Author Topic: [U] Operation HIGH JUMP (1947)  (Read 18414 times)

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Re: [U] Operation HIGH JUMP (1947)
« Reply #25 on: June 07, 2017, 04:57:45 AM »
Endanflugrechner



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Re: [U] Operation HIGH JUMP (1947)
« Reply #26 on: June 07, 2017, 07:06:57 AM »
It's literally a "smart" weapons system...

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Re: [U] Operation HIGH JUMP (1947)
« Reply #27 on: June 08, 2017, 01:17:20 AM »
95% complete build.


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Re: [U] Operation HIGH JUMP (1947)
« Reply #28 on: June 08, 2017, 02:57:51 PM »
Awesome detail work there, mate! :)
"This is the Captain. We have a little problem with our engine sequence, so we may experience some slight turbulence and, ah, explode."

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Re: [U] Operation HIGH JUMP (1947)
« Reply #29 on: June 09, 2017, 09:07:04 AM »
It's literally a "smart" weapons system...

How do you think Byrd's people got all the information they did? It wasn't epiphanies from a bunch of Tech Intel types over a pile of parts. The black box was *mostly* co-operative, but HIPAA regs prevent total candor about the peculiarities of that source.


Awesome detail work there, mate! :)
This is coming along nicely.
As a long time student of the odious myth of the Nazi flying saucers, I heartily approve of this, and look forward to seeing the work progress.
This is coming right along, and great story! It's good to see this kit become something great, rather than sitting in my closet.

I love the "not my circus, not my monkeys" ("Nie mój cyrk, nie moje małpy") 

Thanks, gentlemen. I'm noodling the last few steps.

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Re: [U] Operation HIGH JUMP (1947)
« Reply #30 on: June 11, 2017, 03:24:01 AM »
What a treat to see one of these being built!

Will be sure to keep tuning in!

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Re: [U] Operation HIGH JUMP (1947)
« Reply #31 on: June 12, 2017, 02:46:49 AM »
Gibberish.                                                                                           Not Gibberish.

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Re: [U] Operation HIGH JUMP (1947)
« Reply #32 on: June 12, 2017, 03:38:37 AM »
Rote Linie = doppelwandige Schottwand
Flugdeck A
Raketenmagazin B
Raketenwerfer C
12,7 cm HV Geführte Raketen D
12,7 cm IR Geführte Raketen E
Flugbetrieb F
Waffenbetrieb G
Red line = double-walled bulkhead (both walls from UFO kit, back-to-back)
A Flight deck (HO scale Victorian house railings)
B Spring loaded rocket magazine deck (bulkhead door from UFO kit) (Works like this)
C Missile Launcher (Sagger Rails from a 1:48th scale Mi-24)
D 12.7 cm HV guided rockets (rocket rack from 1:48th ITC Grumman Duck)
E 12.7 cm IR guided rockets (AT rockets from 1:48th Mi-24 Hind kit)
F Flight Operations position (Pilot's seat from a 1:48th Lindberg P47 kit)
G Weapons Operations position (Pilot's seat from the UFO kit)

Raketenlademotor H
Raketengestell vertikale Unterstützung I
Raketengestell J
Besatzung Sauerstoff K
Luftkompressionssystem für Raketenwerfer L

H Missile loading motor (HO fireplug and trashcan)
I Missile rack vertical support (AIRFIX Great Western paddle wheel sprue)
J Missile racks (HO scale T-62 turret ring hull sections)
K Life support systems (48th scale Mi-24 Hind rocket pod halves)
L  Air compression system for missile launchers (scrap sprue)

Raketenbelastungsarm M
Untere Raketenablage horizontale Unterstützung  N
Raketen-Rack-Motor O
Atomwaffen P
Obere Raketenregal horizontale Unterstützung Q

M Missile loading arm (random scrap from parts box) N Lower Missile rack horizontal support (Great Western, again..)
O Missile rack loading motor (HO scale trash can)
P 15 cm Atomic gravity bombs (48th scale gravity bomb fins from an A-10 )
Q Upper Missile rack horizontal support (AIRFIX Great Western paddle wheel sprue)



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Re: [U] Operation HIGH JUMP (1947)
« Reply #33 on: June 15, 2017, 06:28:52 AM »
Those are some awesome details and I like how you let us know what the base parts were.

This is shaping up to be an epic project!

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Re: [U] Operation HIGH JUMP (1947)
« Reply #34 on: June 15, 2017, 10:32:23 PM »
Those are some awesome details and I like how you let us know what the base parts were.

This is shaping up to be an epic project!

Brian da Basher

+1 :)
"This is the Captain. We have a little problem with our engine sequence, so we may experience some slight turbulence and, ah, explode."

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Re: [U] Operation HIGH JUMP (1947)
« Reply #35 on: June 16, 2017, 02:09:15 AM »
Again, thank you gentlemen.

Brian - Pardon but I'd lost some formatting on the last series of photos. In addition to the German (to the left) and explanatory (to the right), I've ammended the text in my post above with (Bold and Parentheses) to better hightlight the source materials.



Since the genesis of this craft was a TV prop, with the weakness of an oversimplified interior to facilitate filming, I decided to *think like a prop designer*; given an advanced-technology Nazi saucer but constrained to WWII German design philosophies (10 lbs of highly functional crap packed into a 5 lb container*) while recycling available materials.

*- pay attention here, you Hollywood people. Given how cheap and small good cameras are, you could seed the interior of one of these claustrophobic craft with enough lenses to keep any director happy. Unless the director is just permanently unhappy.

But at least I didn't resort to the bathroom plunger.
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Re: [U] Operation HIGH JUMP (1947)
« Reply #36 on: June 16, 2017, 06:24:33 AM »
Quick-n-dirty walkthrough from the underside.



A HO Victorian house gratings.
B Bulkhead doors from UFO kit, repositioned to be 'racetrack' style magazines for those 12.7 cm missiles. And these guys think their U-shaped magazine for the AR15 is 'revolutionary'.
C Twin ATGM rails from Hind Mi-24
D 48th scale Grumman Duck rocket rack


E HO T-62 turret race pieces.
F Sprue reinforcements as bulkhead braces. To upper left, sprue as underside/bottom half of flight computer (probably should have beaten it up some more so as not to look so sprue-like)
G Drop down crew ladder from ... Victorian House grating. Make a note of this, factors into our later monkeying around with the hull.
H Great Western sprue, horizontal
I Great Western sprue, verticle
J Maintenance deck for missile arm motor, again the Victorian house grating.


K Lumpy looking missiles. Note that one of them (#3 of 4) has already been expended. Thanks, A10 kit with tons of ordnance. (was editing while you were posting, elmayerle ). Upper left (white) is the fuze box.
L  HO scale T62 turret races attached to Great Western sprue. White is HO fireplug, to the left is HO Victorian house grating.

I figured that since this was a saucer design, circles had something major to do with it's form and function (hence the paddle wheel sprues of smaller-than-turret diameter, in both the horizontal and vertical planes).

Peripheral inspiration
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Re: [U] Operation HIGH JUMP (1947)
« Reply #37 on: June 16, 2017, 06:28:03 AM »
Love the information, but what is "K"?

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Re: [U] Operation HIGH JUMP (1947)
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Re: [U] Operation HIGH JUMP (1947)
« Reply #39 on: September 23, 2017, 08:38:13 PM »
Very impressive !

Frederic

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Re: [U] Operation HIGH JUMP (1947)
« Reply #40 on: June 19, 2018, 09:32:15 PM »
I'll just leave this here, filed under 'L' for Ludicrous.
https://www.thelocal.de/20180619/toy-nazi-ufo-taken-off-market-after-criticism

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Re: [U] Operation HIGH JUMP (1947)
« Reply #41 on: June 20, 2018, 11:07:17 PM »
Oh, FFS! :-X All they have to do is change what is in the description & make it what it is ... Science Fiction!
"This is the Captain. We have a little problem with our engine sequence, so we may experience some slight turbulence and, ah, explode."

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Re: [U] Operation HIGH JUMP (1947)
« Reply #42 on: June 30, 2018, 03:22:44 AM »
^ Which is exactly what is happening at the moment and which is all that was asked of Revell. Nothing more.
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Re: [U] Operation HIGH JUMP (1947)
« Reply #43 on: July 01, 2018, 01:29:40 AM »
This thread would probably give the pearl clutchers an aneurism.

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Re: [U] Operation HIGH JUMP (1947)
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Re: [U] Operation HIGH JUMP (1947)
« Reply #45 on: May 31, 2019, 02:41:22 AM »
Stumbled upon this Haunebu 1939 prototype 1/72 build.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RKcFf_ewIo

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Re: [U] Operation HIGH JUMP (1947)
« Reply #47 on: May 26, 2020, 01:41:18 AM »
Alibi edit - six months later, I find this image I'd stashed for inspiration.


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The TR-3A Black Manta is the name of a surveillance aircraft of the United States Air Force, speculated to be developed under a black project. The only evidence for such an aircraft is based on several reported sightings of mysterious flying triangle aircraft over Antelope Valley, an area of desert in southern California. This stretch of desert draws people interested in potential "black project" aircraft, because it is close to several known military research and testing areas, such as Edwards Air Force Base in California, and United States Air Force Plant 42.



So where'd the DoD get all that technical inspiration? One popular theory is that these unmanned vehicles are side-slipping from 'somewhere else' in the multiverse.

Manta Ray UFO Over Costa Rica?
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKZ7HeU7w_Q

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/strange-weird/article/UFO-shaped-like-manta-ray-spotted-over-Costa-Rica-6493951.php

Reconstruction of possible extra-dimensional craft.



That gap in the nose is a weird optical illusion.

Note: flight display stand is a reconstructed 16th century painted lead glass with botanical images from the Voynich Manuscript. Writing on recovered wreckage closely matched that found in the same work.

Several kit details where wrong and/or misinterpreted; the idea that this was crewed or carried 'little grey/green aliens' being the foremost of the poppycock (flight controls were determined post-mortem to be 'wet' organic computers, as detailed on the Antarctic craft above), the flight orientation was actually inverted and the weapons bay (loaded with missiles very similar to those found in terrestrial arsenals) in 'revenge' rearward-to-flight dispersal racks.

The Kit

LINDBERG/TESTORS 1/48th scale (?)
https://www.scalemodelnews.com/2015/07/testors-148-scale-ufo-crash-scene.html
https://fantastic-plastic.com/roswell-ufo.html
https://modelingmadness.com/review/misc/scifi/bairnufo.htm

Dirt cheap on ebay - other suppliers have not included instructions but for our crowd, who needs instructions?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Testors-The-Roswell-UFO-1-48-Scale-555-NEW-MEXICO-1947-Model-Car-Mountain/381596369899?hash=item58d8ea83eb:g:AZgAAOSwJQdXB~fX

Seriously. Too easy. Note the crew compartment with six seats - ain't no way this is a 1/48th scale kit.


Neat hexagonal Anechoic skin.


Correcting the kit deficiencies.



This was supposed to be a cheap (it was), fast (meh - took too much time) and simple (until I overthought the fiddly bits) build.
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Re: [U] Operation HIGH JUMP (1947)
« Reply #48 on: May 26, 2020, 03:35:20 AM »
I made the same mistake as you.  Purchased two of those bagged kits with decals but no instructions.  At first I was thinking what could be a simple build turned in to me trying to make the top and bottom halves cooperate with each other.  To be honest, it might have been better to just try and use some Pringles' artificial crisps instead.  What was at first going to be a simple diversion turned in to a very unfortunate waste of money, time, and resources.  The warping of the two body halves was ugly, the resulting seam along the periphery of the thing after it was glued just made it worse.  A fail and now it and the other kit are awaiting conversion therapy pyro-therapy so that the next time around perhaps they can be something more useful. 
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Re: [U] Operation HIGH JUMP (1947)
« Reply #49 on: May 26, 2020, 03:38:25 AM »
I made the same mistake as you. 

I wouldn't call mine a 'mistake' - the fiddly bits I refer to are the cobbled-up weapons bay.  The upper and lower hulls on my kit went together just fine, with the aide of butterfly clips.