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Modelling => Completed GBs => Group and Themed Builds => Red Star Soviet GB => Topic started by: AXOR on March 29, 2017, 11:22:42 PM

Title: Red Star Wings
Post by: AXOR on March 29, 2017, 11:22:42 PM
New GB,new challenges and my first attempt.
MiG 22 Fullspeed :

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2898/32907362483_baf60aaf18_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Red Star Wings
Post by: Artoor_K on March 30, 2017, 01:20:49 AM
Great...Don't call me rivetcounter or JMN...but Soviet or Russian fighters /attackers usually have odd numbers :) Mig-15,-17,-19,-21,-23,-25 etc.
Title: Re: Red Star Wings
Post by: Tophe on March 30, 2017, 01:38:35 AM
Is this the secret source of the Mirage IIIE? Nice... ;)
Title: Re: Red Star Wings
Post by: taiidantomcat on March 30, 2017, 02:51:09 AM
Thats sharp  :) :-*
Title: Re: Red Star Wings
Post by: Kelmola on March 30, 2017, 04:29:08 AM
Great...Don't call me rivetcounter or JMN...but Soviet or Russian fighters /attackers usually have odd numbers :) Mig-15,-17,-19,-21,-23,-25 etc.
But fictional Soviet fighters can also have even numbers, such as MiG-28 ;)
Title: Re: Red Star Wings
Post by: GTX_Admin on March 30, 2017, 05:22:37 AM
Errr...is it 1st of April yet? ::)
Title: Re: Red Star Wings
Post by: apophenia on March 30, 2017, 06:49:51 AM
Errr...is it 1st of April yet? ::)

Comrades: Does this Socialist modelling collective have an associated NKVD unit? A capitalist interloper is suspected  ::)  Person claiming to be Tovarich GTX_Admin is suspiciously unaware that the hundredth anniversary of Sovnarkom's glorious Soviet Calendar approaches  :icon_surprised:
Title: Re: Red Star Wings
Post by: GTX_Admin on March 30, 2017, 06:58:47 AM
Comrade, the Committee of State Sanctioned Modelling, Alternative History and Tractor Carburettor Production (not sure how the last bit got added but the State knows best) is very aware of the approaching hundredth anniversary of Sovnarkom's glorious Soviet Calendar.  That said, is the loyal(?) comrade also aware that pre-emptive celebration events (approx 34hrs (corrected Moscow time) ahead of schedule) are an example of decadent counterrevolutionary behaviour obviously instigated by corrupt imperialist elements?  One wouldn't want to need to start a closer investigation of said comrades activities would we...

Title: Re: Red Star Wings
Post by: AXOR on March 30, 2017, 07:05:11 AM
Thanks guys  :)

Great...Don't call me rivetcounter or JMN...but Soviet or Russian fighters /attackers usually have odd numbers :) Mig-15,-17,-19,-21,-23,-25 etc.
Well,what options would I have? ;D The other numbers are available and aesthetically speaking this MiG 22 fits perfectly between MiG 21 and MiG 23.

But fictional Soviet fighters can also have even numbers, such as MiG-28 ;)
I had this in mind.

Errr...is it 1st of April yet? ::)
Jeez...this happens when you reading between the lines or diagonally...or maybe 1st April is the pay day ;D and I jumped into the future  ;D
In this case,my drawing is still eligible?
Title: Re: Red Star Wings
Post by: GTX_Admin on March 30, 2017, 07:08:28 AM

In this case,my drawing is still eligible?

That will be up to Comrade LemonJello, the current Secretary of the Committee of State Sanctioned Modelling, Alternative History and Tractor Carburettor Production.
Title: Re: Red Star Wings
Post by: apophenia on March 30, 2017, 07:10:43 AM
Comrade, the Committee of State Sanctioned Modelling, Alternative History and Tractor Carburettor Production (not sure how the last bit got added but the State knows best) is very aware of the approaching hundredth anniversary of Sovnarkom's glorious Soviet Calendar.  That said, is the loyal(?) comrade also aware that pre-emptive celebration events (approx 34hrs (corrected Moscow time) ahead of schedule) are an example of decadent counterrevolutionary behaviour obviously instigated by corrupt imperialist elements?  One wouldn't want to need to start a closer investigation of said comrades activities would we...

Oops, ... so is there decent wifi coverage at those Re-Education Centres, Comrade?  :o
Title: Re: Red Star Wings
Post by: GTX_Admin on March 30, 2017, 07:13:14 AM
GLONASS coverage is good.  Whether you will have time to use it though is questionable.  After all, there are all those Unicraft and Starfix kits to be building...
Title: Re: Red Star Wings
Post by: LemonJello on March 30, 2017, 09:48:26 PM
The Committee of State Sanctioned Modelling, Alternative History and Tractor Carburettor Production has met and come to the following conclusion:

Comrade Axor's eagerness to show the motherland's foes our military prowess is admirable but must be tempered so as to keep Шпионы и диверсанты (spies and saboteurs) in the dark.  In this case, we of the Committee of State Sanctioned Modelling, Alternative History and Tractor Carburettor Production see this as merely a "peek behind the curtain" sure to rouse the proletariat to even greater goals!

However, we must warn the collective that our glorious leader, GTX_Admin has his gimlet eye upon us all!

Title: Re: Red Star Wings
Post by: AXOR on April 01, 2017, 06:00:07 AM
After investigation by the Committee of State Sanctioned Modelling, Alternative History and Tractor Carburettor Production,chief manager Alexey Axorovici was suspended for an indefinite period and MiG-22 project was canceled,although,the Air Force were in desperate need of an new jet fighter.
However, his departure didn't mean ceasing development of new projects  because,in secret,he collaborated with new chief designer and the result of their collaboration was MiG-24 Fantom !

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2857/33681602091_44c2b77af9_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Red Star Wings
Post by: LemonJello on April 01, 2017, 08:32:33 PM
The Committee of State Sanctioned Modelling, Alternative History and Tractor Carburettor Production affixes the official Seal of Approval to these progressive designs!

(http://d2ydh70d4b5xgv.cloudfront.net/images/8/8/soviet-russian-original-poster-agricultural-productivity-communist-propaganda-99bf99052738ecfef630fe092f228945.jpg)
Title: Re: Red Star Wings
Post by: AXOR on April 03, 2017, 06:08:43 AM
Sukhoi Su-23 Faster :

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2850/32967861774_34f5285327_b.jpg)

Title: Re: Red Star Wings
Post by: GTX_Admin on April 03, 2017, 03:15:17 PM
That looks good
Title: Re: Red Star Wings
Post by: AXOR on April 03, 2017, 11:50:48 PM
Thanks Greg  :)

Now,Frankenstein sesion  ;D  F-16 and MiG-21
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2938/33817419685_11e7606dbb_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Red Star Wings
Post by: ChernayaAkula on April 04, 2017, 01:28:48 AM
Nice!  8)

Lemme guess: it was later upgraded with a bis-style spine and able to carry AA-7 Apex AA-10 Alamos?  ;)

EDIT: Going by the Archers, Alamos would be more appropriate.
Title: Re: Red Star Wings
Post by: Tophe on April 04, 2017, 02:44:18 AM
Congratulations and thanks! I had never imagined that a non-bubble F-16 would be lovey as well... :-*
Title: Re: Red Star Wings
Post by: taiidantomcat on April 04, 2017, 03:52:54 AM
That MiG-16 looks ridiculously legitimate  :-* I built a 1/32 one but borrowed from the Mig-23.

F-111 looks gorgeous  :-*
Title: Re: Red Star Wings
Post by: AXOR on April 11, 2017, 10:59:25 PM
Thanks comrades  :)
One of the most important achievements in civil aviation !

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2824/33162616883_acaaf3b7f4_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Red Star Wings
Post by: Brian da Basher on April 11, 2017, 11:24:49 PM
Looks great in Aeroflot livery, Mr Axor!

Brian da Basher
Title: Re: Red Star Wings
Post by: Tophe on April 11, 2017, 11:29:33 PM
I must confess I was unable to say if the Tu-203 is a Real airplane or not... :( ???
I checked with Google and found none, so it is invented while perfectly credible, congratulations! :-*
Is this a shortened Tu-204?
Title: Re: Red Star Wings
Post by: ChernayaAkula on April 12, 2017, 12:39:17 AM
Niiiice!  8)

Just a thought: a painted-on fake glass nose?  :P For old times' sake.

Maybe even in a sort-of "retro" livery. The one with the blue tail and black anti-glare panel.
EDIT: This scheme. Love the more vibrant blue. LINK! (http://www.airliners.net/photo/Aeroflot/Tupolev-Tu-134A/2447242/L)
Title: Re: Red Star Wings
Post by: AXOR on April 22, 2017, 01:33:03 AM
Thanks gents  :)
Moritz,good point  ;)

The fight continues,Ilyushin IL-9
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2869/33338865104_83842521e1_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Red Star Wings
Post by: Logan Hartke on April 22, 2017, 02:25:30 AM
That's really sharp.

Cheers,

Logan
Title: Re: Red Star Wings
Post by: GTX_Admin on April 22, 2017, 04:23:28 AM
Subtle change that could easily fool many
Title: Re: Red Star Wings
Post by: Tophe on April 22, 2017, 11:48:38 AM
,Ilyushin IL-9
Subtle change that could easily fool many
Uh? This was so subtle I did not know what the change is. I asked Google what is the true Il-9 but found none. So: Il-8? Yes, it seems so. And with the soviet designation system, Il-9 would be a fighter derivative of the Il-8, have I understood all?
Title: Re: Red Star Wings
Post by: Logan Hartke on April 22, 2017, 12:34:14 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it's just an Ilyushin Il-10 with a Ju 87D cockpit. I think the combination looks better than either of the donors, and it fits as a "missing link" between the Il-2 and Il-10, hence the lower number, I take it.

Cheers,

Logan
Title: Re: Red Star Wings
Post by: AXOR on April 22, 2017, 08:43:05 PM
Warm greetings comrades and thank you !
In this GB all my images embodies an alternative history,where the western design of our current history is developed in the east in alt history,of course,some aspects may be identical on both sides.I'm not good at stories and because of this my work seems incomplete or without a specific logic...sometimes.
Regardig the designation system I chose to use the other numers to distinguish my models from known models...in some cases,as Logand pointed out,they can represent the missing link between two known types.
This last profile happened accidentally,in my outline folder those two ( IL-10 and JU-87) were next to each other and then it came up,after ten minutes Il-9 was ready for painting.
Title: Re: Red Star Wings
Post by: AXOR on April 26, 2017, 11:44:59 PM
Niiiice!  8)

Just a thought: a painted-on fake glass nose?  :P For old times' sake.

Maybe even in a sort-of "retro" livery. The one with the blue tail and black anti-glare panel.
EDIT: This scheme. Love the more vibrant blue. LINK! ([url]http://www.airliners.net/photo/Aeroflot/Tupolev-Tu-134A/2447242/L[/url])


A very good suggestion Moritz,thanks  :) :
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4163/34284813115_3682c24585_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Red Star Wings
Post by: ChernayaAkula on April 27, 2017, 04:28:23 AM
That's absolutely gorgeous!  :-*
Title: Re: Red Star Wings
Post by: taiidantomcat on April 27, 2017, 04:50:00 AM
Thats hot!  :-*
Title: Re: Red Star Wings
Post by: Brian da Basher on April 27, 2017, 06:46:01 AM
Sure is a looker! That retro livery is perfect!

Brian da Basher
Title: Re: Red Star Wings
Post by: Tophe on April 27, 2017, 10:41:11 AM
The glazed nose is very pleasant, reminding Soviet bombers.
While... what is its use on an airliner? In the capitalist (evil) side, this would make first class expensive seats with wonderful view forward and below but this must be different on a Soviet airliner for proletarian equal people... maybe this is for the leader and best party commanders, all right. ;)
Title: Re: Red Star Wings
Post by: Kelmola on April 27, 2017, 04:04:53 PM
The glazed nose is very pleasant, reminding Soviet bombers.
While... what is its use on an airliner?
Read from somewhere that in true Cold War mindset, all Soviet airliners were mandated to be convertible to makeshift bombers as necessary so that they could still be used to bomb the imperalist lackeys after all the real bombers were nuked or shot down...
Title: Re: Red Star Wings
Post by: ChernayaAkula on April 28, 2017, 04:05:44 AM
The glazed nose is very pleasant, reminding Soviet bombers.
While... what is its use on an airliner? <...>

Because of great size of glorious Motherland, radio beacons weren't avaliable everywhere. So airliners transporting industrious workers to their well-deserved holidays had glazed noses, which allowed navigation via terrain features or calculating drift by using reference lines in the flat panels in the nose.
Title: Re: Red Star Wings
Post by: LemonJello on May 02, 2017, 08:08:51 PM
Comrade AXOR! We of The Committee of State Sanctioned Modelling, Alternative History and Tractor Carburettor Production are in awe of the genius and dedication of your design bureau.  This design is sure to fill our workers' hearts with pride and desire to travel across our great nation while also creating envy and jealousy in the poor proletariat held under the unfair yoke of the so-called capitalist "free" Western countries.

I see that your latest submission has drawn the curiosity of the Subcommittee for Decal Solution Quality Control and Tire Pressure Regulating of The Committee of State Sanctioned Modelling, Alternative History and Tractor Carburettor Production:

(http://www.toxel.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/pinupsochi01.jpg)

Вперед в будущее!
Title: Re: Red Star Wings
Post by: AXOR on May 07, 2017, 01:32:59 AM
Thanks guys  :)
Let's continue...today we present Yakovlev Yak-5b,the glorious fighter !

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4171/34398559421_13b795eefd_b.jpg)

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4166/34367763892_d5e5979554_b.jpg)


Title: Re: Red Star Wings
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 07, 2017, 04:04:00 AM
Hmmmm...

(http://i60.fastpic.ru/big/2013/1029/e8/7d7d2291d8688f69358805b98b5240e8.jpg)
Title: Re: Red Star Wings
Post by: AXOR on May 07, 2017, 07:17:20 PM
Yes Greg,in that picture is the pre-production model,only fifteen were built.
The main production version had another engine and a revised tail for better stability.
 ;D

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4186/34143460270_f6bb8b1eb9_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Red Star Wings
Post by: AXOR on May 07, 2017, 10:22:17 PM
Lavochkin La-13,fighter based on Messerschmitt P-1111 project :

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4190/34398559481_76a7e88cdc_b.jpg)



Title: Re: Red Star Wings
Post by: Tophe on May 08, 2017, 01:31:49 AM
Yes Greg,in that picture is the pre-production model,only fifteen were built.
The main production version had another engine and a revised tail for better stability.
 ;D
Wonderful illustration of what the Soviet transformation has been. :-*
Title: Re: Red Star Wings
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 08, 2017, 02:09:33 AM
 :)
Title: Re: Red Star Wings
Post by: Old Wombat on May 08, 2017, 10:40:24 PM
The Sovietised Spit looks really good! :) :)

What did you use for the nose & tail? ???

My knowledge of Soviet aircraft is rather limited.
Title: Re: Red Star Wings
Post by: AXOR on May 08, 2017, 11:18:21 PM
Thanks  :)
The Sovietised Spit looks really good! :) :)

What did you use for the nose & tail? ???

My knowledge of Soviet aircraft is rather limited.
Yak 3 nose and tail .

Title: Re: Red Star Wings
Post by: Tophe on May 08, 2017, 11:33:02 PM
Yes Greg,in that picture is the pre-production model,only fifteen were built.
The main production version had another engine and a revised tail for better stability.
I have heard of the Yak-55 single-seat twin-plane (port 5b/1 without cockpit, starboard 5b/2), I could try to present it with bitmap change but it would me more simple for you AXOR if you have a vectorial source. Tell me if you won't make it. (This is important historically: this was the winner of the war)... ;)
Title: Re: Red Star Wings
Post by: AXOR on May 09, 2017, 12:23:19 AM
Hi Cristophe. :)
For my linedrawings I use Paint.NET,so I don't have a vectorial drawing for Yak and Spit,but I could try a top view with Yak-55 as you described it.
Title: Re: Red Star Wings
Post by: Old Wombat on May 09, 2017, 12:52:15 AM
Thanks  :)
The Sovietised Spit looks really good! :) :)

What did you use for the nose & tail? ???

My knowledge of Soviet aircraft is rather limited.
Yak 3 nose and tail .

Thanks! :)

I may try to do one in 3D some day.
Title: Re: Red Star Wings
Post by: AXOR on May 12, 2017, 12:35:08 AM
In an alternative history Su-250 Bulkhead would be the equivalent of Su-25.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4156/34210070110_583510dc9a_b.jpg)

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4193/34596120135_7bf31cb3ca_b.jpg)



Title: Re: Red Star Wings
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 12, 2017, 02:46:22 AM
 :)
Title: Re: Red Star Wings
Post by: taiidantomcat on May 12, 2017, 08:09:00 PM
Great look to it  :-*
Title: Re: Red Star Wings
Post by: Tophe on May 13, 2017, 03:21:56 PM
I have heard of the Yak-55 single-seat twin-plane (port 5b/1 without cockpit, starboard 5b/2), I could try to present it with bitmap change but it would me more simple for you AXOR if you have a vectorial source. Tell me if you won't make it. (This is important historically: this was the winner of the war)... ;)
Here is what I had in mind. Thanks again!
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/SpitYak2_profil2.JPG)
Title: Re: Red Star Wings
Post by: AXOR on May 29, 2017, 11:16:34 PM
MiG-17 SNF,ground attack version with side monted cannons and four UB-16-57 launchers.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4196/34836854971_e1edbcf0f9_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Red Star Wings
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 30, 2017, 01:59:39 AM
 :)
Title: Re: Red Star Wings
Post by: apophenia on May 30, 2017, 02:51:17 AM
That MiG-17 SNF is very nice ... although your Yak-Spit was very tasty too  :)
Title: Re: Red Star Wings
Post by: Brian da Basher on June 11, 2017, 02:47:26 AM
That MiG-17 SNF is very nice ... although your Yak-Spit was very tasty too  :)

Oh my yes and the camo is not only perfect for it, but pure eye-candy too!

Once again, comrade Axor, you have demonstrated that no scheming capitalist parasite can come close to the excellence of Soviet engineering! May you receive endless plaudits from the proletariat and an Order of Lenin along with a substantial increase in your vodka ration!

Brian da Basherski
Title: Re: Red Star Wings
Post by: pigflyer on June 11, 2017, 10:22:49 PM
MiG 17 = excellent!   La 5b, this is proof that the best looking aircraft in the world can all be improved only by superb Soviet design and build, and this deserves
many awards and much vodka.   
It is of course known that Comrade Axorski only does such work for a love of the motherland, and therefore would not want any awards or vodka.

 :P