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Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« on: January 19, 2012, 06:44:43 PM »
Hi folks,

A thread for your Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration.

To start with, I have always liked the look of the T-72 Moderna modification.



Speaking of which, does anyone know of a conversion in 1/35?

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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2012, 08:45:06 PM »
I thought Panzershop may have had one, but a look into their site suggests not, which is a great pity as it's a great looking piece of hardware.

I'd also like to see a BMP-T conversion too as that too is a wild looking ride.

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« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2012, 08:54:23 AM »
I did not illustrate the presence of an aft ramp, but how about a proper counterpart to Merkava by reversing the chassis?



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« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2012, 01:08:33 PM »
I did not illustrate the presence of an aft ramp, but how about a proper counterpart to Merkava by reversing the chassis?



Does anyone know what other land-based AFVs also use the Oerlikon KAA?


Whoa! What did you do to make that exactly?  :-*
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« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2012, 05:01:42 AM »
I've always liked the funky Grotte TG-1.





Some drawings here:
http://www.smcars.net/forums/tanks/9926-tg-experimental-heavy-tank.html

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« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2012, 05:08:02 AM »
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« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2012, 05:31:38 AM »
Su-14 family of experimental super-heavy SPGs:
http://bronetehnika.narod.ru/su14/su14.html


SU-14-BR-2, 203mm gun, T-35 chassis.
This monster is in the Kubinka Museum:


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« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2012, 05:35:46 AM »
Is big..is Russian...is good!  Da?!
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« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2012, 05:41:49 AM »
The whole site from whence the SU-14 stuff originated is simply wonderful:
http://www.bronetehnika.narod.ru/

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« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2012, 07:31:32 AM »
Whoa! What did you do to make that exactly?  :-*

I just reversed the wheels and tracks as well as the relative position of the turret from the T-72-120 line drawing (leaving the sand shields be though) and then drew the hull top outlines using the Merkava for reference.
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« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2012, 08:32:50 AM »
I wonder if KV-1S is big enough to take a KV-5 turret:


And then given my fascination with tanks having MG-armed sub-turrets and all:



...... wouldn't a T-28 equipped with KV suspension AND a 95mm main gun just kick-a*s (although its armour would be equivalent to early-Pz.IV at best)?
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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2012, 04:44:25 AM »
I'm surprised that no one has mentioned this one yet - Object 279:









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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2012, 08:16:51 AM »
Although arguably a hybrid of T-55 and M60 (as in Patton, provided by the US that believed the Sino-Soviet Split to be the beginning of a beautiful friendship) tanks by this point, there is the ZTZ-88/-88A/-88B from the PRC.

And then I did see fit to cook up a breakthrough tank version packing a 122mm gun, in the same vein as the Obyekt 430U.

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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #13 on: February 14, 2012, 09:39:22 AM »
 This is shaping up to be a terrific thread-I've been wanting a good set of plan views for the TG-1 for years. Thanks, JCF!

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« Reply #14 on: February 15, 2012, 09:56:46 AM »
I'd also like to see a BMP-T conversion too as that too is a wild looking ride.

S.P. Designs do a conversion - purchase his stuff at the Sargeant at Arms website.  I heard that SP Design's newer stuff is almost as good as AA and he does many of the odd modern Soviet vehicles.

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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #15 on: February 19, 2012, 04:25:15 AM »
Couple of real world proposals/developments:

120mm Main Gun T-72:




T-72 IFV (ala Merkava)

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« Reply #16 on: February 29, 2012, 02:38:32 PM »
Here's a firekiller built on an old T-50 MBT chassis. I think the conversion is done by a Slovak outfit:




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« Reply #17 on: February 29, 2012, 02:45:47 PM »
Here's some views of the current Czech army MBT, the T-72 M4CZ:









and a recovery vehicle built on the T-72 chassis:

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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #18 on: March 22, 2012, 10:09:36 PM »
Came across this somewhere on the web, Nice idea.


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« Reply #19 on: March 22, 2012, 10:12:53 PM »
Here are a fist full of different ones:

Not implemented projects tanks and other armored vehicles of the USSR. (123)
http://www.alternathistory.org.ua/taxonomy/term/167

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« Reply #20 on: March 31, 2012, 01:55:55 AM »
 Thats a terrific resource, Abtex, Thank-you! Look around in there, colleagues-everything from wheeled landships to tiny assault guns, to the 'rocket-torpedo' armed BT-5 ( available as a kit from UM. )

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« Reply #21 on: June 11, 2012, 11:04:29 AM »
No Shermans GB,


interesting.....what if as some kind of lend-lease payback the Soviets gave the Americans the plans/rights to T34?...maybe improved the design for western use?


Or maybe the Americans would entertain the idea of either building British designs in their factory or produce tanks with British influence?

Hum...... widened and/or lengthened Cavalier/Cromwell hull with T23 turret......?


The above suggestion was made in Ideas and Suggestions for GBs/Themed Builds discussion that the Russian T-34 be produced by the allies instead of the Sherman. 

So how about a T-34/85 armed with the 17pounder from the Sherman Firefly?  Add on the various features found on the Sherman and paint it up in the country of your choice. 
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« Reply #22 on: June 12, 2012, 12:41:30 AM »
Perhaps in a "not-invented-here" vein similar to the German attitude that produced the Panther, the Allied designers would insist on "improving" the T-34. The thing you SHOULDN'T mess with is it's mobility, so the wide tracks, Christie suspension and 500bhp engine would stay. For an allied version to be available in time to be useful, it would have to be supplied pretty early, so the exemplar vehicle would likely be a T-34/76, whose 2-man turret wouldn't be popular. You might therefore see the Western T-34 having straighter hull sides and a bigger 3-man turret along the lines of the Sherman.
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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #23 on: June 15, 2012, 07:40:25 AM »
Russian experimental tanks.
russian experimental tanks


There was an ISU 152/1. It was an ISU 152,but with a much longer barrel. PST makes/made it in braille scale. I would love to model a T44,and have it armed with a 100mm. I have a DML IS-2. That will be armed with a 100mm.
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« Reply #24 on: June 15, 2012, 04:20:00 PM »
Accurate Armour do a 1/35 T-44 kit - see here

I have one that I want to do as part of a diorama.  The idea is for WWIII in the late'40s/early '50s (maybe even as an outgrowth of Korea) with the tank displayed in a Berlin setting against some sort of allied tank ( any suggestions?)
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