Schlachtschiffe Bismarck, Tirpitz, Gneisenau und Scharnhorst ideen

[ysi_maniac]

Merging Bismarck and Wisconsin. I particularly love germanized turrets  :)

[ysi_maniac]

This is, more or less, my idea about a post WWII Battleship, equipped with guns and missiles. Perhaps with nuclear capability.



Mainly done with Scharnhorst and Moskva bits.

[GTX_Admin]

Anti Shipping V-1 derivatives or perhaps “Zitteroschen” supersonic anti-shipping missiles plus V-2s?

[jcf]

Anti Shipping V-1 derivatives or perhaps “Zitteroschen” supersonic anti-shipping missiles plus V-2s?

So they'd just fire the V-1s etc. in the general direction of the enemy? And hope for the best? 
OK, I guess, if your enemy is in port and not moving.

Guided surface-to-surface against moving targets was just a dream in the period and nobody,
not even der Übermenschen, was even close to a solution.

[GTX_Admin]

Bah!  There you go again with that 'reality' thing....

[jcf]

Well, I suppose you could use the piloted version. 

[GTX_Admin]

[finsrin]

Dang,,, is that nice or what !

[ysi_maniac]

A RW project: Scharnhorst/Gneisenau with 15 inch guns. Original and upgunned.

[Story]

Anti Shipping V-1 derivatives or perhaps “Zitteroschen” supersonic anti-shipping missiles plus V-2s?

V-1s would be ambitious for use against capital ships on the horizon, if a Fritz-X guidance system was grafted onto them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fritz_X

 

Fritz-X was steered by the bombardier in the launching aircraft over a radio link between the aircraft's Kehl transmitter and the weapon's Straßburg receiver. The bombardier had to be able to see the target at all times, and like the Azon ordnance, the Fritz-X bomb had a flare in the tail so it could be seen from the controlling aircraft for its MCLOS-form guidance to control it properly. The disadvantage with this — in comparison to fully autonomous-guidance glide bombs like the operational U.S. Navy's Bat radar-homing glide bomb, used against Japan in 1944-45 — were that the aircraft had to be flown toward the target on a steady course and that as the missile neared its target it became possible to misguide by jamming its radio channel.

Still retaining those seaplanes, huh?


Kehl transmitter.
https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmXoypizjW3WknFiJnKLwHCnL72vedxjQkDDP1mXWo6uco/wiki/Kehl-Strasbourg_radio_control_link.html

[ysi_maniac]

Alternative main artillery for Bismarck.

Insert: What I considered turrets could look with all big guns german designers considered during WWII, they also considered 2 gun turrets only.

In this line, I envisaged posibilities to install them on a Bismarck hull. 15 inch is included for comparison purposes.

[ysi_maniac]

This pic, from World of Warships, seems to represent two stages in Scharnhorst evolution: top, original, and bottom, after eventual upgunning.

But bow looks a little different and bottom ship looks bigger than top ship. Is it just an effect of perspective?

Adjusting sizes looks that superstructure is moved aft in upgunned version

[Volkodav]

Hers an idea, how about the UKs treaty with NAZI Germany had the 35000 ton max but limited calibre to 11", a 12 gun (four triple) 11" Bismarck and Tirpitz.

[ysi_maniac]

3x3 config for Bismarck