Author Topic: MiG-25 Foxbat and MiG-31 Foxhound (Read 32061 times)

ChernayaAkula · « **on:** January 27, 2012, 07:42:25 AM »

A thread for the BiG MiGs!

Alternative wing layouts for the Foxbat:

LemonJello · « **Reply #1 on:** January 27, 2012, 07:47:13 AM »

Forward swept with canards?

Maverick · « **Reply #2 on:** January 27, 2012, 07:57:18 AM »

Is it just me, or does the delta variants look a bit 'Arrowish'.

Regards,

John

ChernayaAkula · « **Reply #3 on:** January 27, 2012, 09:21:55 AM »

^^ Forward-swept? Hmmm, sounds interesting....

^ Not just you. That does indeed look Arrow-ish.

Two more views of the cranked delta with canards.
Side view:

Frontal view:

RussC · « **Reply #4 on:** January 27, 2012, 02:54:10 PM »

Quote from: Maverick on January 27, 2012, 07:57:18 AM

Is it just me, or does the delta variants look a bit 'Arrowish'.

Regards,

John

Yes it does. The requirements of the day and the aerodynamics of the day do tend to create similars like the F-108 Rapier, Arrow...etc.

Maverick · « **Reply #5 on:** January 27, 2012, 08:44:11 PM »

Love the front-on view Moritz. Definitely not something you see every day.

Regards,

John

taiidantomcat · « **Reply #6 on:** January 27, 2012, 10:09:49 PM »

Quote from: Maverick on January 27, 2012, 08:44:11 PM

Love the front-on view Moritz. Definitely not something you see every day.

Regards,

John

Agreed that view places it instantly in the "must build" category

tsrjoe · « **Reply #7 on:** January 28, 2012, 10:05:02 PM »

a little query for anyone with decent references covering the two seat MiG.25U trainer ... can anyone confirm what wing this version carried? ie. straight leading edge with cylindrical tip pods or 41/41deg kinked with balance weighted tip pods? another question is short exhausts or long and cylindrical brake chute housing or faired ?

im half way through building the Condor kit of the U, and realised the side elevation in Piotr Butowski's monograph on the MiG.25/31, shows the 'Foxbat C' as a variant of the reconaissance type ? abiet with long exhausts, faired chute and cylindrical tip pods

any help would very appreciated

cheers, Joe

Alvis 3.1 · « **Reply #8 on:** January 29, 2012, 12:15:11 AM »

Cool! Where's a little Clint Eastwood when you need one?

Top two look a lot "Firefox" like to me.

Alvis 3.1

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #9 on:** January 29, 2012, 03:56:42 AM »

Quote from: tsrjoe on January 28, 2012, 10:05:02 PM

a little query for anyone with decent references covering the two seat MiG.25U trainer ... can anyone confirm what wing this version carried? ie. straight leading edge with cylindrical tip pods or 41/41deg kinked with balance weighted tip pods? another question is short exhausts or long and cylindrical brake chute housing or faired ?

im half way through building the Condor kit of the U, and realised the side elevation in Piotr Butowski's monograph on the MiG.25/31, shows the 'Foxbat C' as a variant of the reconaissance type ? abiet with long exhausts, faired chute and cylindrical tip pods

any help would very appreciated

cheers, Joe

Joe,

My sources indicate that the MiG-25 trainers (there are actually multiple versions - the main two being the MiG-25PU and the MiG-25RU (separate for both Interceptor and Recon)) were all based upon the MiG-25P Interceptor with cranked wing leading edges and short engine nozzles.

regards,

Greg

tsrjoe · « **Reply #10 on:** January 29, 2012, 08:33:02 AM »

Hiyas Greg, many thanks for the information, just what im looking for

i'll modify the model accordingly

cheers, Joe

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #11 on:** January 29, 2012, 11:12:15 AM »

Glad to beef service Joe. Is the MiG-25 going to be Finnish by chance?

elmayerle · « **Reply #12 on:** January 29, 2012, 12:31:14 PM »

Quote from: GTX_Admin on January 29, 2012, 11:12:15 AM

Glad to beef service Joe. Is the MiG-25 going to be Finnish by chance?

Why not? It'd fit perfectly with the other aircraft of their Space Laboratory.

tsrjoe · « **Reply #13 on:** January 30, 2012, 01:24:19 AM »

hehe, good guess, yip doing it as a Finnish civilian example as per johns artwork, predictable i know

the kit has the P type wing so ill just leave alone as is (does the trainer version have the bulged tips or the later cylindrical ones, or either or?)

cheers, Joe

Jeffry Fontaine · « **Reply #14 on:** February 02, 2012, 03:48:52 AM »

Once upon a time, back in the days before the internet I recall seeing a drawing or image of a MiG-25 fitted with a very large fuel tank under the fuselage. It was a very large fuel tank, something much larger than what you would normally expect on any Russian/Soviet aircraft at the time.

Would be nice to know what purpose that MiG-25 was to serve with such a large tank attached to it.

ChernayaAkula · « **Reply #15 on:** February 02, 2012, 04:04:19 AM »

Quote from: Jeffry Fontaine on February 02, 2012, 03:48:52 AM

<...> I recall seeing a drawing or image of a MiG-25 fitted with a very large fuel tank under the fuselage. <...>

Like this one?

In the drawing it's mounted on a recon Foxbat prototype, but both the 1/72 ICM and Condor MiG-25PD fighter Foxbats also have it.
It's called PTB-5300. The figure denotes the volume in litres! That's around 30% of the Foxbat's internal fuel. A thread on flugzeugforum.de says they were used on the -PD, recon and bomber Foxbats.

Jeffry Fontaine · « **Reply #16 on:** February 02, 2012, 04:27:27 AM »

Quote from: ChernayaAkula on February 02, 2012, 04:04:19 AM

Quote from: Jeffry Fontaine on February 02, 2012, 03:48:52 AM
<...> I recall seeing a drawing or image of a MiG-25 fitted with a very large fuel tank under the fuselage. <...>

Like this one?

In the drawing it's mounted on a recon Foxbat prototype, but both the 1/72 ICM and Condor MiG-25PD fighter Foxbats also have it.
It's called PTB-5300. The figure denotes the volume in litres! That's around 30% of the Foxbat's internal fuel. A thread on flugzeugforum.de says they were used on the -PD, recon and bomber Foxbats.

Thanks Moritz!

The image you have shared is one that is new to me. The image that I recall was from a different angle as in being viewed from the underside of the aircraft. That fuel tank certainly looks "pronounced" from any viewing angle ;^)

kitnut617 · « **Reply #17 on:** February 02, 2012, 07:28:43 AM »

Quote from: Maverick on January 27, 2012, 07:57:18 AM

Is it just me, or does the delta variants look a bit 'Arrowish'.

Regards,

John

For my Super Arrow, I used a Mig 31 fuselage with the Arrow wings

apophenia · « **Reply #18 on:** February 03, 2012, 06:05:27 AM »

Quote from: kitnut617 on February 02, 2012, 07:28:43 AM

For my Super Arrow, I used a Mig 31 fuselage with the Arrow wings

Excellent concept!

RussC · « **Reply #19 on:** February 03, 2012, 08:22:41 PM »

Quote from: kitnut617 on February 02, 2012, 07:28:43 AM

Quote from: Maverick on January 27, 2012, 07:57:18 AM
Is it just me, or does the delta variants look a bit 'Arrowish'.

Regards,

John

For my Super Arrow, I used a Mig 31 fuselage with the Arrow wings

Nice idea! and yes, they both had twin bogie main gear, didn't they?

Daryl J. · « **Reply #20 on:** October 13, 2012, 02:33:23 PM »

The MiG-25 has always looked like a Brute to me and I like it.

But some day, I'd love to put a plug in behind the cockpit to extend its "neck" a bit as some pre-production prototype or a limited production variant.

FYI, Victor Belenko, of MiG-25 defection fame drove thru Eastern Montana (where I'm from originally)during the dead of winter and said it was worse than Siberia. It's in his book.

finsrin · « **Reply #21 on:** October 13, 2012, 02:55:01 PM »

Oh Yea.... Heck of a book/story.
Insights into things broken in 1970s USSR.
Recommended...............

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #22 on:** October 14, 2012, 02:51:02 AM »

Quote from: Daryl J. on October 13, 2012, 02:33:23 PM

But some day, I'd love to put a plug in behind the cockpit to extend its "neck" a bit as some pre-production prototype or a limited production variant.

Maybe a bit like the MiG-25 in "MiG - A Canadian Success Story!". These were kind of an amalgamation of the RW MiG-25 and MiG-31 with a stretched fuselage 'neck':

Daryl J. · « **Reply #23 on:** October 14, 2012, 03:32:17 AM »

That's it save for my idea being single seated and Soviet. Nice job!

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #24 on:** January 19, 2013, 05:17:41 AM »

Has anyone every produced a model or a conversion for the Recon versions or trainer versions of the MiG-25? Preferably in 1/48?


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Author Topic: MiG-25 Foxbat and MiG-31 Foxhound (Read 32061 times)