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Modelling => Ideas & Inspiration => Aero-space => Topic started by: GTX_Admin on December 15, 2011, 05:49:40 PM

Title: Junkers Ju85, Ju88, Ju288, Ju388 and Ju488... Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on December 15, 2011, 05:49:40 PM
How about a Canberra-eske Ju-88:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/Ju88Y.jpg)

Regards,

Greg
Title: Re: Junkers Ju85, Ju88, Ju288, Ju388 and Ju488... Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on December 17, 2011, 06:58:45 AM
Tri-motor Ju88:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/More%20Creations/883m.jpg)
Title: Re: Junkers Ju85, Ju88, Ju288, Ju388 and Ju488... Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on December 17, 2011, 06:59:31 AM
Ju488 derived from Ju88A:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/More%20Creations/b4924571.jpg)
Title: Re: Junkers Ju85, Ju88, Ju288, Ju388 and Ju488... Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: dy031101 on December 17, 2011, 12:31:32 PM
I don't know why, but Warhammer 40K Marauder (http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/Imperial_Navy/MARAUDER-BOMBER.html) and Marauder Destroyer (http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/Imperial_Navy/MARAUDER_DESTROYER.html) keep on getting me to think of basing real-life counterparts upon Ju 288 and 388...... and to wonder what the biggest machine cannon would be that could be used on a flexible gun mount......
Title: Re: Junkers Ju85, Ju88, Ju288, Ju388 and Ju488... Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Maverick on December 17, 2011, 12:38:08 PM
A Wellington bomber was tested with 40mm armed turrets, but I'd think that as a turretted weapon, 40mm would be about the most reasonable.

Regards,

John
Title: Re: Junkers Ju85, Ju88, Ju288, Ju388 and Ju488... Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: dy031101 on December 17, 2011, 12:46:58 PM
I wonder how Flak M43 37mm would do since navweaps.com describes it as a modified MK 103 (http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNGER_37mm-57_mk43.htm)......  :want:
Title: Re: Junkers Ju85, Ju88, Ju288, Ju388 and Ju488... Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Maverick on December 17, 2011, 01:44:00 PM
The Mk 103 was of comparable weight to the Vickers S gun.  Interesting in itself with the former being 30mm whilst the latter was a 40mm weapon.   I suspect a Flak gun would be substantially heavier due to its ground mount.  For a turreted weapon, I shouldn't think the refinements of the Flak gun would be necessary and a Mk 103 would be sufficient.  The more important question would be if the weapon had the ability to be slewed about for efficient anti-fighter work, which I suspect wouldn't be the case.

Regards,

John
Title: Re: Junkers Ju85, Ju88, Ju288, Ju388 and Ju488... Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: BadersBusCompany on December 17, 2011, 10:01:51 PM
Tri-motor Ju88:

([url]http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/More%20Creations/883m.jpg[/url])


 :in-love: :in-love: :in-love:
Title: Re: Junkers Ju85, Ju88, Ju288, Ju388 and Ju488... Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: dy031101 on December 18, 2011, 03:57:50 AM
The Mk 103 was of comparable weight to the Vickers S gun.  Interesting in itself with the former being 30mm whilst the latter was a 40mm weapon.


To its credit the Vickers S does seem lighter than the Flak M43 (I don't know the exact extent of the modification done to fire the heavier 37mm round, but the gun seems scaled up from the original MK 103).

I suspect a Flak gun would be substantially heavier due to its ground mount.  For a turreted weapon, I shouldn't think the refinements of the Flak gun would be necessary and a Mk 103 would be sufficient.  The more important question would be if the weapon had the ability to be slewed about for efficient anti-fighter work, which I suspect wouldn't be the case.


Flak M43 on its lightest naval mount (http://www.dockmuseum.org.uk/archive/browser.asp?subject=&title=&subtitle=&searchtype=1&deepcriteria=0204) can be trained by shoulder stirrup but elevated via a handwheel (probably to keep the stirrup on the operator's shoulders during high-angle firing).  Granted that still doesn't quite telll us about how fast the gun can swing.
Title: Re: Junkers Ju85, Ju88, Ju288, Ju388 and Ju488... Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on December 18, 2011, 04:28:04 AM
Bah!  Let's not worry about the physics/practicalities!  Model it! :D
Title: Re: Junkers Ju85, Ju88, Ju288, Ju388 and Ju488... Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on December 18, 2011, 04:29:26 AM
Does anyone know of any Ju288 kits in 1/48?

As one of the biggest programs during the war (Bomber B), there is surprisingly little published on it and even less in the way of models.

Regards,

Greg
Title: Re: Junkers Ju85, Ju88, Ju288, Ju388 and Ju488... Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: dy031101 on December 18, 2011, 04:30:55 AM
Here is what I think the Games Workshop configurations can be translated into......

"Marauder Imitation" (basic medium bomber and air-to-ground interdiction version):

1 x 37mm M43 (at least modified for belt feed?) on the nose position (counterpart to the turreted twin lascannon)

1 x twin MG 151/20 or MG 213 on the dorsal position (counterpart to the turreted twin heavy bolter)

1 x twin MG 151/20 or MG 213 on the tail position (counterpart to the turreted twin heavy bolter)

"Marauder Destroyer Imitation" (CAS version):

4 x MK 103, fixed forward-firing in the nose (counterpart to the six fixed autocannons)

1 x twin MG 151/20 or MG 213 on the dorsal position (counterpart to the turreted twin heavy bolter)

1 x twin MK 108 on the tail position (counterpart to the turreted twin assault cannon; these are intended not primarily to fend off pursuing enemy fighters but to "hose down" the enemy and make them keep their heads down after an attack pass)

And twin tail as well as maybe jet conversion for both.
Title: Re: Junkers Ju85, Ju88, Ju288, Ju388 and Ju488... Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: ChernayaAkula on December 28, 2011, 04:29:22 PM
Adaptation of Greg's Ju 488 - the Ju 488Z-1:

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m309/ChernayaAkula/WhIf/Ju488Z-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Junkers Ju85, Ju88, Ju288, Ju388 and Ju488... Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: finsrin on December 29, 2011, 12:55:41 PM
All those illustrations are inspiring. 
Feeds into my idea processor where things get kinda jumbled.  As will be evident when current bomber bash rolls out of the factory for photographs.
Thanks for posting them.  Do appreciate it.

Bill
Title: Re: Junkers Ju85, Ju88, Ju288, Ju388 and Ju488... Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: stevegallacci on December 30, 2011, 01:53:02 AM
No good art for it yet, but I've been thinking about a turbo-prop version of the Ju88 and/or '388. Part of the problem is the lack of a credible engine. I want to avoid the HeS011-based versions, as the engine would never really pan out in RL. A quick fix whiff could be a second turbine stage on the 003 or 004 jets to drive a prop. Or, for more whiffery, a development out of the 006, using the idea of the variable turbine stator, use it for a second turbine stage instead to take advantage of the potential variable power output. The 006 would be an interesting engine in general. Smaller in diameter and lighter than the 004 but with nearly the same power, at least potentially.
Title: Re: Junkers Ju85, Ju88, Ju288, Ju388 and Ju488... Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 09, 2012, 02:21:20 PM
Random idea: Ju88 or Ju188 floatplane as a replacement for the He-115.
Title: Re: Junkers Ju85, Ju88, Ju288, Ju388 and Ju488... Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 16, 2012, 12:27:23 PM
Random idea: Ju88 or Ju188 floatplane as a replacement for the He-115.

Can anyone recommend a solution for the floats for this idea...in 1/48?
Title: Re: Junkers Ju85, Ju88, Ju288, Ju388 and Ju488... Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: elmayerle on May 16, 2012, 12:34:30 PM
Well, does anyone do a conversion for the C-47 floatplane in 1/48?  Methinks that'd be close enough to work.
Title: Re: Junkers Ju85, Ju88, Ju288, Ju388 and Ju488... Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 16, 2012, 12:45:01 PM
A Ju-52 float plane conversion would also work....and I just found a supplier of a Ju-52 floatplane conversion in 1/48!!!
Title: Re: Junkers Ju85, Ju88, Ju288, Ju388 and Ju488... Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Brian da Basher on June 07, 2012, 03:28:04 AM
Have you considered a Ju-88 airliner? It'd look great in Ansett livery.

Brian da Basher
Title: Re: Junkers Ju85, Ju88, Ju288, Ju388 and Ju488... Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on June 07, 2012, 06:35:30 PM
Have you considered a Ju-88 airliner? It'd look great in Ansett livery.

Brian da Basher

That's actually an interesting idea...maybe post war using a 188?
Title: Re: Junkers Ju85, Ju88, Ju288, Ju388 and Ju488... Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Brian da Basher on June 08, 2012, 03:23:26 AM
Have you considered a Ju-88 airliner? It'd look great in Ansett livery.

Brian da Basher

That's actually an interesting idea...maybe post war using a 188?

You know, the larger, glazed nose of a 188 would be perfect! Fly Ansett and really see Australia!

Brian da Basher
Title: Re: Junkers Ju85, Ju88, Ju288, Ju388 and Ju488... Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: apophenia on June 08, 2012, 06:27:41 AM
Well, the later Ju-88 series became known for those marsupial-pouch belly panniers. How about going the whole hog (or, perhaps, wombat) ...
Title: Re: Junkers Ju85, Ju88, Ju288, Ju388 and Ju488... Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Brian da Basher on June 08, 2012, 07:25:01 AM
Brilliant, apophenia! Add the sleek sstreamlining of spats and Bob's your uncle!

I really like the Junkers Australia logo. Those guys really got around.

Brian da Basher
Title: Re: Junkers Ju85, Ju88, Ju288, Ju388 and Ju488... Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: raafif on June 08, 2012, 08:32:35 AM
RV Resins used to do an "airliner" in 1/72nd -- 2 early Ju-88s (the V-2 & V-6) were modded to test the new -188 nose design & had a glass fuselage roof for the flight-technicians.

Kit build ...
http://www.internetmodeler.com/2003/april/aviation/Ju88.htm (http://www.internetmodeler.com/2003/april/aviation/Ju88.htm)
Title: Re: Junkers Ju85, Ju88, Ju288, Ju388 and Ju488... Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: apophenia on June 09, 2012, 10:42:35 AM
That is too cool! I'd heard about those testbeds but never seen them depicted. I certainly would never have guessed that techies got shoe-horned into the old cockpit position! Cheers raafif!
Title: Re: Junkers Ju85, Ju88, Ju288, Ju388 and Ju488... Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Daryl J. on June 09, 2012, 10:56:08 PM
Take Cyberhobby's Ju-88, revert it back to twin tails and put it in USAF-Vietnam service along with a radarless ground attack He-219.    ;D
Title: Re: Junkers Ju85, Ju88, Ju288, Ju388 and Ju488... Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on June 10, 2012, 03:58:30 AM
One could use the Ju88 prototype as a starting point for an airliner derivative...

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/CAC23/8384d0c4.jpg)
Title: Re: Junkers Ju85, Ju88, Ju288, Ju388 and Ju488... Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Maverick on August 21, 2012, 06:49:06 AM
I've recently read about the initial RLM requirement for the Ju-388J heavy fighter to be an anti-B-29 aircraft as the Germans were apparently concerned that the Superforts would be deployed to Europe.  This was also the impetus for the Ta-152H series as high-altitude fighters.

Always thought the 388 was dead sexy in its various incarnations, but this adds a new sheen of mystique to the type.
Title: Re: Junkers Ju85, Ju88, Ju288, Ju388 and Ju488... Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Geoff on August 21, 2012, 11:25:40 PM
Also Wiki (OK not the most reliable) recon the Japanese were interested in it and had a copy of the plans.
Title: Re: Junkers Ju85, Ju88, Ju288, Ju388 and Ju488... Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on August 22, 2012, 02:44:55 AM
A backup profile for Die Staudammbrecher (http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=98.0)...based upon Ju388 Mistel

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/he-162/Staudammbrecher-Pinata.jpg)
Title: Re: Junkers Ju85, Ju88, Ju288, Ju388 and Ju488... Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Weaver on August 22, 2012, 07:20:26 AM
Well, the later Ju-88 series became known for those marsupial-pouch belly panniers. How about going the whole hog (or, perhaps, wombat) ...

Could see that doing Grand Canyon tours as well.....  :D

Perhaps it could be converted to nosewheel configuration? Extend the engine pods aft of the wing to provide a new, aft mounting point for the long, retractable gear, then put the nosewheel in the base of the pod, either fixed (and spatted, of course  ;)) or retractable. You could use a similar configuration for cargo with a "tin" pod with a rear door.


Like GTX's Tri-motor too. 8)

Title: Ju388T
Post by: sequoiaranger on August 23, 2012, 03:18:20 AM
I like to model torpedo-bombers. I "fell in love" with the Lindberg Ju-88 way back in the 60's (the one with the retractable landing gear and movable control surfaces) and I wanted to do a Ju-88-style torpedo bomber, but always liked the Ju-388 *LOOK* so...on my "project list" is a Ju-388 torpedo bomber. I am "told" that the 388 was a high-altitude fighter not "worthy" of being wasted on low-level missions. Bronx Cheer!!

I love the sleek look and the tail gun(s). My airbrush is not fine enough for the "wave-mirror" camo I would like to put on it, but since it is down the list a ways, I will have time to mull over what camo would be do-able.
Title: Re: Ju388T
Post by: GTX_Admin on August 23, 2012, 02:17:50 PM
I like to model torpedo-bombers. I "fell in love" with the Lindberg Ju-88 way back in the 60's (the one with the retractable landing gear and movable control surfaces) and I wanted to do a Ju-88-style torpedo bomber, but always liked the Ju-388 *LOOK* so...on my "project list" is a Ju-388 torpedo bomber.


According to the big book of all things Ju388 (see below), the Ju388M was to be a torpedo bomber version...

(http://www.barbarossabooks.eu/bmz_cache/a/a9febfff72a95c45089f5468e8eab7ae.image.396x550.jpg)

Mind you, that should not stop you.
Title: Re: Junkers Ju85, Ju88, Ju288, Ju388 and Ju488... Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Geoff on August 23, 2012, 09:29:48 PM
"...was to be". That magic phrase in Wif world!
Title: Re: Junkers Ju85, Ju88, Ju288, Ju388 and Ju488... Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on October 16, 2013, 02:11:16 PM
Simple idea:

(http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/upfiles/12193/585A309CCBC044F6902FA58B68EADF43.jpg)
(http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/upfiles/12193/8E825DA2065443F582E5DB9BDD7E2F8D.jpg)
Title: Re: Junkers Ju85, Ju88, Ju288, Ju388 and Ju488... Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: ysi_maniac on November 01, 2013, 12:15:17 PM
Ju-88 liner

(http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j340/ysi_maniac/Drawing/ju-88-liner.jpg) (http://s1080.photobucket.com/user/ysi_maniac/media/Drawing/ju-88-liner.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Junkers Ju85, Ju88, Ju288, Ju388 and Ju488... Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on November 02, 2013, 02:41:14 AM
Different...

I would perhaps base one on the prototypes:

(http://img810.imageshack.us/img810/2594/junkersju88v1bomber01.png)

or even something crazier such as this:

(http://www.scalemates.com/products/img/3/3/8/176338-12155.jpg?nr=&company=luedemann-modellbau&name=junkers%20ju%2088%20v5%20%22glasveranda%22)
(http://www.modellversium.de/galerie/img/9/8/9/9989/3141453/junkers-ju-88-v5-glasveranda-.jpg)
Title: Re: Junkers Ju85, Ju88, Ju288, Ju388 and Ju488... Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: ysi_maniac on November 02, 2013, 02:57:11 AM
^^^^^
Was that an actual project?
Title: Re: Junkers Ju85, Ju88, Ju288, Ju388 and Ju488... Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on November 02, 2013, 03:23:47 AM
Yes.

(http://1000aircraftphotos.com/Contributions/KleinBernhard/9055.jpg)
Title: Re: Junkers Ju85, Ju88, Ju288, Ju388 and Ju488... Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: raafif on November 02, 2013, 04:56:56 AM
^^^^^
Was that an actual project?

the glasshouse was to house engineers for testing the aircraft, not a transport/ airliner version ....... but I also had ideas for Lufthansa when the kit was released years ago :D
Title: Re: Junkers Ju85, Ju88, Ju288, Ju388 and Ju488... Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Rickshaw on November 02, 2013, 10:38:53 PM
I assume it was one of the Versuches machines for the development of the Ju288?
Title: Re: Junkers Ju85, Ju88, Ju288, Ju388 and Ju488... Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: apophenia on November 03, 2013, 05:09:32 AM
It was ... but far weirder-ooking than written descriptions of the Ju 88 V5 conversion seemed to imply  :-\  Thanks for posting that Greg  :)
Title: Re: Junkers Ju85, Ju88, Ju288, Ju388 and Ju488... Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Daryl J. on November 03, 2013, 05:36:08 AM
Some Dragon Ju-88G-6's were picked up cheap with the thought of putting BMW radials on the kit and modifying it for USAF Vietnam ground attack.    Possibly their Ju-188 kit would work too.
Title: Re: Junkers Ju85, Ju88, Ju288, Ju388 and Ju488... Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: ysi_maniac on October 21, 2017, 01:55:34 AM
Heavy bomber based on Ju-88 (this appears for comparison)

(http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j340/ysi_maniac/Drawing/SuperJu-88.jpg) (http://s1080.photobucket.com/user/ysi_maniac/media/Drawing/SuperJu-88.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Junkers Ju85, Ju88, Ju288, Ju388 and Ju488... Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on October 21, 2017, 02:21:21 AM
 :smiley:
Title: Re: Junkers Ju85, Ju88, Ju288, Ju388 and Ju488... Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: finsrin on October 21, 2017, 11:05:20 AM
Heavy bomber based on Ju-88 is sooooo inspiring  :-*
Title: Re: Junkers Ju85, Ju88, Ju288, Ju388 and Ju488... Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Story on April 04, 2018, 09:41:30 PM
Bare-metal finish (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b2/Bundesarchiv_Bild_146-1980-122-26%2C_Flugzeuge_Junkers_Ju_88%2C_Montage.jpg), and in pre-war USAAF markings.
Close enough for y'all to get the jist.
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/cf/e8/c0/cfe8c0f7eec79ca26c90c588d77aec58--junkers-raves.jpg)
Title: Re: Junkers Ju85, Ju88, Ju288, Ju388 and Ju488... Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on April 05, 2018, 01:41:51 AM
Some further inspiration for a BMF Ju88 (https://modelingmadness.com/review/axis/luft/goheen88.htm)

Plus these:

(http://fineartofdecalsimages.s3.amazonaws.com/Ju88usLS.jpg)(http://fineartofdecalsimages.s3.amazonaws.com/Ju88usFlagRFQcu.jpg)
Title: Re: Junkers Ju85, Ju88, Ju288, Ju388 and Ju488... Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on April 02, 2019, 01:46:20 AM
Random idea:  DB603 powered Ju88 or Ju188,
Title: Re: Junkers Ju85, Ju88, Ju288, Ju388 and Ju488... Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Old Wombat on April 02, 2019, 10:27:32 AM
Which US engines would you use to power the Ju 88? ???

The Allison V-1710 with the annular radiator or a radial?

If going radial, I'd suggest the P&W R-1535 for pre-/early production followed by the R-1830 for later production.


(Merlins, the only other really viable inline option in the pre-war era, wouldn't be on the radar in the US at this time.)
Title: Re: Junkers Ju85, Ju88, Ju288, Ju388 and Ju488... Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on April 03, 2019, 01:33:24 AM
Hadn't thought that far.  Maybe Allison V-1710s as suggested for the inline versions or R-2600s for the radial versions.
Title: Re: Junkers Ju85, Ju88, Ju288, Ju388 and Ju488... Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Old Wombat on April 03, 2019, 05:55:11 PM
The R-2600s offer a significant increase in power over the Jumos but this is somewhat offset by a significant increase in weight (from my very rough mental guesstimates) & the diameter seems to be significantly greater, too.

I suggested the Wasps because their diameter seems to be not overly dissimilar to the Jumo 211 & they're in the same power output range, & their weights kinda fit the rough Jumo+cooling guesstimate I made.

The Allisons are a fairly good fit; smaller frontal area, only about 50kg/105lb heavier & up to 500hp/365kW more power, each - the length could be a bit of an issue, though, as they're longer by about 42cm/16.5".



Sorry, waffling. :-[
Title: Re: Junkers Ju85, Ju88, Ju288, Ju388 and Ju488... Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on April 04, 2019, 01:52:03 AM
As mentioned, I was only looking at the R-2600 as a replacement for the BMW 801 powered variants, not the Jumo powered variants.  BTW, here is a quick comparison of radial engines"


BMW 801
Type: 14-cylinder two-row air-cooled radial engine
Length: 2,006 mm (79 in)
Diameter: 1,290 mm (51 in)
Dry weight: 1,012 kg (2,231 lb)
Power output: 1,560 PS (1,539 hp, 1,147 kW) at 2,700 rpm for takeoff at sea level
[Later versions up to 2,000 PS (1,973 hp, 1,471 kW)]
Power-to-weight ratio: 1.13 kW/kg (0.69 hp/lb)
R-2600
Type: 14-cylinder two-row air-cooled radial engine
Length: 62.06 in (1,576 mm)
Diameter: 55 in (1,397 mm)
Dry weight: 2,045 lb (930 kg
1,750 hp (1,305 kW) at 2,600 rpm at 3,200 ft (975 m) military power
1,450 hp (1,080 kW) at 2,600 rpm at 15,000 ft (4,575 m) military power
Power-to-weight ratio: 0.86 hp/lb (1.40 kW/kg))
R-1830
Type: 14-cylinder two-row air-cooled radial engine
Length: 59.06 in (1,500 mm)
Diameter: 48.03 in (1,220 mm)
Dry weight: 1,250 lb (567 kg)
1,200 hp (895 kW) at 2,700 rpm for takeoff
700 hp (522 kW) at 2,325 rpm cruise power at 13,120 ft (4,000 m)
Power-to-weight ratio: 0.96 hp/lb (1.58 kW/kg)
Title: Re: Junkers Ju85, Ju88, Ju288, Ju388 and Ju488... Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on July 20, 2019, 04:25:24 AM
Interesting version:

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/bd/20/6b/bd206b737711bdbed1c0e06f62d8a376.jpg)
Title: Re: Junkers Ju85, Ju88, Ju288, Ju388 and Ju488... Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: ysi_maniac on November 23, 2019, 08:28:25 PM
Ju-88 liner

([url]http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j340/ysi_maniac/Drawing/ju-88-liner.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1080.photobucket.com/user/ysi_maniac/media/Drawing/ju-88-liner.jpg.html[/url])


I was not happy:

(https://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j340/ysi_maniac/Drawing/Ju-88_liner.jpeg) (http://s1080.photobucket.com/user/ysi_maniac/media/Drawing/Ju-88_liner.jpeg.html)
Title: Re: Junkers Ju85, Ju88, Ju288, Ju388 and Ju488... Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: jcf on November 26, 2019, 08:41:39 AM
Vehicle a 1980 concept by Czech architect Jan Kaplicky for an air-portable vacation home.
Kaplicky had an interesting career, and up until his death he made the drawings of his concepts
with standard drafting tools, no CADD.

(http://photos.smugmug.com/JCF-ART/i-c6754rP/1/e5d46b88/O/VEHICLE_1980_01.jpg)

(http://photos.smugmug.com/JCF-ART/i-vBTwvbW/0/465de597/O/VEHICLE_1980_02.jpg)

(http://photos.smugmug.com/JCF-ART/i-69KKpmq/0/9f8c3b3c/O/VEHICLE_1980_03.jpg)

The book Drawings accompanied a show of his drawings back in 2015 at the London Architectural Association.
I have a copy and it's stunning.

https://www.bmiaa.com/jan-kaplicky-drawings-drawings-aa-london/ (https://www.bmiaa.com/jan-kaplicky-drawings-drawings-aa-london/)

https://www.amazon.com/Jan-Kaplický-Drawings-Richard-Rogers/dp/0993072100 (https://www.amazon.com/Jan-Kaplický-Drawings-Richard-Rogers/dp/0993072100)
Title: Re: Junkers Ju85, Ju88, Ju288, Ju388 and Ju488... Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on November 27, 2019, 01:45:41 AM
Has a scifi look.   :smiley:
Title: Re: Junkers Ju85, Ju88, Ju288, Ju388 and Ju488... Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: apophenia on November 27, 2019, 10:33:01 AM
Indeed. In Kaplický's exhibit illustrations, even where familiar things are included - like a Hughes helicopter - it still looks like sci-fi!

Cool stuff but gotta love Jon's Ju 388 vacation home  ;D
Title: Re: Junkers Ju85, Ju88, Ju288, Ju388 and Ju488... Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: ysi_maniac on October 09, 2021, 10:16:25 PM
Has this config ever existed in RW?  I mean squared tail with early nose and canopy.

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/j340/ysi_maniac/Ju88_squarTail.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds) (https://app.photobucket.com/u/ysi_maniac/a/caec78e4-057f-4fe9-82f4-083a43455765/p/32acb099-01c4-414a-a13f-a96c38969647)
Title: Re: Junkers Ju85, Ju88, Ju288, Ju388 and Ju488... Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on October 10, 2021, 02:57:14 AM
I don't believe so.
Title: Re: Junkers Ju85, Ju88, Ju288, Ju388 and Ju488... Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: ysi_maniac on October 10, 2021, 05:10:06 AM
This can be a scaleorama project with a 1/72 Ju-88 and a 1/48 Ju-87

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/j340/ysi_maniac/Ju-88_KanonVogel.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds) (https://app.photobucket.com/u/ysi_maniac/a/caec78e4-057f-4fe9-82f4-083a43455765/p/3e2d44d0-a5da-46e8-bba0-22da38210f4f)
Title: Re: Junkers Ju85, Ju88, Ju288, Ju388 and Ju488... Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on October 11, 2021, 01:37:01 AM
No need to re-scale...some Ju88s did carry twin 37mm cannon:

(https://www.worldwarphotos.info/wp-content/gallery/germany/aircrafts/ju-88/Ju_88P-2.jpg)

I'm not sure if one can get a kit or a conversion of it though.
Title: Re: Junkers Ju85, Ju88, Ju288, Ju388 and Ju488... Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: ysi_maniac on October 11, 2021, 04:48:51 AM
^^^^^
The point is COOLNESS. ;) ;) :smiley:
Title: Re: Junkers Ju85, Ju88, Ju288, Ju388 and Ju488... Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: ysi_maniac on October 11, 2021, 04:49:30 AM
Now with retractable undercarriage.

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/j340/ysi_maniac/Ju-88_KanonVogel_ruc.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds) (https://app.photobucket.com/u/ysi_maniac/a/caec78e4-057f-4fe9-82f4-083a43455765/p/576dbd0f-bfe5-4b1d-b8e2-330fe961d827)
Title: Re: Junkers Ju85, Ju88, Ju288, Ju388 and Ju488... Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: ysi_maniac on October 15, 2021, 01:08:23 PM
On top, original Do-17 and Ju-88. The rest are some ideas merging these designs.

What are your favourites?  :thumbsup:

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/j340/ysi_maniac/Do-17_Ju-88.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds) (https://app.photobucket.com/u/ysi_maniac/a/caec78e4-057f-4fe9-82f4-083a43455765/p/7c6d0f9a-37f7-4eb5-83f4-e901671e2536)