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Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
« on: April 01, 2014, 10:56:29 AM »
It is already April 1st on this side of the planet, so here are Lightning electronic ears...:

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Re: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2014, 10:58:31 AM »
and Lightning visual eyes, old way:

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Re: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2014, 11:03:51 AM »
I like these! Could use some in a U-2 layout...  ;)
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Re: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2014, 12:08:02 PM »
Thanks!
And here are the Bell Mustacuda (Mustang/Airacuda half-breeds for reco):

to be transformed in electronic spies too...

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Re: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2014, 12:15:12 PM »
And here the electronic Mustacudnic(s):

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Re: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2014, 12:25:16 AM »
and Lightning visual eyes, old way:
The last one seemed to have no engine (in fact I had forgotten it...) but this may be a rocket plane, with a tiny exhaust pipe:

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Re: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2014, 12:33:46 AM »
Adding the missing engine, I got new Lightning spies:

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Re: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2014, 01:01:50 AM »
I used aso the Lightning reco pods on Mustangs:

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Re: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
« Reply #8 on: April 02, 2014, 06:22:46 AM »
You are a twisted man Tophe!  I love the Mustacuda  :-*
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Re: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2014, 08:29:36 AM »
The last one seemed to have no engine (in fact I had forgotten it...)

You know an aircraft designer can make himself really unpopular with pilots by doing things like that..... ;)

Love these: the glass recce pods remind me of the EXINT "people pods" proposed for the Harrier and the parachutist pods devised for the Stuka.

How about a "U-38" (just for Kit), with extended wings and outer tailplanes, a pressure cabin and nose cameras?
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Re: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2014, 11:39:36 AM »
You know an aircraft designer can make himself really unpopular with pilots by doing things like that..... ;)
In the World outside (of my brains), the marketing dpt would have waken up the designer, long before the airplane is built and flown...

How about a "U-38" (just for Kit), with extended wings and outer tailplanes, a pressure cabin and nose cameras?
The U-38??! Do you mean the top secret W-38K secretly used as U-38?? I am not allowed to draw it: it is still top secret!:

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Re: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2014, 04:31:16 PM »
I love that last one. :)
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Re: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
« Reply #12 on: April 02, 2014, 11:35:25 PM »
How about a "U-38" (just for Kit), with extended wings and outer tailplanes, a pressure cabin and nose cameras?
The U-38??! Do you mean the top secret W-38K secretly used as U-38?? I am not allowed to draw it: it is still top secret!:

Oh YES!

Now that I like, a LOT even! And it's pretty buildable too, AND I have a few P-38s in The Loft as well.  :)
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Re: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
« Reply #13 on: April 03, 2014, 01:10:49 AM »
Thanks! And good luck for building it (I'd be glad to vote for your one...).

And here is the missing link between electronic Mustangs and Lightnings: the EP-82 Twin-Mustonic:

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Re: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
« Reply #14 on: April 03, 2014, 01:48:02 AM »
How about a "U-38" (just for Kit), with extended wings and outer tailplanes, a pressure cabin and nose cameras?
The U-38??! Do you mean the top secret W-38K secretly used as U-38?? I am not allowed to draw it: it is still top secret!:

Oh YES!

Now that I like, a LOT even! And it's pretty buildable too, AND I have a few P-38s in The Loft as well.  :)

it is beautiful indeed! if you give it a shape (in 3D) I'd vote for it too


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Re: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
« Reply #15 on: April 03, 2014, 02:10:50 AM »
Nice one Tophe: you nailed exactly what I was seeing in my head with the W-38K.  :) :) :)


How about a "U-38" (just for Kit), with extended wings and outer tailplanes, a pressure cabin and nose cameras?
The U-38??! Do you mean the top secret W-38K secretly used as U-38?? I am not allowed to draw it: it is still top secret!:

Oh YES!

Now that I like, a LOT even! And it's pretty buildable too, AND I have a few P-38s in The Loft as well.  :)

Thought you might..... ;)

It's even from the right company: you could retcon the back story to have Lockheed getting the U-2 job on the basis of their work on the W-38K.
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Re: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
« Reply #16 on: April 03, 2014, 11:01:59 AM »
Thanks again for the idea (and comments) about the W-38K/U-38! ;)

And here is the missing link between electronic Mustangs and Lightnings: the EP-82 Twin-Mustonic:
I have forgotten the other missing link: the reco Twin-Lightnings:

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Re: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
« Reply #17 on: April 03, 2014, 11:36:20 AM »
Of course, a reco plane is not a fighter and does not require the power of 2 engines. This provides us with asymmetric derivatives:

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Re: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
« Reply #18 on: April 04, 2014, 01:28:11 PM »
Thanks to raafif revealing the CIA-38 at http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=4248.0
here are the CIA-38, CIA-3838, CIA-3839:

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Re: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
« Reply #19 on: April 04, 2014, 10:59:09 PM »
Thanks to raafif revealing the CIA-38 at http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=4248.0
At the same adress, The Big Gimper presented another inspiring marvel:

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Re: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
« Reply #20 on: April 05, 2014, 02:25:25 AM »
Related Mustangs:

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Re: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
« Reply #21 on: April 05, 2014, 04:02:39 AM »
Me likey!
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Re: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
« Reply #22 on: April 05, 2014, 09:54:21 AM »
Thanks!
And here is a related Half-Twin-Mustang:


And Mustangs with a Rear Observation Post:

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Re: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
« Reply #23 on: April 05, 2014, 10:06:37 AM »
And here is a related Half-Twin-Mustang:
And Mustangs with a Rear Observation Post:
Both ways are mixed on the RP-82:

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Re: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
« Reply #24 on: April 05, 2014, 10:49:26 AM »
The RP-51D (first) Twin-Mustang was very different from the RP-82: half-bubble tandem-wing, twin-engine with double rear post...

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Re: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
« Reply #25 on: April 06, 2014, 02:04:36 AM »
The RP-82B and C were more classical than the standard RP-82 (renamed RP-82A):

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Re: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
« Reply #26 on: April 06, 2014, 02:36:58 PM »
Human hostilities are peanuts compared to...
Ahem, these are the (secret) reco planes installed at Roswell AFB, 1944, inspecting the "true" flying saucers passing over:

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Re: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
« Reply #27 on: April 06, 2014, 10:58:03 PM »
Of course, there was not a single USAAF reco-plane in Roswell. All the last ones were different and asymmetric, like the alien flying saucers (the designers hoped to come near without destruction - the result is still secret...).

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Re: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
« Reply #28 on: April 06, 2014, 11:43:55 PM »
The "flying saucer" ones are whacky!  ;D

How about a development of the RP-82C: a pusher prop on the cockpit pod, making a triple-engined aircraft. Cockpit I'm not sure whether a P-51-sytle cockpit (with a big nose for cameras, a radar or other armament) or an Ar 234-sytle streamlined cockpit.
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Re: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
« Reply #29 on: April 07, 2014, 01:10:06 AM »
Here are the XRP-82D & 82E, delivered as soon as ordered! (and cheap: 1.99 billion $ each prototype)...

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Re: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
« Reply #30 on: April 07, 2014, 10:38:00 AM »
Way cool!  :)  Still undecided on the cockpit issue: they both look great!  8)
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Re: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
« Reply #31 on: April 08, 2014, 12:18:00 PM »
Here are the XRP-82D & 82E, delivered as soon as ordered! (and cheap: 1.99 billion $ each prototype)...
Poor customer, liking both designs but unable to afford both... North American provides the solution, fortunately, the Quadri-Mustang XRP-82F (only $billion 2.99!)

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Re: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
« Reply #32 on: April 08, 2014, 09:39:23 PM »
 ;D Funeeeee!
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Re: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
« Reply #33 on: April 10, 2014, 01:24:27 AM »
Thanks!

Back to Lightnings, here are ones with just forward observation:

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Re: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
« Reply #34 on: April 11, 2014, 01:49:47 AM »
And ones with backward observation:

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Re: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
« Reply #35 on: April 15, 2014, 09:48:06 AM »
An observer does not need big engines with coolers nor a tail with maneuvrability, just: observation posts

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Re: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
« Reply #36 on: April 26, 2014, 12:31:37 AM »
Triple and Double Droop Snoots are good platforms for observation:

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Re: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
« Reply #37 on: April 26, 2014, 01:18:06 AM »
I do like one and three, probably one has the edge for me.  Good work.

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Re: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
« Reply #38 on: April 26, 2014, 09:42:25 PM »
Thanks!
And here three-engined versions:

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Re: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
« Reply #39 on: April 26, 2014, 10:20:27 PM »
 :)