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Re: 1/35 Wheeled M113
« Reply #50 on: October 03, 2021, 08:21:29 AM »
I was thinking of putting the whole M151 on the side... but that's a bit too much. I have several M60s and maybe some M249s "in stock" so maybe I can add one. There isn't enough room for .50 cal or even a Mk. 19 anywhere else.

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Re: 1/35 Wheeled M113
« Reply #51 on: October 03, 2021, 08:46:07 AM »
I was thinking of putting the whole M151 on the side... but that's a bit too  much. I have several M60s and maybe some M249s "in stock" so maybe I can add one. There isn't enough room for .50 cal or even a Mk. 19 anywhere else.
That was the same issue I discovered when I was working on the same kit.  That one spot on the top-left side is about large enough for a 7.62mm GPMG or 5.56mm SAW system if you can cobble together a feasible mount for the weapon and ammunition supply. 
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Re: 1/35 Wheeled M113
« Reply #52 on: October 03, 2021, 09:58:12 AM »
Looking good Frank!  Have you given any thought to maybe adding a GPMG or SAW on top of the ITOW turret?  What little space there is, the left side of the launcher assembly does have a small area that might work.   

I was thinking the same thing. Then the TOW sighting system could aim the MG.
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Re: 1/35 Wheeled M113
« Reply #53 on: October 04, 2021, 12:49:46 AM »
The Canadian LAV TUA and M113 TUA both have the 7.62mm GPMG  on the right side of their TOW launchers. I can't find any decent photos of the real vehicles showing the GPMG but here are some images from the Trumpeter kit and the Legend conversion set. The images below will show where the GPMG is attached and you could possibly do something similar to yours.

Trumpeter 1/35 Canadian LAV TUA kit showing the GPMG attached.



Legend 1/35 Canadian M113 TUA conversion set.



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Re: 1/35 Wheeled M113
« Reply #54 on: October 04, 2021, 02:53:02 AM »
@Kerick - don't give me ideas! I can just imagine a modernized Ontos with an M151 sighting system.

Ramba - thanks for those pictures; I think I'll add a weapon to the side of the TOW launcher.

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Re: 1/35 Wheeled M113
« Reply #55 on: October 04, 2021, 04:10:36 AM »
@Kerick - don't give me ideas! I can just imagine a modernized Ontos with an M151 sighting system.

Ramba - thanks for those pictures; I think I'll add a weapon to the side of the TOW launcher.

The trick would be boresiting those six recoilless rifles with the TOW sight. But this is whiffworld, leave it to the backstory!

Those TUA pics are great! Lots of reinforcement to the roof of the vehicle. Nice detail.

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Re: 1/35 Wheeled M113
« Reply #56 on: October 04, 2021, 05:43:29 AM »
The Canadian LAV TUA and M113 TUA both have the 7.62mm GPMG  on the right side of their TOW launchers...

Yup,  when the M113 TUA were retired, their Kvaener TOW turrets went to the LAV TUAs.

Here is a Dan Hay close up of the mount for the GPMG (sans weapon, to show the greeblies and gubbins).

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Re: 1/35 Wheeled M113 DONE
« Reply #57 on: October 06, 2021, 09:26:18 AM »
I think I'm done with this. It really doesn't look much like an M113.

None of the smaller M60 class MGs that I had looked great, so I went with the 0.50 cal from the M151 kit. The ammo box is from the Italeri M998 IED kit. I added a couple of plates (also from the M998 kit) to provide some protection while loading the TOW and MG ammo, although loading a .50 cal even in a lowered position would not be easy:


The smoke grenades are from another M151 kit that didn't get used in anything before now:



I found a plastic bit that looked like the GPMG mount that apophenia posted, but it's barely visible in the pictures:



The bag for the spent shell casings was made from Procreate 2 part epoxy. It's great stuff. I'm not sure that the bag would be big enough to hold all the casings, though:



Rear view:



Thanks for all the comments, and a big thanks to Jeff for sending me the Lav-25 kit and Bill who sent me a partial M113 kit years ago; most of the parts were used.

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Re: 1/35 Wheeled M113 DONE
« Reply #58 on: October 06, 2021, 10:48:44 AM »
Great job! Looks cool as a wheeled vehicle. The .50cal looks good too.

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Re: 1/35 Wheeled M113 DONE
« Reply #59 on: October 06, 2021, 11:16:19 AM »
Thanks! The ammo box is actually for the MK19 grenade launcher, but the box is roughly the same width (only much deeper) than the .50 cal ammo box.

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Re: 1/35 Wheeled M113 DONE
« Reply #60 on: October 06, 2021, 01:08:40 PM »
Wears wheels well and looks faster whether it is or not. :smiley:  Light realistic weathering too. :smiley:  Bang up job on dirt in tires. :smiley:

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Re: 1/35 Wheeled M113 DONE
« Reply #61 on: October 06, 2021, 04:45:33 PM »
Doesn't matter if it doesn't look like a M113, it looks great! 8)
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Re: 1/35 Wheeled M113 DONE
« Reply #62 on: October 06, 2021, 08:34:31 PM »
Echoing what's already been said; this is magnificent!  Well done.

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Re: 1/35 Wheeled M113 DONE
« Reply #63 on: October 06, 2021, 10:14:25 PM »
 :smiley: :smiley:  Cool concept very nicely done !!
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Re: 1/35 Wheeled M113 DONE
« Reply #64 on: October 07, 2021, 12:39:24 AM »
Great kit bash! I am getting Terrapin vibes from it :-) 

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Re: 1/35 Wheeled M113 DONE
« Reply #65 on: October 07, 2021, 01:36:35 AM »
Thanks guys - it was a fun build and I enjoyed all the comments and suggestions.

Gingie - a 1/35 Terrapin would be interesting, maybe with more a sensible engine placement (or a single engine).

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Re: 1/35 Wheeled M113 DONE
« Reply #66 on: October 07, 2021, 03:00:03 AM »
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Re: 1/35 Wheeled M113 DONE
« Reply #67 on: October 07, 2021, 04:32:09 AM »
<SNIP>Thanks for all the comments, and a big thanks to Jeff for sending me the Lav-25 kit and Bill who sent me a partial M113 kit years ago; most of the parts were used.
Always glad to help out.  Also you helped me by taking that old ESCI LAV TUA kit out of my stash where it had been gathering dust for almost forty years.  :smiley:
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Re: 1/35 Wheeled M113 DONE
« Reply #68 on: October 07, 2021, 07:16:35 AM »
Really like the result. Well done all through this

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Re: 1/35 Wheeled M113 DONE
« Reply #69 on: October 08, 2021, 03:01:23 AM »
I'm not into armour, but as someone who's bones have been rattled a few times in those, that looks great!
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Re: 1/35 Wheeled M113 DONE
« Reply #70 on: October 13, 2021, 11:27:57 AM »
Wow, awesome piece of work!  :smiley:
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