Author Topic: MOWAG Piranha, LAV, LAV II, LAV III/Stryker ICV vehicles  (Read 35571 times)

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Re: MOWAG Piranha, LAV, LAV II, LAV III/Stryker ICV vehicles
« Reply #75 on: January 04, 2019, 12:47:15 PM »
I am kinda wondering about the stress the ARES cannon would inflict upon the LAV hull.  I heard that the LAV-AD was retired due to the long-term hull stress from firing the GAU-12/U although the ARES cannon isn't a repeater like that Gatling gun (at least not of the same sort).
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Re: MOWAG Piranha, LAV, LAV II, LAV III/Stryker ICV vehicles
« Reply #76 on: January 04, 2019, 02:01:27 PM »
Makes you wonder how the stresses created by the 105mm gun on the M1128 MGS are dealt with. 
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Re: MOWAG Piranha, LAV, LAV II, LAV III/Stryker ICV vehicles
« Reply #77 on: January 05, 2019, 12:12:08 AM »
Makes you wonder how the stresses created by the 105mm gun on the M1128 MGS are dealt with.

Well, outside of any measure done to the low-profile turret, the Piranha III (Stryker) might also have a tougher frame than the Piranha II (LAV-25 derivatives) to begin with......
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Re: MOWAG Piranha, LAV, LAV II, LAV III/Stryker ICV vehicles
« Reply #78 on: January 05, 2019, 07:53:15 AM »
Makes you wonder how the stresses created by the 105mm gun on the M1128 MGS are dealt with.

Just don't fire it from the 3 & 9 o'clock :-)

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Re: MOWAG Piranha, LAV, LAV II, LAV III/Stryker ICV vehicles
« Reply #79 on: July 20, 2019, 05:55:23 AM »
New Air Defence version - I like the rear flat area - could do other things with that:


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Re: MOWAG Piranha, LAV, LAV II, LAV III/Stryker ICV vehicles
« Reply #80 on: July 20, 2019, 08:22:24 AM »
Those sure look like Hellfire missiles on the left side. Combo AA and anti tank system?

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Re: MOWAG Piranha, LAV, LAV II, LAV III/Stryker ICV vehicles
« Reply #81 on: July 20, 2019, 10:13:32 AM »
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(From Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stryker) Stryker Mobile SHORAD Launcher (MSL): In August 2017, Boeing and General Dynamics unveiled a Stryker variant fitted with an Avenger turret for short-range air defense and operated by a three-man crew. The turret replaces the passenger compartment and in addition to the standard FIM-92 Stinger, it is being upgraded to fire Hellfire and AIM-9X Sidewinder missiles.
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Re: MOWAG Piranha, LAV, LAV II, LAV III/Stryker ICV vehicles
« Reply #82 on: July 21, 2019, 04:34:28 AM »
What other things could we add to the rear of that Stryker if we remove the Boeing 'turret' system.  A howitzer perhaps or maybe a HiMARS MLRS pod?  Maybe just a cargo pallet?  Maybe a VTOL UAV?
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Re: MOWAG Piranha, LAV, LAV II, LAV III/Stryker ICV vehicles
« Reply #83 on: July 21, 2019, 04:45:07 AM »
Speaking of which:

105mm SPH:




Fictional MLRS:

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Re: MOWAG Piranha, LAV, LAV II, LAV III/Stryker ICV vehicles
« Reply #84 on: July 21, 2019, 05:01:40 AM »
I wonder how we would go doing something like this:

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Re: MOWAG Piranha, LAV, LAV II, LAV III/Stryker ICV vehicles
« Reply #85 on: July 21, 2019, 05:12:42 AM »
Another option might be a Stryker with NASAMS in either boxed or unboxed form:





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Re: MOWAG Piranha, LAV, LAV II, LAV III/Stryker ICV vehicles
« Reply #86 on: March 09, 2021, 06:24:07 AM »
I do love the EUREKA turret.  The CF used M113s equipped with it (plus a co-axial machinegun) as a tank substitute before switching to the LAV III although Canada is not to only country to use the turret on the Piranha family of vehicles.

It's kinda a shame that the Hellfire has pretty much become the next big thing to the US military now.  Maybe the inclusion of, say, a thermobaric warhead would have made the TOW missile system more versatile.
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Re: MOWAG Piranha, LAV, LAV II, LAV III/Stryker ICV vehicles
« Reply #87 on: March 10, 2021, 03:41:01 AM »
Looking at that Swiss Panzerjäger 90, it might have made sense for the Canadian Forces to adopt the Kvaerner Eureka ALT for the faster-moving 6x6 AVGP as well as the tracked M113A2 TUA (TOW Under Armour). The latter being essentially similar to the Norwegian NM142.

As for the Canadian Forces' LAV III, mounting the M113's Kvaerner Eureka ALT created 33 x LAV TUAs. But they were eventually turned into Infantry Section Carriers armed with remotely-controlled weapon systems. Gingie may be able to confirm but, AFAIK, all of the LAV TUA variants were converted to LAV ISC standard with a Nanuk RCWS replacing that Kvaerner Eureka TOW turret.
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Re: MOWAG Piranha, LAV, LAV II, LAV III/Stryker ICV vehicles
« Reply #88 on: March 17, 2021, 11:13:21 AM »
I'm not even sure if we actually made all 33 LAV TUA, or if the production was shifted mid stream to the LAV RWS. It all became moot when the Army soon after decided to go with LAV-6. Which, while externally similar, is around 95% new parts.

I saw the Ontario Armour Museum (?) in Oshawa has a running LAV-III now! Looks like it has full EIS.

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Re: MOWAG Piranha, LAV, LAV II, LAV III/Stryker ICV vehicles
« Reply #89 on: May 13, 2021, 11:16:12 PM »
Repurpose those Stryker hulls!

The Army announced Wednesday that it is planning to divest all of its Stryker Mobile Gun Systems by the end of fiscal 2022. The service said in a news release it had decided the time has come to retire the M1128 Stryker Mobile Gun System after a study showed it is obsolete, and its out-of-date cannon and automatic loader have systemic issues.
https://www.military.com/daily-news/2021/05/12/army-ditching-all-of-its-stryker-mobile-gun-systems.html

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Re: MOWAG Piranha, LAV, LAV II, LAV III/Stryker ICV vehicles
« Reply #90 on: May 14, 2021, 03:17:46 PM »
I barely hit the 1 minute mark! Gods, how I hate that type of narration & voice! :o
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Re: MOWAG Piranha, LAV, LAV II, LAV III/Stryker ICV vehicles
« Reply #91 on: October 12, 2021, 07:55:27 PM »
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Re: MOWAG Piranha, LAV, LAV II, LAV III/Stryker ICV vehicles
« Reply #92 on: October 13, 2021, 01:56:16 AM »
From AUSA I presume?
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Re: MOWAG Piranha, LAV, LAV II, LAV III/Stryker ICV vehicles
« Reply #93 on: October 13, 2021, 02:01:32 AM »
If only there was a 1/35 M777 kit available...
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Re: MOWAG Piranha, LAV, LAV II, LAV III/Stryker ICV vehicles
« Reply #94 on: October 13, 2021, 02:08:19 AM »
Could a 1/35 M198 be modified to look like a triple 7?

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Re: MOWAG Piranha, LAV, LAV II, LAV III/Stryker ICV vehicles
« Reply #95 on: October 13, 2021, 05:56:36 AM »
If only there was a 1/35 M777 kit available...
Someone did make one in 1:35th scale but it is not for sale to us common folk/proles.  :(
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Re: MOWAG Piranha, LAV, LAV II, LAV III/Stryker ICV vehicles
« Reply #96 on: October 14, 2021, 01:06:35 AM »
Yeah, I was the one who made contact.  I didn't mention it deliberately.
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Re: MOWAG Piranha, LAV, LAV II, LAV III/Stryker ICV vehicles
« Reply #97 on: December 01, 2021, 02:18:23 AM »
Random idea:  How would a Flakpanzer Gepard turret go on a LAV?  I'm not sure of the turret ring diameters and don't have any relevant kits readily available but did have the bright spark of inspiration (or madness...).
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« Reply #98 on: December 01, 2021, 03:35:20 AM »
It would need to be a big LAV, like a Boxer or a Rooikat. I'm looking at a Gepard turret on a G6 :-)

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Re: MOWAG Piranha, LAV, LAV II, LAV III/Stryker ICV vehicles
« Reply #99 on: December 02, 2021, 01:16:03 AM »
It would need to be a big LAV, like a Boxer or a Rooikat. I'm looking at a Gepard turret on a G6 :-)

Yeah, I thought so too but didn't have the data etc.  Re the Boxer option, there is actually a proposed Air Defence variant with the Oerlikon Skyranger system - see here: https://ndiastorage.blob.core.usgovcloudapi.net/ndia/2005/garm/tuesday/bradick.pdf but it wouldn't look as cool as the Gepard turret IMHO... ;)
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