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Title: Jeep and the like on every army in the world
Post by: ysi_maniac on September 03, 2017, 02:13:41 PM
I was unable to find a dedicated thread to Jeep. Really surpised. If I am wrong, please correct me.

Two ways to stretch a soviet Jeep.

(http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j340/ysi_maniac/drawTanks/Gaz-67_stretch.jpg) (http://s1080.photobucket.com/user/ysi_maniac/media/drawTanks/Gaz-67_stretch.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Jeep and the like on every army in the world
Post by: GTX_Admin on September 04, 2017, 02:37:57 AM
Some odd balls for you:

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR7mlytlX_-P4TMEvgPQKJISe4veb0LhEyg9HkedPtn0bB6kUV1iA)
(http://www.milweb.net/features/pics/jeep/t28-2.jpg)
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTiiQZcPTd5ldXPFHiifFBFCjvy56PiQKyOGGDk1kz3WhMW9ZkP)
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/85/c0/b9/85c0b92650e22bd0a0a4206b234140fb--lifted-jeeps-jeep-willys.jpg)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0b/1942Jeep.jpg/440px-1942Jeep.jpg)
(http://www.surfacezero.com/g503/data/500/medium/1942_MT-C_6x6_gun_carrier_low_res.jpg)
Title: Re: Jeep and the like on every army in the world
Post by: Story on April 13, 2020, 05:22:57 AM
Pro bono publica, drawings of the 37mm M3 AT gun mount for the jeep (and other vehicles, I reckon).
http://users.multipro.com/brentandloriann/37mm_at_gun_mounts_on_jeeps.htm (http://users.multipro.com/brentandloriann/37mm_at_gun_mounts_on_jeeps.htm)

T-14 extended Jeep w/ 37mm
(https://i.pinimg.com/564x/cf/14/d4/cf14d45a1ff9c2cdcd5e7ef3198b263b.jpg)
Title: Re: Jeep and the like on every army in the world
Post by: GTX_Admin on June 27, 2020, 04:24:29 AM
Modified Jeeps used by the Australian Army to run supplies on the Beaufort-Jesselton railway line in Borneo, 1945.:

(https://ww2aircraft.net/forum/attachments/yy-jpg.354828/)(https://ww2aircraft.net/forum/attachments/yyy-jpg.354829/)
(https://ww2aircraft.net/forum/attachments/yyyy-jpg.354830/)(https://ww2aircraft.net/forum/attachments/yyyyy-jpg.354831/)
(https://ww2aircraft.net/forum/attachments/yyyyyy-jpg.354832/)(https://ww2aircraft.net/forum/attachments/yyyyyyyy-jpg.354833/)
Title: Re: Jeep and the like on every army in the world
Post by: jcf on November 01, 2020, 11:02:15 AM
When he was stationed in the Phillipines at the end of and after WWII Wally Parks, co-founder
of Hot Rod and Motor Trend magazines, founder of the NHRA (National Hot Rod Association)
the original drag-racing sanctioning body, hot-rodded a Bantam BRC-40 with a 2.3L /136 ci
Ford V8-60 Flathead from a captured Japanese vehicle. Love the shiny beauty rings on the
wheels. The name has been commonly been translated as 'Follow Me', however another Tagalog
to English translation is 'C'mon do it'.
 ;D
The BRC-40 was a limited production version of Bantam's competitor for the GP competition
that was won by Willys, even though Ford got the big production contracts.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50547847188_d8d9baac6a_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Jeep and the like on every army in the world
Post by: finsrin on November 01, 2020, 12:35:46 PM
Interesting  --  Good history writeup Jon.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Jeep and the like on every army in the world
Post by: elmayerle on November 02, 2020, 12:17:20 AM
When he was stationed in the Phillipines at the end of and after WWII Wally Parks, co-founder
of Hot Rod and Motor Trend magazines, founder of the NHRA (National Hot Rod Association)
the original drag-racing sanctioning body, hot-rodded a Bantam BRC-40 with a 2.3L /136 ci
Ford V8-60 Flathead from a captured Japanese vehicle. Love the shiny beauty rings on the
wheels. The name has been commonly been translated as 'Follow Me', however another Tagalog
to English translation is 'C'mon do it'.
 ;D
The BRC-40 was a limited production version of Bantam's competitor for the GP competition
that was won by Willys, even though Ford got the big production contracts.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50547847188_d8d9baac6a_b.jpg)
Reminds me of a short story I read "way back when" in the seventh or eighth grade (that's a minimum of 55 years ago, forgive me if I don't remember all the details) entitled, IIRC, The Affair of the Wayward Jeep.  It's set during the Korean conflict when a young hot-rodder is assigned as a general's drive and he improves the general's ride, including swapping on the straight four for a Buick V-8 out of the salvage area.  When the general gets ambused, they get away because that jeep moves faster than the expected standard jeep.

Damn, now I'm going to have to find that story again and re-read for pleasure.
Title: Re: Jeep and the like on every army in the world
Post by: GTX_Admin on November 16, 2020, 02:44:35 AM
(https://ww2aircraft.net/forum/attachments/clmf-000000jpg-jpg.601905/)
(https://ww2aircraft.net/forum/attachments/itigikjhjpg-jpg.601906/)
(https://ww2aircraft.net/forum/attachments/sans_titrejpg-jpg.601907/)
Title: Re: Jeep and the like on every army in the world
Post by: GTX_Admin on June 27, 2021, 01:03:07 AM
With MGM-21A (Nord SS.10):

(http://www.warwheels.net/images/m38a1wsS10HAUGH1.jpg)(http://www.warwheels.net/images/m38a1wsS10HAUGH2.jpg)
(http://www.warwheels.net/images/m38a1wsS10HAUGH3.jpg)(http://www.warwheels.net/images/m38a1wsS10HAUGH4.jpg)

Video:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vivsiToYT8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vivsiToYT8)
Title: Re: Jeep and the like on every army in the world
Post by: GTX_Admin on June 27, 2021, 01:06:30 AM
Best Value models did have a 1/35 kit of this too:

(https://www.scalemates.com/products/img/5/2/8/1003528-13385-96-720.jpg)(https://www.scalemates.com/products/img/0/7/1/1092071-21643-94-pristine.jpg)
Title: Re: Jeep and the like on every army in the world
Post by: jcf on July 05, 2021, 07:50:16 AM
When he was stationed in the Phillipines at the end of and after WWII Wally Parks, co-founder
of Hot Rod and Motor Trend magazines, founder of the NHRA (National Hot Rod Association)
the original drag-racing sanctioning body, hot-rodded a Bantam BRC-40 with a 2.3L /136 ci
Ford V8-60 Flathead from a captured Japanese vehicle. Love the shiny beauty rings on the
wheels. The name has been commonly been translated as 'Follow Me', however another Tagalog
to English translation is 'C'mon do it'.
 ;D
The BRC-40 was a limited production version of Bantam's competitor for the GP competition
that was won by Willys, even though Ford got the big production contracts.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50547847188_d8d9baac6a_b.jpg)
Reminds me of a short story I read "way back when" in the seventh or eighth grade (that's a minimum of 55 years ago, forgive me if I don't remember all the details) entitled, IIRC, The Affair of the Wayward Jeep.  It's set during the Korean conflict when a young hot-rodder is assigned as a general's drive and he improves the general's ride, including swapping on the straight four for a Buick V-8 out of the salvage area.  When the general gets ambused, they get away because that jeep moves faster than the expected standard jeep.

Damn, now I'm going to have to find that story again and re-read for pleasure.

Delayed read of post, but Buick didn't have a V-8 until the 1st Gen 322 in3 'nailhead' was
first offered to the public in late '53 for the '54 model year. It would be way too big, and
heavy, for a jeep.

Buick 322
Length: 33.50
Height: 29.00   
Width: 28.00
Weight: 685 lbs

Willys L-134 'Go Devil'
Length: 26.53
Height: 27.34   
Width: 21.16
Weight: 365 lbs
Title: Re: Jeep and the like on every army in the world
Post by: apophenia on July 05, 2021, 08:20:21 AM
Maybe it was an Oldsmobile Rocket? The timing is about right. Not sure though if that 1949 Olds 303 would have been much smaller than the later Buick  :(
Title: Re: Jeep and the like on every army in the world
Post by: Old Wombat on July 05, 2021, 11:47:59 AM
It seems to have been a story for the entertainment of children, does it really have to be that accurate? ???
Title: Re: Jeep and the like on every army in the world
Post by: jcf on July 07, 2021, 02:34:18 AM
Maybe it was an Oldsmobile Rocket? The timing is about right. Not sure though if that 1949 Olds 303 would have been much smaller than the later Buick  :(

Similar size but heavier.
Title: Re: Jeep and the like on every army in the world
Post by: ysi_maniac on September 18, 2021, 12:10:33 PM
I love proper windows in AFVs :smiley: ;)

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/j340/ysi_maniac/PlaneCockpitUSA.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds) (https://app.photobucket.com/u/ysi_maniac/a/e58f1c54-aee2-42c9-bc15-f72ec22af374/p/69f24a31-8dd7-4318-be0e-c685bc70885f)
Title: Re: Jeep and the like on every army in the world
Post by: ysi_maniac on October 24, 2021, 02:51:05 AM
What can I do with a Willys Jeep at 1/35 and a M20 at 1/56?

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/j340/ysi_maniac/Jeep-35_Greyhound-56.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds) (https://app.photobucket.com/u/ysi_maniac/a/e58f1c54-aee2-42c9-bc15-f72ec22af374/p/9b35f60f-24eb-4edb-a997-1e30e17aef57)

Top row originals, bottom row my creations.
Title: Re: Jeep and the like on every army in the world
Post by: finsrin on October 24, 2021, 07:18:10 PM
M20 variants rock.  Inspiring  8)
Title: Re: Jeep and the like on every army in the world
Post by: perttime on October 25, 2021, 12:06:17 AM
Peugeot P4 (based on Mercedes Benz G) is pretty much a "jeep".

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1c/French_Peugeot_P4_dsc06852.jpg/640px-French_Peugeot_P4_dsc06852.jpg)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peugeot_P4

We had them in UN peace keeping forces in Lebanon in 1991. Power wasn't exactly abundant, going up steep slopes while carrying a bit of load.

Title: Re: Jeep and the like on every army in the world
Post by: jcf on November 15, 2021, 04:51:34 AM
When he was stationed in the Phillipines at the end of and after WWII Wally Parks, co-founder
of Hot Rod and Motor Trend magazines, founder of the NHRA (National Hot Rod Association)
the original drag-racing sanctioning body, hot-rodded a Bantam BRC-40 with a 2.3L /136 ci
Ford V8-60 Flathead from a captured Japanese vehicle. Love the shiny beauty rings on the
wheels. The name has been commonly been translated as 'Follow Me', however another Tagalog
to English translation is 'C'mon do it'.
 ;D
The BRC-40 was a limited production version of Bantam's competitor for the GP competition
that was won by Willys, even though Ford got the big production contracts.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50547847188_d8d9baac6a_b.jpg)
Reminds me of a short story I read "way back when" in the seventh or eighth grade (that's a minimum of 55 years ago, forgive me if I don't remember all the details) entitled, IIRC, The Affair of the Wayward Jeep.  It's set during the Korean conflict when a young hot-rodder is assigned as a general's drive and he improves the general's ride, including swapping on the straight four for a Buick V-8 out of the salvage area.  When the general gets ambused, they get away because that jeep moves faster than the expected standard jeep.

Damn, now I'm going to have to find that story again and re-read for pleasure.

The story is The Affair of the Wayward Jeep and it's set during the Korean War.

Mauldin's description of the Jeep being re-engined with a Ford flathead V-8 from a
Japanese staff car aligns with what Wally created and I wouldn't be at all surprised
if Bill knew about Wally's hotrod Jeep.

Cheers, Jon

p.s. the story was originally in the Saturday Evening Post but it was later reprinted
in various collections including 52 Miles to Terror which is available for checkout
on the Internet Archive site:
https://archive.org/details/52milestoterroro00carl
Title: Re: Jeep and the like on every army in the world
Post by: Story on December 20, 2021, 02:01:06 PM
Bantam and Willys Recon Cars: The Army's Early Jeeps of WWII
https://www.militarytrader.com/military-vehicles/bantam-and-willys-recon-cars-a-photographic-study (https://www.militarytrader.com/military-vehicles/bantam-and-willys-recon-cars-a-photographic-study)

Slat grill (Soviet?) version drawings
https://drawingdatabase.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/willys-mb-sovietic-edition.png (https://drawingdatabase.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/willys-mb-sovietic-edition.png)
Title: Re: Jeep and the like on every army in the world
Post by: raafif on December 21, 2021, 08:57:15 AM
drive backwards & Attack !!
Title: Re: Jeep and the like on every army in the world
Post by: raafif on December 21, 2021, 09:48:23 AM
Generals need a mobile-home !

I love proper windows in AFVs :smiley: ;)
Title: Re: Jeep and the like on every army in the world
Post by: GTX_Admin on December 22, 2021, 01:02:56 AM
drive backwards & Attack !!

More images and details:  https://forums.g503.com/viewtopic.php?t=227369
Title: Re: Jeep and the like on every army in the world
Post by: Story on December 22, 2021, 04:09:49 PM
drive backwards & Attack !!

More images and details:  https://forums.g503.com/viewtopic.php?t=227369

Useful insight right here -

This modification was created by the 17th Infantry Regiment. Talking to Korean War veterans of the Regiment Association during one of our reunions. They me it was used to supplement their I&R platoon during the Battle of the Guardposts time period. (? 1952-53).

Based on close/ enlargement of the photos, my opinion is that they had reversed the drive train. Rear axle under the engine and the front diff was placed where the rear axle was originally attached. The crew compartment was reversed. the driver is now over the front axle and sat on the right side. It had a ball turret 30 cal MG. The ball turret most likely is one that was used on the M4A3E8 tank. I'm saying this is because the Tank Company was equipped with the Easy 8 Sherman. IT was also armed with two 30 cal and one 90mm Recoilless rifle on a pedestal.
Title: Re: Jeep and the like on every army in the world
Post by: Frank3k on December 23, 2021, 09:04:05 AM
Those mods are pretty significant. I'm sure JMNs would complain that mods like that are just not done, especially in a combat zone.
Title: Re: Jeep and the like on every army in the world
Post by: ysi_maniac on December 23, 2021, 05:38:30 PM
Hi raafif, I love your 2 last posts. :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Jeep and the like on every army in the world
Post by: Story on March 09, 2022, 05:50:07 AM
(https://scontent-atl3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/275331345_149470240827884_1032745815512470497_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=YoPyKXN5pJ4AX8xVeJT&_nc_ht=scontent-atl3-2.xx&oh=00_AT_3WbE45Y5kcVXYexvfkyHcg0243c06X42-yr8zFfmfRA&oe=622CF948)(https://preview.redd.it/s7xlz5ehx3k81.jpg?auto=webp&s=98f0e3b9f17fe62163e1aa4002cd5a35c9d072f3)

https://www.ebay.com/itm/224533494524 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/224533494524)
Title: Re: Jeep and the like on every army in the world
Post by: Frank3k on March 09, 2022, 06:22:18 AM
This Gopnik Z-Team UAZ 3909 (https://www.scalehobbyist.com/catagories/Military_Vehicles/russian-uaz3909-military-van/ZVE00003644/product.php?pg=2&ppp=48&sb=stocknumber_a&so=d&e=0&pr=1&sc=35) is still available in the west, but not for long.
Title: Re: Jeep and the like on every army in the world
Post by: Story on March 09, 2022, 08:02:53 AM
This Gopnik Z-Team UAZ 3909 (https://www.scalehobbyist.com/catagories/Military_Vehicles/russian-uaz3909-military-van/ZVE00003644/product.php?pg=2&ppp=48&sb=stocknumber_a&so=d&e=0&pr=1&sc=35) is still available in the west, but not for long.

You know what you must do, Tovarich.

PS - https://karpatiatrucks.com/uaz-452-bukhanka/ (https://karpatiatrucks.com/uaz-452-bukhanka/)
Title: Re: Jeep and the like on every army in the world
Post by: Story on March 10, 2022, 11:03:18 PM
Army Day, 1942
(https://scontent-lga3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/275631962_5070274466365046_9143763589995571213_n.jpg?_nc_cat=110&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=9267fe&_nc_ohc=xLVSw_OMBlIAX_77YVd&_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-2.xx&oh=00_AT-BFfmJ6pJlDEHhNJ9Rownk82MRoPxt8jGbj8T6nUDaZQ&oe=622FA392)
Title: Re: Jeep and the like on every army in the world
Post by: Kerick on March 10, 2022, 11:47:29 PM
That’s the Army for you. Wasting everyone’s time for probably a week getting ready for a dog and poney show.
Title: Re: Jeep and the like on every army in the world
Post by: Story on March 11, 2022, 12:07:03 AM
That’s the Army for you. Wasting everyone’s time for probably a week getting ready for a dog and poney show.

"this has all happened before and it will all happen again" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmILOL55xP0)
Title: Re: Jeep and the like on every army in the world
Post by: Story on September 27, 2022, 10:14:42 PM
(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/309452561_2937653243206826_2952174516972820721_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5cd70e&_nc_ohc=yh6YEV32M5YAX_jk5z3&_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-1.xx&oh=00_AT-NO5yY06Xwq56pmuNhi5jzXooOdabJX48C60iE8EFUJg&oe=63385DD3)
Title: Re: Jeep and the like on every army in the world
Post by: Story on November 13, 2022, 07:53:56 AM
(https://i.pinimg.com/564x/12/78/ec/1278ecb41c68a3f0b7323a1f5648d0dc.jpg)

Hmmm.

Just have to scale this to 1/35th
https://biwin.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/papercraft-tank-light-tank-m3a1-stuart-papercraft.jpg
Title: Re: Jeep and the like on every army in the world
Post by: Story on November 13, 2022, 08:04:19 AM
More diorama inspiration
(https://i.pinimg.com/564x/ae/ce/cc/aececc426640a6ff92095bce33698759.jpg)
Title: Re: Jeep and the like on every army in the world
Post by: GTX_Admin on November 14, 2022, 12:25:49 AM
 :smiley: :smiley: