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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #25 on: June 16, 2012, 06:22:13 AM »
Accurate Armour do a 1/35 T-44 kit - see here

I have one that I want to do as part of a diorama.  The idea is for WWIII in the late'40s/early '50s (maybe even as an outgrowth of Korea) with the tank displayed in a Berlin setting against some sort of allied tank ( any suggestions?)


Thanks for the T-44 info. :)

Maybe have it face off an M46? Or a Centurion?
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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #26 on: June 16, 2012, 06:30:14 AM »
They were options but I was tending towards something more exotic/odder...just don't know what yet.  Maybe an updated E-100 or Conqueror tank (bit early I know) or Tortoise Superheavy Tank or Caernarvon tank...
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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #28 on: June 27, 2012, 05:23:47 PM »
I have a question: how would stand Object 279 fuselage as a mine/IED-proof vehicle in modern, Afghanistan-like environment? For me it looks pretty thought for withstanding explosion underneath it and saving crew. Only issue may be complex tracks system.

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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #29 on: June 28, 2012, 01:06:46 AM »
I have a question: how would stand Object 279 fuselage as a mine/IED-proof vehicle in modern, Afghanistan-like environment? For me it looks pretty thought for withstanding explosion underneath it and saving crew. Only issue may be complex tracks system.

A copper shaped charge would probably penetrate into the tank if it used 1950s steel; modern metals and ceramics would be an improvement. The hull shape could deflect much of a blast from directly below or from the side. The tracks may help by absorbing some of the blast (and hurt by producing lots of steel shrapnel)  but the tank would probably be immobilized.

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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #30 on: June 28, 2012, 09:18:55 AM »
I have one that I want to do as part of a diorama.  The idea is for WWIII in the late'40s/early '50s (maybe even as an outgrowth of Korea) with the tank displayed in a Berlin setting against some sort of allied tank ( any suggestions?)

Iíve had some ideas before about something similar along the lines of the ďUnthinkable WarĒ breaking out between the western Allies with de-Nazified Germany and the Soviet Union allied with Japan in mid 1945. Personally I think the Soviets would be pounded but it would take a few years. But for a diorama:

British Tank: Prototype Centurion with the 20mm Polsten would look good also an upgraded Comet tank with plates of sloped armour welded to the hull front and mantlet? Plus of course the Tortise and Conqueror. To make the later look more in place for the 1940s you could replace the 120mm with the 20 Pounder and the commanderís mini turret with the cupola from a Centurion.

British Infantry: British WWII infantry armed with EM-2 7mm rifles or if you want to be super 1948ish accurate some kind of magazine feed wooden stock rifle (canít remember what it was called), the EM-1 Korsac (7.92mm) or if they are allied with the Germans one of their 7.92x33mm assault rifles. You could even jazz them up with some kind of ex German camouflage smocks.

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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #31 on: June 30, 2012, 04:22:42 AM »

British Tank: Prototype Centurion with the 20mm Polsten would look good also an upgraded Comet tank with plates of sloped armour welded to the hull front and mantlet?

British Infantry: British WWII infantry armed with EM-2 7mm rifles or if you want to be super 1948ish accurate some kind of magazine feed wooden stock rifle (canít remember what it was called), the EM-1 Korsac (7.92mm) or if they are allied with the Germans one of their 7.92x33mm assault rifles. You could even jazz them up with some kind of ex German camouflage smocks.

I'm liking your thinking. :)
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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #32 on: July 03, 2012, 08:59:47 AM »
I believe it's called Object 115.

Looks like a modernised T-28 idea....... again needs a 85mm or 95mm gun IMO.  >:D

And it could use more of a slope for the glacis armour......
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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #33 on: August 14, 2012, 02:44:06 AM »
New Soviet Russian Tank ;)Article


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« Reply #34 on: August 14, 2012, 07:02:48 AM »
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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #35 on: October 19, 2012, 10:36:36 AM »
Tank-EX, Indian development by combining Arjun turret with T-72 hull.

I still kinda feel that it was a pretty good idea for India, but oh well......
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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #36 on: October 19, 2012, 04:25:13 PM »
A few interesting soviet thingies from my collection .....


The "Koalitcia-SV" 2S19 152x2 SPG





WZT-SU Armoured Recovery Vehicle




ZSU23 "Junker"


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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #37 on: October 20, 2012, 01:14:16 AM »
Tank-EX, Indian development by combining Arjun turret with T-72 hull.

I still kinda feel that it was a pretty good idea for India, but oh well......

It looks top-heavy with that massive turret. Now I'm thinking of some samosas and pakoras and a cold Kingfisher for lunch...

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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #38 on: October 20, 2012, 02:56:26 AM »
I have long liked the look of the TOS-1:



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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #39 on: January 15, 2013, 02:31:42 AM »
Random idea:

I seem to recall that in the early days of their existence, there was a chance that Israel would be backed by the USSR rather then the west.  Therefore, what if this happened and every kibbutz had their own T-34?

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« Reply #40 on: January 15, 2013, 05:51:23 AM »
Random idea:
I seem to recall that in the early days of their existence, there was a chance that Israel would be backed by the USSR rather then the west.  Therefore, what if this happened and every kibbutz had their own T-34?

thanks to Egypt & Syria, they pretty much do now ;)

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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #41 on: January 15, 2013, 05:48:33 PM »
A T34-85 in this scheme would look cool:

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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #42 on: January 19, 2013, 04:07:51 AM »
Random idea:  The Achzarit APC is an Israeli heavily armored armored personnel carrier based upon captured T-54/T-55 hulls. 



What if the Soviets had developed this themselves though?  Imagine the disconcertion in the west to see a bunch of these rumbling along during a May day parade in their parade best:

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« Reply #43 on: January 19, 2013, 06:26:34 PM »
What if the Soviets had developed this themselves though?  Imagine the disconcertion in the west to see a bunch of these rumbling along during a May day parade

They have designed one but due to finances only a small batch has been produced.

What was originally the BTR-T (T-62 chassis), is now called the BMP-T (T-72 chassis).
BTR-T is now the Russian "Achzarit" type vehicle.  The BMO-T is a similar vehicle with a different front layout - both are on T-72 chassis.

The Russian BMR-3M (T-72 chassis) is similar to the IDF's Nakpadon/Puma -- all "BMR"s are engineer vehicles.

Models below made by Steve Zaloga .... there are very few photos of the real vehicles :(
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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #44 on: January 19, 2013, 06:37:49 PM »
I'm actually tempted to do a Temsah conversion on a T-54.  Much more sensible than the Achzarit IMHO.

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« Reply #45 on: January 20, 2013, 01:50:41 AM »
Some images available of the BMO-T and BTR-T at this link: ------> JED Site - T-72 Family of Vehicles

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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #46 on: January 20, 2013, 04:09:50 AM »

They have designed one but due to finances only a small batch has been produced.


Sorry, I should have been clearer.  I meant what if the Soviets produced this back in the '50s/'60s?
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« Reply #47 on: January 20, 2013, 06:05:17 AM »
There's also the Ladoga (T-80-based) -- to transport 3 people in comfort for 72hrs in any enviroment (chemical, nuclear or gas).  Only a few were built for Polit Bureau members to get them to shelter in the event of a nuclear war.  The prototype was used for recon of the Chernobyl accident site.

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« Reply #48 on: January 20, 2013, 06:45:48 AM »
RV on tracks! 

Excellent! 

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