Beyond The Sprues

Current and Finished Projects => Physical Models => Aero-space => Topic started by: ScranJ51 on February 15, 2021, 01:30:36 PM

Title: Aussie Vigilante
Post by: ScranJ51 on February 15, 2021, 01:30:36 PM: Have 2, so why not make one an Aussie:

RA-5C

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50944434263_a528b2635b_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kBMxqT)AUS RA-5C-1 (https://flic.kr/p/2kBMxqT) by David Freeman (https://www.flickr.com/photos/153018533@N06/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50945232792_54f78c7752_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kBRCNC)AUS RA-5C-2 (https://flic.kr/p/2kBRCNC) by David Freeman (https://www.flickr.com/photos/153018533@N06/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50945233022_281637ed7c_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kBRCSA)AUS RA-5C-3 (https://flic.kr/p/2kBRCSA) by David Freeman (https://www.flickr.com/photos/153018533@N06/), on Flickr

Recce bird with 4 tanks plus an AAR Probe. Note also the modification to allow carriage of an ALQ-131 ECM pod on the port "chin".

Markings to commemorate the Series 2 A8 aircraft - Mk 21 Beaufighters of WW2 - in this case "Barren Joey" of 31 Squadron
Title: Re: Aussie Vigilante
Post by: finsrin on February 15, 2021, 04:20:51 PM: Color scheme is pleasant change from 60s - 70s scheme. Looks more modern/menacing this way. :smiley:
Title: Re: Aussie Vigilante
Post by: Volkodav on February 15, 2021, 09:06:14 PM: Very nice
Title: Re: Aussie Vigilante
Post by: GTX_Admin on February 16, 2021, 01:49:36 AM: :smiley:
Title: Re: Aussie Vigilante
Post by: ChernayaAkula on February 16, 2021, 04:42:04 AM: Looks great in those colours. :smiley:

The planform view always reminds me of the Foxbat. Hmmm, Viggie with AWG-9 and AIM-54s as a long-range interceptor?
Title: Re: Aussie Vigilante
Post by: Kerick on February 16, 2021, 10:40:07 AM: Quote from: finsrin on February 15, 2021, 04:20:51 PM
Color scheme is pleasant change from 60s - 70s scheme. Looks more modern/menacing this way. :smiley:

I agree there! Makes me wonder what a conformal fuel tank would look like.
Title: Re: Aussie Vigilante
Post by: elmayerle on February 16, 2021, 10:52:13 AM: Quote from: ChernayaAkula on February 16, 2021, 04:42:04 AM
Looks great in those colours. :smiley:

The planform view always reminds me of the Foxbat. Hmmm, Viggie with AWG-9 and AIM-54s as a long-range interceptor?
Perhaps a "simple" twin-engined version of the NAR-349, possibly with PW1120s or F414s replacing the J79s?
Title: Re: Aussie Vigilante
Post by: elmayerle on February 16, 2021, 11:37:43 AM: Looks beautiful!! ISTR that the Vigilante has a retractable refueling probe pretty close to where you have your non-retractable one.
Title: Re: Aussie Vigilante
Post by: Buzzbomb on February 16, 2021, 11:56:55 AM: Nice colours.
Title: Re: Aussie Vigilante
Post by: ScranJ51 on February 17, 2021, 07:02:46 AM: Elmayerle,

Yes, the probe was retractable - but the kit has it as an add on and it covers a small hole..........

ChernayaAkula,

You know what - great idea! Watch this space ;) ;)

Kerick,

Why a conformal tank? In making the interceptor version, I'll assume that the internal bomb bay (where Vigilante's carried the "special weapons") is used for fuel thereby freeing up the pylons. :smiley:
Title: Re: Aussie Vigilante
Post by: elmayerle on February 17, 2021, 09:07:46 AM: Why not repurpose the canoe to carry AIM-54s in a semi-conformal arrangement?
Title: Re: Aussie Vigilante
Post by: ScranJ51 on February 17, 2021, 01:56:58 PM: yes - one option.

Working on a few possibilities

:smiley: ;)
Title: Re: Aussie Vigilante
Post by: elmayerle on February 17, 2021, 11:23:16 PM: Perhaps also extending the canoe to forward of the nose gear as on the NAR-349.
Title: Re: Aussie Vigilante
Post by: GTX_Admin on February 18, 2021, 02:21:53 AM: Some kind of inspiration:

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(https://combatace.com/applications/downloads/interface/legacy/screenshot.php?path=/monthly_2021_02/img00497.JPG.4a839c0a915126ed8533aa3e749f2d42.JPG)
(https://combatace.com/applications/downloads/interface/legacy/screenshot.php?path=/monthly_2021_02/img00498.JPG.b7a6d555e6fa609ad7d1e986f0a2d66c.JPG)
(https://combatace.com/applications/downloads/interface/legacy/screenshot.php?path=/monthly_2021_02/img00499.JPG.a867e20adf2f7c408715bbf9cdb780bb.JPG)

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Title: Re: Aussie Vigilante
Post by: ScranJ51 on February 18, 2021, 04:54:26 PM: Thanks GTX - am starting to look at configurations :D

Kerick - did some digging.

Standard RA-5C carried 1430 US Gallons in the wings plus 1285 in the fuselage. The internal configuration in the attack version with Nuclear weapons was 1 x Special weapon and some additional fuel:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50955479146_f508459841_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kCL9FU)North_American_A-5A_internal_bomb_bay (https://flic.kr/p/2kCL9FU) by David Freeman (https://www.flickr.com/photos/153018533@N06/), on Flickr

If the weapon is discounted an additional 885 Gallons in three tanks could be carried, giving a total of 3,600 US Gallons. In this configuration, subsonic high altitude combat radius was 1,310NM.

In the configuration of my model with the 4 x 400 Gallon tanks, the fuel load becomes an extra 1,600 Gallons - around .44 of the internal.

So, adding .44 of 1,310NM would give a radius of around 1800NM.

No need for conformal tanks........ :smiley:
Title: Re: Aussie Vigilante
Post by: GTX_Admin on February 19, 2021, 02:04:50 AM: I don't think the Vig' would make a dogfighter but as an interceptor/missilier....hmmm, might need to do some more research myself on this idea. 8)
Title: Re: Aussie Vigilante
Post by: ScranJ51 on February 19, 2021, 04:07:10 AM: Agreed GTX - will NOT be carrying AIM-9's.

Am looking at AIM-54 and AMRAAM's ;)