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Re: Amphibious Ships, Vessels, and Landing Craft
« Reply #25 on: May 29, 2020, 10:21:14 PM »
The Navy’s new Light Amphibious Warship (LAW) program envisions procuring a class of 28 to 30 new amphibious ships to support the Marine Corps, particularly in implementing a new Marine Corps operational concept called Expeditionary Advanced Base Operations (EABO).
https://news.usni.org/2020/05/29/report-to-congress-on-navy-light-amphibious-warship?fbclid=IwAR3aJDeXtnKoNz_99I5BGZ5-s27ENcCCkr2zppARwJyzJOLIH8suU-_BnpA

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Re: Amphibious Ships, Vessels, and Landing Craft
« Reply #26 on: May 30, 2020, 04:47:24 AM »
It looks like a mega yacht full of Marines. I doubt they'll be able to keep the cost down with all the pork that's going to be involved...

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Re: Amphibious Ships, Vessels, and Landing Craft
« Reply #27 on: May 30, 2020, 04:57:11 AM »
Do someone say pork?

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Re: Amphibious Ships, Vessels, and Landing Craft
« Reply #28 on: May 30, 2020, 05:01:12 AM »
Mmmm...pork.  Doing some BBQ Pork Ribs this weekend...
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Re: Amphibious Ships, Vessels, and Landing Craft
« Reply #29 on: May 31, 2020, 12:02:56 AM »
USS PORKCHOP


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Re: Amphibious Ships, Vessels, and Landing Craft
« Reply #30 on: May 31, 2020, 03:47:31 AM »
 ;D
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Re: Amphibious Ships, Vessels, and Landing Craft
« Reply #31 on: June 04, 2020, 10:36:07 AM »
The Navy and Marine Corps are on drugs and their heads are still stuck in WWII.  ;D

The EABO concept was developed with an eye toward potential conflict scenarios with China in the Western Pacific.
Under the concept, the Marine Corps envisions, among other things, having reinforced-platoon-sized Marine Corps units
maneuver around the theater, moving from island to island, to fire anti-ship cruise missiles (ASCMs) and perform other
missions so as to contribute, alongside Navy and other U.S. military forces, to U.S operations to counter and deny sea
control to Chinese forces. The LAW ships would be instrumental to these operations, with LAWs embarking, transporting,
landing, and subsequently reembarking these small Marine Corps units.


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Re: Amphibious Ships, Vessels, and Landing Craft
« Reply #32 on: June 05, 2020, 08:26:21 PM »
The Navy and Marine Corps are on drugs and their heads are still stuck in WWII.  ;D

The EABO concept was developed with an eye toward potential conflict scenarios with China in the Western Pacific.
Under the concept, the Marine Corps envisions, among other things, having reinforced-platoon-sized Marine Corps units
maneuver around the theater, moving from island to island, to fire anti-ship cruise missiles (ASCMs) and perform other
missions so as to contribute, alongside Navy and other U.S. military forces, to U.S operations to counter and deny sea
control to Chinese forces. The LAW ships would be instrumental to these operations, with LAWs embarking, transporting,
landing, and subsequently reembarking these small Marine Corps units.


 ;D ;D ;D ;D :-\


What a collection of morons.  :-X


Yep, load a bunch on Marines on board a ship that can't defend its self, that has been bought instead of ships that can defend themselves, therefore aren't available to escort and defend it, with the object of landing said marines on an island somewhere so they can fire anti ship missiles and anti aircraft missiles at the ships and aircraft that likely would have sunk the ship transporting them before they got to where they were going to set up their missiles to defend themselves. 

Is it just me but wouldn't it make more sense to buy ships that can project power and survive doing so, rather than buy glorified ferries that will not survive?

When it comes down to it, wouldn't a large amphib that can lash marine vehicles to their deck, permitting the marines to use their vehicle based weapons while at sea in transit, as they currently do, make more sense?  The whole idea seem to be to divide the force into expendable, offensive, networked penny packets and hope enough of them survive to make an impact.

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Re: Amphibious Ships, Vessels, and Landing Craft
« Reply #33 on: June 06, 2020, 08:55:11 AM »
Better yet they admit that in our current age with the low odds of a classic amphibious landing
being carried out - and even the lower odds of it actually working, the Marines have returned to
their earlier role of Naval Infantry?
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Re: Amphibious Ships, Vessels, and Landing Craft
« Reply #34 on: June 06, 2020, 11:37:45 AM »
Better yet they admit that in our current age with the low odds of a classic amphibious landing
being carried out - and even the lower odds of it actually working, the Marines have returned to
their earlier role of Naval Infantry?

True, big deck amphibs have become medium carriers by default and their amphibious capability is only useful in limited / asymmetric confrontations and HADR.  The thinking behind the platoon sized elements is an assumption that the enemy wont be able to get them all, but looking at the proposed scales of equipment there wont be huge numbers of missile launchers anyway, meaning the whole plan falls on its face.  It would probably make more sense to embark a CB90 and a troop lift helo on an LCS to support a reinforced platoon of marines, i.e. making the marines an extension of the ship rather than the ship a mode of transport for the marines.

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Re: Amphibious Ships, Vessels, and Landing Craft
« Reply #35 on: June 07, 2020, 09:26:49 AM »
This is a great leap backwards.  The last non photo  op landings were in the Korean war.  Any Chinese units small enough for this reinforced platoon to beat could easily be ignored or taken out with an airstrike.  This vaguely looks like modified LSTs used in Riverine warfare in Vietnam.

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Re: Amphibious Ships, Vessels, and Landing Craft
« Reply #36 on: June 07, 2020, 06:28:10 PM »
Its a stern landing craft that reverses onto the beach.  The idea is they are capable of higher speeds in a seaway and are more seaworthy.