGA.1. The last operational Eagles, operated by the RAF, were retired in 1972 with the introduction of the Harrier GR.1.

Design

The S.1 was powered by two 4,000lbf (18kN) thrust Metroplitan-Vickers Beryl MVB.2 turbojets, the same engines that had been developed for the Saunders-Roe SR.A/1 flying boat fighter. It had a maximum speed of 599mph (964km/h) at sea level and a range of 750mi (1,200km) on internal fuel. The S.1 was armed with four 20mm (.79in) Hispano Mk V cannons whilst the twin engine arrangement allowed for a 2000lbs (908kg) payload, internal bomb bay located under the fuselage mounted fuel tanks. Interestingly, the bomb bay’s dimensions were based on the somewhat anarchic requirement for the Sea Eagle to carry two Mk30 anti-submarine (AS) torpedoes.

A more refined ground attack variant was the S.2, which introduced the 4,200lbf (18.9kN) thrust Armstrong Siddeley Beryl MVB.3 turbojets and had its structure strengthened to allow it to carry a wider array of weaponry on its wing mounted hard points. The internal bomb by was retained although AS weapons were rarely carried.

Like its sister, the Sea Eagle adopted a fairly conventional design, being built with straight wings while a number of other contemporary aircraft, such as the F-86 Sabre, had adopted swept wings. The Sea Eagle was a reliable and elegant aeroplane, though its cautious design meant it would only be in production for a short period before being superseded by more advanced aircraft.

Operational History

The first production Sea Eagle S.2 flew in 1951 and entered service two years later with 813 Squadron, first based at Brawdy, then transferred to HMS Eagle - eventually 200 aircraft were built.

The Sea Eagle S.2 saw extensive service during the Suez Crisis, when joint Anglo-French forces invaded Egypt on 31 October 1956 in Operation Musketeer. Four Sea Eagle squadrons took part, two aboard the fleet carrier HMS Eagle and one each aboard the light fleet carriers HMS Albion and HMS Bulwark. Due to aircraft such as the Hunter lacking the range or clearance to deliver munitions, the British ground attack capability during the conflict comprised primarily of Sea Eagles supported by Sea Hawks and escorted by de Havilland Sea Venom fighters.

Sea Eagles launched many attacks upon Egyptian shore-based targets, often against massed anti-aircraft fire, resulting in several aircraft being severely damaged. The Suez Crisis was to be the last Sea Eagle combat operation with the Royal Navy, as new strike aircraft such as the de Havilland Sea Vixen and the Supermarine Scimitar were introduced after the conflict.

Specifications: (Hawker Sea Eagle S.2) circa 1956

General Characteristics
Crew: 1
Length: 42’ 8” (13.0m)
Wingspan: 45’ 10” (13.97m) 18’ 10” (5.76m) when folded.
Powerplant: 2 x Armstrong Siddeley Beryl MVB.3 turbojets, 4,200lbf (18.9kN) thrust each

Performance
Maximum Speed: 520mph (992km/h)
Range: 900mi (1440km)

Armament
Guns: 4 × 20mm (0.79in) Hispano Mk V cannons with 200rpg
Bomb bay:
-   2 x Mk 30 AS torpedoes 646lb (293kg) (or)
-   2 x US Mk 43 AS torpedoes 265lb (120kg) (or)
-   2 x 1000lb (454kg) MC bombs (or)
-   4 x 500lb (227kg) MC bombs
Hardpoints: Total of 10: 8 on outboard wings, 2 on inboard wings; holding up to 3600lbs (1590kg) of payload
   Air-to-Surface Missiles:
   -     16 x RP-3 rockets on double launchers, outboard hardpoints only
   Bombs: inboard hardpoints only
   -     2 x 1000lb (454kg) MC bombs (or)
   -     4 x 500lb (227kg) MC bombs
Other:  For ferry tasks, additional fuel tanks could be fitted in the bomb bay

RAF Service

Whilst the RAF had not been enamoured with either the Sea Hawk or the Sea Eagle when their designs were initially proposed, the Sea Eagle’s performance during the Suez Crisis drew considerable interest as well as pressure from the Army for a dedicated close support, ground attack aircraft. 

Although the Hawker Siddeley Kestrel was already in development and would later enter service in 1969 as the Harrier GR.1, a capability gap existed; a gap that the RN’s retired Sea Eagles could fill on a budget.  Becoming the Hawker Siddeley Eagle FGA.1, all remaining Sea Eagles were transferred to the RAF in 1960.

In 1962, the FGA.1 was brought up to FGA.2 standard with the introduction of 4,500lbf (20kN) thrust Armstrong Siddeley Beryl MVB.4 turbojets, a new layout of the wing-mounted hard points and the replacement of the four original 20mm Hispano cannons with two 30mm (1.18in) Aden cannons.

The last operational Eagles, operated by the RAF, were retired in 1972 with the introduction of the Harrier GR.1

Specifications: (Hawker Siddeley Eagle FGA.2) circa 1968

General Characteristics
Crew: 1
Length: 42’ 8” (13.0m)
Wingspan: 45’ 10” (13.97m) 18’ 10” (5.76m) when folded.
Powerplant: 2 x Armstrong Siddeley Beryl MVB.4 turbojets, 4,500lbf (20kN) thrust each

Performance
Maximum Speed: 630mph (1008km/h)
Range: 900mi (1440km)

Armament
Guns: 2 × 30mm (1.18in) Aden cannons with 200rpg
Bomb bay:
-   2 x 1000lb (454kg) GP bombs (or)
-   4 x 500lb (227kg) GP bombs (or)
-   2 x BL755 582lb (264kg) cluster bombs
Hardpoints: Total of 6: 4 on outboard wings, 2 on inboard wings; holding up to 3600lbs (1590kg) of payload
   Air-to-Surface Missiles: outboard hardpoints only
        -      4 × Matra rocket pods (each with 18 × SNEB 68mm (2.68in) rockets)
   Bombs: inboard hardpoints only
        -      2 x 1000lb (454kg) GP bombs (or)
   -      2 x BL755 582lb (264kg) cluster bombs
Other:  For ferry tasks, additional fuel tanks could be fitted in the bomb bay

The model depicts WV918, a Hawker Sea Eagle S.2 of 804 Squadron, FAA, operating from HMS Eagle during the Suez Crisis (Operation Musketeer) in 1956 and comprises parts from a MPM Sea Hawk, an Academy F2H-3 Banshee, some home-made rockets and bombs, plastic card and a whole lot of filler.

Note: The above backstory was referenced and adapted from Wikipedia.

















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Re: Hawker Sea Eagle
« Reply #58 on: August 02, 2025, 05:37:49 AM »
Would there be sufficient room in the bomb bay for the Green Cheese or Red Beard? 

Overall, this came out really nice and hopefully many second looks will be garnered on the display tables at future events.  :smiely:
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Re: Hawker Sea Eagle
« Reply #59 on: August 02, 2025, 05:53:46 AM »
Would there be sufficient room in the bomb bay for the Green Cheese or Red Beard? 

Overall, this came out really nice and hopefully many second looks will be garnered on the display tables at future events.  :smiely:

Thanks mate.

No, unfortunately the bomb bay is only 2.52m long and Red Beard was 3.66m long (too big for the Bombay) and 2000lbs (too heavy for the wing pylons) and didn’t enter service until 1961 (no good for the RN). Whilst I can’t find a length for the Green Cheese missile, I have found out that it was 3800lbs, so too heavy for the 2000lb weight limit of the bomb bay.
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« Reply #60 on: August 02, 2025, 09:57:16 AM »
Nice work ! The home made munitions finish it off a treat  :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

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« Reply #61 on: August 02, 2025, 03:04:35 PM »
Excellent build, mate! 8)

She looks believable & the backstory clinches it! :smiley:


Just don't go getting too enamoured of these wingy-fly-y things! I'm hanging out for more Claymore armour! ;)
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« Reply #62 on: August 02, 2025, 07:00:30 PM »
Nice work ! The home made munitions finish it off a treat  :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

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Thanks!  :smiley:

Excellent build, mate! 8)

She looks believable & the backstory clinches it! :smiley:


Thanks mate!  :smiley:

Just don't go getting too enamoured of these wingy-fly-y things! I'm hanging out for more Claymore armour! ;)

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« Reply #63 on: August 02, 2025, 11:12:49 PM »
This whiff looks fantastic! So very plausible!
I had to look up the Green Cheese missile. I couldn’t believe that was a real weapon with such a silly name! I thought you guys were joking around.

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« Reply #64 on: August 02, 2025, 11:58:17 PM »
This whiff looks fantastic! So very plausible!

Thanks!  :smiley:

I had to look up the Green Cheese missile. I couldn’t believe that was a real weapon with such a silly name! I thought you guys were joking around.


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« Reply #65 on: August 03, 2025, 02:30:06 AM »
Wonderful job - both your fantastic build and the fabulous backstory!  :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

...
I had to look up the Green Cheese missile. I couldn’t believe that was a real weapon with such a silly name! I thought you guys were joking around.

Ken: The British Ministry of Supply applied 'Rainbow Code' names to all military-related research and development projects. These codes were intended to random - both the colour and the noun assigned - to disguise the nature of the programme.

-- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainbow_Code

Some of the combos sounded pretty goofy (my favorite being the OTHR Orange Poodle) but that just helped with the disguise. Rainbow Code names also changed as projects progressed (eg: Blue Badger becoming Violet Mist). But, over time, implied meanings started to creep in ... which defeated the purpose of the code.

Once the MoS was shut down, the Rainbow Code system was replaced by an alpha-numeric system. Robin (robunos) has a thread on those alpha-numeric designations over on SPF:

-- https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/the-ab-123-project-designation-system.18814/
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« Reply #66 on: August 03, 2025, 06:53:08 AM »
Wonderful job - both your fantastic build and the fabulous backstory!  :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

Thank you!  :smiley:
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« Reply #67 on: August 04, 2025, 09:22:48 PM »
I’ve seen a couple of those number codes. That link definitely explains a lot.

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« Reply #68 on: August 05, 2025, 12:03:21 AM »
Orders heard and understood, Sir!   ;)

Sir? Me?  ???

I was an Able Seaman (Air Technical Aircraft)! I worked for a living!  ::) ... :-\ ... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #69 on: August 05, 2025, 05:55:28 AM »
I worked for a living!  ::) ... :-\ ... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Hee, hee, the old ones are still the old ones!  ;) ;D
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« Reply #70 on: August 26, 2025, 10:21:21 AM »
Golly, that is gorgeous!!
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« Reply #71 on: August 27, 2025, 01:51:06 AM »
Golly, that is gorgeous!!


Thanks mate, much appreciated.  :smiley:
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« Reply #72 on: September 28, 2025, 11:21:17 PM »
Is it just me, or does it seem like this GB has been running forever?

Finding myself between heavy armour builds and with time to spare, I decided to scratch the itch that was the feeling that the backstory behind my Sea Eagle build needed completion with the addition of the later RAF version of the aircraft.  So it was that last weekend, I next-day-delivered another batch of 1/72 donors from my favourite, cheap, 1/72 donor aircraft supplier - KingKit.  A very nice HobbyBoss Seahawk FGA.6, Acadamy FSH-3 Banshee and this little beauty (ordered for its weapons) duly arrived on Monday.



As an aside, this kit cost me a just over £10 and to my great surprise is a 1971 produced (1969 series) Airfix original.  The box and instruction were/are very faded, but I guess so would we all if we had been sitting in someone's stash for the last 54 years!!

Anyhoo, back to the build.  I'm not really one for making multiple copies of my AH models but in this case, it helped massively as I already had a finished master to help things along.  Razor saw at the ready and off I went. 





One week later and I present the Hawker Siddeley Eagle FGA.2 in the markings of 45 Squadron RAF, circa 1968.  I will add these images to my completed model entry.
















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« Reply #73 on: September 29, 2025, 12:10:49 AM »
So, would this later RAF version be referred to as simply the "Eagle"?  ???


Being ex-RAN FAA, I'm always a bit disturbed by the RAF (or RAAF) taking over naval aircraft & calling them their own but ...

In this instance, good build, mate!  :smiley:
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« Reply #74 on: September 29, 2025, 12:27:04 AM »
So, would this later RAF version be referred to as simply the "Eagle"?  ???


Being ex-RAN FAA, I'm always a bit disturbed by the RAF (or RAAF) taking over naval aircraft & calling them their own but ...

In this instance, good build, mate!  :smiley:

Thanks mate!

Yes, the original Hawker Sea Eagle S.2 became the Hawker Siddeley Eagle FGA.2 in RAF service.  :smiley:

The RAF have quite a bit of previous in using and abusing the FAA’s cast offs - the most successful being the F-4 Phantom and the Buccaneer.  ;)
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« Reply #75 on: September 29, 2025, 12:57:40 AM »
Is it just me, or does it seem like this GB has been running forever?


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« Reply #76 on: September 29, 2025, 01:38:14 AM »
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« Reply #77 on: September 29, 2025, 03:56:34 AM »
That is one of the best kit-bashes I have seen.  Nice paint job too! 
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« Reply #78 on: September 29, 2025, 04:06:49 AM »
That is one of the best kit-bashes I have seen.  Nice paint job too!

Many thanks mate, much appreciated.  :smiley:
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« Reply #79 on: September 29, 2025, 04:09:52 AM »
That is one of the best kit-bashes I have seen.  Nice paint job too!

Wot he said   :D

Love your HS Eagle FGA.2 and good score on the Harrier kit (its loadout is perfect for the RAF Eagle and its times).  :smiley:
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« Reply #80 on: September 29, 2025, 04:28:36 AM »
That is one of the best kit-bashes I have seen.  Nice paint job too!

Wot he said   :D

Love your HS Eagle FGA.2 and good score on the Harrier kit (its loadout is perfect for the RAF Eagle and its times).  :smiley:

Thanks muchly! 👍
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