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Modelling => Ideas & Inspiration => Land => Topic started by: ysi_maniac on December 17, 2015, 01:38:39 PM

Title: SdKfz 250, 251, Hanomag
Post by: ysi_maniac on December 17, 2015, 01:38:39 PM
Wheeled SdKfz 250 and 251

(http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j340/ysi_maniac/drawTanks/wheeled_250_251.jpg) (http://s1080.photobucket.com/user/ysi_maniac/media/drawTanks/wheeled_250_251.jpg.html)
Title: Re: SdKfz 250, 251, Hanomag
Post by: raafif on January 07, 2016, 12:13:32 PM
fulltrack APC from a 251 (engine relocated to side at rear) ;)
Title: Re: SdKfz 250, 251, Hanomag
Post by: ChernayaAkula on January 07, 2016, 03:45:06 PM
^ Sd.Kfz. 113 ?   ;)  Okay, 113 isn't half of either 250 or 251, but it looks like 113 is a somewhat fitting number for it.  :P
Title: Re: SdKfz 250, 251, Hanomag
Post by: Wulf on January 10, 2016, 07:41:40 AM
once did something along those lines................

(http://i68.tinypic.com/fcny3t.jpg)
Title: Re: SdKfz 250, 251, Hanomag
Post by: ysi_maniac on January 11, 2016, 05:39:54 PM
 :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :-*
Title: Re: SdKfz 250, 251, Hanomag
Post by: ysi_maniac on January 11, 2016, 05:41:07 PM
fulltrack APC from a 251 (engine relocated to side at rear) ;)

I love this.  :-* More info?
Title: Re: SdKfz 250, 251, Hanomag
Post by: M.A.D on January 11, 2016, 05:59:22 PM
fulltrack APC from a 251 (engine relocated to side at rear) ;)

Now that's clever!

M.A.D
Title: Re: SdKfz 250, 251, Hanomag
Post by: ysi_maniac on January 12, 2016, 05:25:05 AM
I must be stupid. I did not note the hanomag photo was edited.
Hahahaha!
Title: Re: SdKfz 250, 251, Hanomag
Post by: GTX_Admin on January 13, 2016, 02:25:11 AM
fulltrack APC from a 251 (engine relocated to side at rear) ;)


Looks similar to the real world Kätzchen.  Here is a simple line drawing:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/melbsyd/Katzen.jpg)
Title: Re: SdKfz 250, 251, Hanomag
Post by: ysi_maniac on January 14, 2016, 01:55:45 AM
Thinking on a try in 3d styrene ...

(http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j340/ysi_maniac/drawTanks/sdkfz251_kurz.jpg) (http://s1080.photobucket.com/user/ysi_maniac/media/drawTanks/sdkfz251_kurz.jpg.html)
Title: Re: SdKfz 250, 251, Hanomag
Post by: GTX_Admin on January 14, 2016, 02:42:24 AM
Thinking on a try in 3d styrene ...


Go for it!
Title: Re: SdKfz 250, 251, Hanomag
Post by: ysi_maniac on January 15, 2016, 08:00:37 PM
http://www.ebay.es/itm/20MM-1-76-GERMAN-BISON-GRILLE-WESPE-R35-TURRETED-HANOMAG-SPARES-OR-REPAIR-/221991349196?hash=item33afb72bcc:g:LasAAOSwwPhWiUEB (http://www.ebay.es/itm/20MM-1-76-GERMAN-BISON-GRILLE-WESPE-R35-TURRETED-HANOMAG-SPARES-OR-REPAIR-/221991349196?hash=item33afb72bcc:g:LasAAOSwwPhWiUEB)
Have you seen the turreted hanomag? Did it exist? Is it a whif?
Title: Re: SdKfz 250, 251, Hanomag
Post by: ChernayaAkula on January 15, 2016, 10:40:06 PM
^ Looks like it's real: LINK! (http://panzerserra.blogspot.de/2012/10/sdkfz-251-ausf-d-with-apx-french-turret.html)
Title: Re: SdKfz 250, 251, Hanomag
Post by: The Big Gimper on March 19, 2017, 07:18:11 PM
Found this on Facebook.

I'm not a treadhead / Sd.Kfz. 251 expert so any comments if this real or fake?

(https://scontent.fxds1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/17265143_982691911863980_1252030402633538192_n.jpg?oh=b552c29c6caa6d1fd82d41d5ec60989c&oe=5927AD6D)
Title: Re: SdKfz 250, 251, Hanomag
Post by: Old Wombat on March 19, 2017, 09:51:23 PM
They look like the real deal to me, & notice the hand-painted nature of the markings & catalogue number in the bottom right corner of the image.

I'd guess this is a real, period image of a US Army unit with captured German half-tracks (Sd.Kfz. 251/1 Ausf.D, probably).

Interestingly the front fenders have been removed from both of them.
Title: Re: SdKfz 250, 251, Hanomag
Post by: Weaver on March 19, 2017, 11:16:13 PM
Combining the last few posts, the next logical step would be a Hanomag with a Greyhound turret on it. Yugoslavia maybe?
Title: Re: SdKfz 250, 251, Hanomag
Post by: Jeffry Fontaine on March 20, 2017, 08:08:19 AM
Combining the last few posts, the next logical step would be a Hanomag with a Greyhound turret on it. Yugoslavia maybe?

Excellent suggestion!
Title: Re: SdKfz 250, 251, Hanomag
Post by: Logan Hartke on April 11, 2018, 02:02:32 PM
Here's something I cobbled together recently...

Logan's Profiles - SdKfz 231 Halbkettenfahrzeug (http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=144.msg140069#msg140069)

(By the way, I'm posting it in multiple threads since you never know where someone might be looking for inspiration months from now.)

Cheers,

Logan
Title: Re: SdKfz 250, 251, Hanomag
Post by: ysi_maniac on August 15, 2018, 01:53:33 AM
Crossing Sdkfz 234 and 251

(http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j340/ysi_maniac/drawTanks/sdkfz-234-251.jpg) (http://s1080.photobucket.com/user/ysi_maniac/media/drawTanks/sdkfz-234-251.jpg.html)
Title: Re: SdKfz 250, 251, Hanomag
Post by: Twiddle on September 23, 2018, 02:28:27 AM
Sd.Kfz. 251 with a AML-90 turret ?

IIRC the IDF used a M-3 Halftrack also with the same low-pressure 90mm gun as used on the AML-90
Title: Re: SdKfz 250, 251, Hanomag
Post by: dy031101 on September 25, 2018, 11:23:24 PM
Possible starting point
Title: Re: SdKfz 250, 251, Hanomag
Post by: dy031101 on July 10, 2019, 12:58:27 PM
Um...... (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7tlZDsNBkY)

Wiki entry for the "Rag-Tag Circus". (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/83rd_Infantry_Division_(United_States)#The_Rag-Tag_Circus)
Title: Re: SdKfz 250, 251, Hanomag
Post by: Story on April 13, 2020, 09:09:14 PM
Stumbled upon these turreted versions

Panzer Mk II?
https://scontent.fphl2-3.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/90527856_10221851157492148_4783315531505598464_n.jpg?_nc_cat=104&_nc_sid=ca434c&_nc_ohc=969Fz_mKac8AX_tkg6i&_nc_ht=scontent.fphl2-3.fna&oh=e15acf664734172d281d31b91660ad63&oe=5EBBAD16

T-34/76 (mockup for training? What's the weight of a T-34/76 turret?)
https://scontent.fphl2-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/53431844_1635066583263546_3476779444905967616_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&_nc_sid=ca434c&_nc_ohc=6GYCdeUBpPwAX9D-8ZV&_nc_ht=scontent.fphl2-2.fna&oh=b380aa207514387bc08eb377c7264adf&oe=5EB9F30D

Title: Re: SdKfz 250, 251, Hanomag
Post by: Story on April 13, 2020, 09:11:00 PM
Stumbled upon these turreted versions

Panzer Mk II?
https://scontent.fphl2-3.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/90527856_10221851157492148_4783315531505598464_n.jpg?_nc_cat=104&_nc_sid=ca434c&_nc_ohc=969Fz_mKac8AX_tkg6i&_nc_ht=scontent.fphl2-3.fna&oh=e15acf664734172d281d31b91660ad63&oe=5EBBAD16 (https://scontent.fphl2-3.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/90527856_10221851157492148_4783315531505598464_n.jpg?_nc_cat=104&_nc_sid=ca434c&_nc_ohc=969Fz_mKac8AX_tkg6i&_nc_ht=scontent.fphl2-3.fna&oh=e15acf664734172d281d31b91660ad63&oe=5EBBAD16)

T-34/76 (mockup for training? What's the weight of a T-34/76 turret?)
https://scontent.fphl2-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/53431844_1635066583263546_3476779444905967616_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&_nc_sid=ca434c&_nc_ohc=6GYCdeUBpPwAX9D-8ZV&_nc_ht=scontent.fphl2-2.fna&oh=b380aa207514387bc08eb377c7264adf&oe=5EB9F30D (https://scontent.fphl2-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/53431844_1635066583263546_3476779444905967616_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&_nc_sid=ca434c&_nc_ohc=6GYCdeUBpPwAX9D-8ZV&_nc_ht=scontent.fphl2-2.fna&oh=b380aa207514387bc08eb377c7264adf&oe=5EB9F30D)

Hobby Lobby has the Tamiya kit dirt cheap. Mail order claims SOLD OUT, but when the stores reopen they might still be on the shelves.
https://www.hobbylobby.com/Crafts-Hobbies/Model-Kits/Military/German-Hanomag-SDKFZ-251-1/p/21588 (https://www.hobbylobby.com/Crafts-Hobbies/Model-Kits/Military/German-Hanomag-SDKFZ-251-1/p/21588)
Title: Re: SdKfz 250, 251, Hanomag
Post by: ysi_maniac on November 10, 2021, 06:38:30 AM
Night vision equipped truck

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/j340/ysi_maniac/nacht_Sdkfz251.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds) (https://app.photobucket.com/u/ysi_maniac/a/e58f1c54-aee2-42c9-bc15-f72ec22af374/p/ded6fa40-0af7-42c6-9f88-29e700ae6164)
Title: Re: SdKfz 250, 251, Hanomag
Post by: Story on September 28, 2023, 03:33:15 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/jIuZ1tx.jpeg)
Title: Re: SdKfz 250, 251, Hanomag
Post by: Story on October 16, 2023, 06:27:49 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-7Nap8U8AEKtOK?format=jpg&name=small)

(https://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=351.0;attach=33578;image)
Title: Re: SdKfz 250, 251, Hanomag
Post by: apophenia on October 16, 2023, 09:37:38 AM
Been there, done that ...  ;D

-- https://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=351.msg9375#msg9375
Title: Re: SdKfz 250, 251, Hanomag
Post by: Story on October 23, 2023, 02:31:04 AM
Been there, done that ...  ;D

-- https://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=351.msg9375#msg9375 (https://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=351.msg9375#msg9375)

Neat. Like a German BA-6/10

Wait. Doesn't the SDKFz-231 6 rad look like a wheeled predecessor?
https://tank-afv.com/ww2/germany/Sd-Kfz-231_6-rad.php (https://tank-afv.com/ww2/germany/Sd-Kfz-231_6-rad.php)

(https://www.the-blueprints.com/blueprints-depot-restricted/tanks/ww2-tanks-germany-2/sd_kfz_231_schwerer_panzerspahwagen_6_rad-75370.jpg)
Title: Re: SdKfz 250, 251, Hanomag
Post by: apophenia on October 23, 2023, 04:04:59 AM
Wait. Doesn't the SDKFz-231 6 rad look like a wheeled predecessor?
https://tank-afv.com/ww2/germany/Sd-Kfz-231_6-rad.php (https://tank-afv.com/ww2/germany/Sd-Kfz-231_6-rad.php)

It does indeed!  :smiley: