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Title: Lockheed Constellation...and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 05, 2013, 04:24:22 PM
Hi folks,

A thread dedicated to your Lockheed Constellation...and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/51/Superconstellation2594.jpg)

Regards,

Greg
Title: Re: Lockheed Constellation...and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 05, 2013, 04:28:10 PM
What about a RAF EC-121?

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d7/Lockheed_EC-121D_Thailand_1972.jpg)
Title: Re: Lockheed Constellation...and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 05, 2013, 04:30:49 PM
Random idea:  KC-121
Title: Re: Lockheed Constellation...and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 05, 2013, 04:36:04 PM
of course we can't forget the XB-30:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/5a/Lockheed_XB-30.jpg)

Which there is a kit of available (http://www.anigrand.com/AA4030_XB-30.htm)
Title: Re: Lockheed Constellation...and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: elmayerle on May 06, 2013, 08:14:31 AM
B-30 evolution in parallel with the Constellation to a late-model version similar to the Starliner.  Perhaps some adapted as KB-30's to refuel early jets?
Title: Re: Lockheed Constellation...and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 06, 2013, 04:22:56 PM
Maybe a Super Connie with podded jets?
Title: Re: Lockheed Constellation...and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: ysi_maniac on October 07, 2013, 12:42:09 PM
Like this?

(http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j340/ysi_maniac/Drawing/jet_constellation.jpg) (http://s1080.photobucket.com/user/ysi_maniac/media/Drawing/jet_constellation.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Lockheed Constellation...and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: upnorth on October 07, 2013, 01:33:55 PM
I'm not terribly informed on the aircraft, but did they ever try turboprops on her?

I'd think it might do well in the MPA role if you could successfully get a weapons bay into her.
Title: Re: Lockheed Constellation...and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on October 07, 2013, 01:59:21 PM
Yep;

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0a/Lockheed_R7V-2_turboprop_Connie_in_flight_c1953.jpeg)
Title: Re: Lockheed Constellation...and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: finsrin on October 07, 2013, 03:32:00 PM
Wonder how well Constellation would perform with contemporary turboprop engines & props.
Throw in newer lighter weight avionics and materials here-n-there.
Title: Re: Lockheed Constellation...and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: The Big Gimper on October 07, 2013, 06:25:00 PM
Like this?

([url]http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j340/ysi_maniac/Drawing/jet_constellation.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1080.photobucket.com/user/ysi_maniac/media/Drawing/jet_constellation.jpg.html[/url])


This is so cool.  Build it and put it beside the Comet and the AVRO Jetliner.

Would love to build the XB-30 too but the Heller L-749 kits (http://www.scalemates.com/products/product.php?id=114948) cost too much..
Title: Re: Lockheed Constellation...and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: ysi_maniac on October 08, 2013, 12:05:16 PM
A second study

(http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j340/ysi_maniac/Drawing/jet_constellation_1.jpg) (http://s1080.photobucket.com/user/ysi_maniac/media/Drawing/jet_constellation_1.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Lockheed Constellation...and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Alvis 3.1 on October 08, 2013, 05:09:26 PM
The two dominant airliner manufacturers of the late 1940s combine their talents to come up with this trend-setting Jet Airliner:

(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g102/Alvis3_1/JetConnie_zpscf100bc3.jpg)[/URL]

Alvis 3.1
Title: Re: Lockheed Constellation...and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: ysi_maniac on October 08, 2013, 11:43:47 PM
^^^^^
Beautiful! :) :-*
Title: Re: Lockheed Constellation...and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Alvis 3.1 on October 09, 2013, 12:53:40 AM
Making it in styrene is proving to be a bit frustrating. First, you have to carve up both a Connie AND a Nimrod....



Alvis 3.1
Title: Re: Lockheed Constellation...and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: ysi_maniac on October 16, 2013, 06:29:20 AM
Searching for Jet Constellation in Secret Projects forum, I got this. A marvel:
(http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j340/ysi_maniac/Drawing/Constellations-superimposed.gif) (http://s1080.photobucket.com/user/ysi_maniac/media/Drawing/Constellations-superimposed.gif.html)

Then I give you 2 proposals:
(http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j340/ysi_maniac/Drawing/jet_constellation_3.jpg) (http://s1080.photobucket.com/user/ysi_maniac/media/Drawing/jet_constellation_3.jpg.html)

... with more affordable (from a styrene point of view) engines ...
(http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j340/ysi_maniac/Drawing/jet_constellation_2.jpg) (http://s1080.photobucket.com/user/ysi_maniac/media/Drawing/jet_constellation_2.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Lockheed Constellation...and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on October 16, 2013, 01:34:09 PM
Sweet!
Title: Re: Lockheed Constellation...and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: upnorth on October 16, 2013, 05:16:01 PM
Like a Jetstar on steroids!
Title: Re: Lockheed Constellation...and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: ysi_maniac on November 04, 2013, 09:26:12 PM
Single tail Connie. HERESY!

(http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j340/ysi_maniac/Drawing/super_constellation_singletail.jpg) (http://s1080.photobucket.com/user/ysi_maniac/media/Drawing/super_constellation_singletail.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Lockheed Constellation...and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: PR19_Kit on November 04, 2013, 09:32:37 PM
Making it in styrene is proving to be a bit frustrating. First, you have to carve up both a Connie AND a Nimrod....
Alvis 3.1


In 1/72 scale that's true but in 1/144 you'd need a Minicraft Connie and an Airfix Comet 4B, not quite so expensive.
Title: Re: Lockheed Constellation...and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: kitnut617 on November 04, 2013, 09:58:02 PM
Single tail Connie. HERESY!

No, logical !  ---  :)
Title: Re: Lockheed Constellation...and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: ysi_maniac on November 12, 2013, 10:34:18 PM
BTW, someone has written this article in wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_L-193 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_L-193)

Is the author any of us? Anyway, it is a great idea !!!
Title: Re: Lockheed Constellation...and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: The Big Gimper on July 08, 2021, 11:29:50 PM
Found on Facebook.

Artist: David Holmes
Group: The Greatest Planes That Never Were
Text: The early Constellation shared many design features with the Lockheed Lightning

(https://scontent.fyzd1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-0/p180x540/214715532_10159764369392386_3646951361341117659_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=825194&_nc_ohc=T1W2xLckmWAAX-ESXx3&_nc_ht=scontent.fyzd1-2.fna&tp=6&oh=af0512314ec02125c991891d5531f5f1&oe=60EB6F25)
Title: Re: Lockheed Constellation...and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: The Big Gimper on July 08, 2021, 11:30:38 PM
Found on Facebook.

Artist: David Holmes
Group: The Greatest Planes That Never Were
Text: Connie commuter

(https://scontent.fyzd1-3.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/198104262_10159713484397386_653904118576582577_n.jpg?_nc_cat=103&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=825194&_nc_ohc=_wayqg9bH2oAX832NyH&_nc_ht=scontent.fyzd1-3.fna&oh=fce0e46a7b2b0131b8f9b69a09268898&oe=60ED05FA)
Title: Re: Lockheed Constellation...and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: The Big Gimper on July 08, 2021, 11:32:19 PM
Found on Facebook.

Artist: David Holmes
Group: The Greatest Planes That Never Were
Text: Lockheed Constellation with the special "extended gear" for deep snow conditions (Ahh, not really)

(https://scontent.fyzd1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/169173946_10159534536007386_3946947923179622371_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=825194&_nc_ohc=JeDDdCw0aGQAX87Jp0D&_nc_ht=scontent.fyzd1-2.fna&oh=18ce764bf88ba4f101dc92c4de5e0cbd&oe=60EB7CB0)
Title: Re: Lockheed Constellation...and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on July 09, 2021, 02:41:24 AM
Found on Facebook.

Artist: David Holmes
Group: The Greatest Planes That Never Were
Text: The early Constellation shared many design features with the Lockheed Lightning

(https://scontent.fyzd1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-0/p180x540/214715532_10159764369392386_3646951361341117659_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=825194&_nc_ohc=T1W2xLckmWAAX-ESXx3&_nc_ht=scontent.fyzd1-2.fna&tp=6&oh=af0512314ec02125c991891d5531f5f1&oe=60EB6F25)

That needs to be built.
Title: Re: Lockheed Constellation...and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: apophenia on July 09, 2021, 03:22:47 AM
Love these! That "deep snow conditions" Connie should've been in TCA markings though. Just sayin' ...  ;D
Title: Re: Lockheed Constellation...and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: finsrin on July 09, 2021, 05:28:43 PM
  :o   :smiley:   8)   :-*

Yes - needs to be on someone's build list.
Title: Re: Lockheed Constellation...and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Geoff on July 09, 2021, 08:16:50 PM
Rear freight ramp for airdrops and LAPES?
Title: Re: Lockheed Constellation...and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on July 10, 2021, 03:18:20 AM
Rear freight ramp for airdrops and LAPES?

I was thinking more of perspex cone for viewing lounge.
Title: Re: Lockheed Constellation...and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: elmayerle on July 10, 2021, 04:55:02 AM
Rear freight ramp for airdrops and LAPES?

I was thinking more of perspex cone for viewing lounge.
For the airliner version, no doubt.  I could see the cargo version with either a rear freight ramp and/or clam shell doors.
Title: Re: Lockheed Constellation...and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: The Big Gimper on October 14, 2021, 01:50:06 AM
Via tsrjoe.  Also Special Projects Forum.

Lockheed Model L-255, In 1953 CALAC proposed to the RCAF a modified Constellation 1049D for maritime recon. The Connie airframe was modified with a nose-mounted 20-mm gun turret, increased cockpit windows, added search radar, added external pod for gunner, stores, radar and camera, added MAD tail and added wing rockets and missiles provisions. Internal changes would be minor except as necessary for the new equipment.

Performance would have been a bit less than the Model 1049D due to the added protuberances creating additional drag. The idea was to have turboprop power plants to restore performance levels. (Note: which would have reduced range)

Retractable dorsal turret visible on the forward fuselage in the side view
Title: Re: Lockheed Constellation...and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: kitnut617 on October 14, 2021, 03:37:29 AM
Cor!  :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: that's as good as the Douglas MPR-10 found in Nimrod's Genesis
Title: Re: Lockheed Constellation...and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: finsrin on October 14, 2021, 05:21:10 AM
AAAH,,,  that's what to do with one of stash Constellations !