Beyond The Sprues
Current and Finished Projects => Physical Models => Aero-space => Topic started by: KiwiZac on August 10, 2016, 03:10:14 PM
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I got myself a Lindberg 1/48 Pogo as an early birthday present and started it on Sunday, and man am I having fun!
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ZacYates/just%20models/91DBF44B-B07D-4934-860D-36BC24F48DCA_zpsy7c2qwdk.jpg) (http://s15.photobucket.com/user/ZacYates/media/just%20models/91DBF44B-B07D-4934-860D-36BC24F48DCA_zpsy7c2qwdk.jpg.html)
The cockpit has a very small opening, which I expanded - original on the left.
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ZacYates/just%20models/947A17D1-FB25-41E7-8BDF-664CA131A874_zpsa6avrwog.jpg) (http://s15.photobucket.com/user/ZacYates/media/just%20models/947A17D1-FB25-41E7-8BDF-664CA131A874_zpsa6avrwog.jpg.html)
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ZacYates/just%20models/0FAC8918-5874-448F-A07B-37AD987322BA_zpsa0dxedjf.jpg) (http://s15.photobucket.com/user/ZacYates/media/just%20models/0FAC8918-5874-448F-A07B-37AD987322BA_zpsa0dxedjf.jpg.html)
OOB you get a seat and a pilot shape. I've binned both and assembled a new one! Random seat from spares, a Revell-Monogram P-51 tub and panel (cut down), R-M P-39 stick, and extra side panels. I also added some blanking plates to the nose intake thingy.
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ZacYates/just%20models/6ED99758-ADD1-4ED5-A2ED-2C12CBCF7686_zpsm8vkxgls.jpg) (http://s15.photobucket.com/user/ZacYates/media/just%20models/6ED99758-ADD1-4ED5-A2ED-2C12CBCF7686_zpsm8vkxgls.jpg.html)
4pm Wednesday 10 August. About to apply red tip stripes to the props!
Backstory is done and will be posted with the completed build :thumbsup:
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Neato,,, a Pogo build !
Big interior improvement :)
passing thoughts: Wonder how those props would fit/work as contra-rotating pushers on 1/72 B-36. Wonder how those wings would work on conventional jet fighter.
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This will be worth watching :) :)
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Thanks FAAMAN, I have high hopes for this one!
finsrin - great idea! The contraprop mechanism works and I plan to keep it that way. The working features are one thing I love about some older kits.
This is a kit with a TON of room to improve - cockpit, intakes, exhausts - but I'll keep it to a minimum in the interests of speed and sanity.
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Up to applying paint!
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ZacYates/just%20models/D6D9F8A5-A454-48E6-9F10-3F065879554B_zpsbfakhako.jpg) (http://s15.photobucket.com/user/ZacYates/media/just%20models/D6D9F8A5-A454-48E6-9F10-3F065879554B_zpsbfakhako.jpg.html)
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That is looking very nice, love the cockpit work. Have a similar one going, but you're going to get there first! Will be watching for more.
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Nice the props look super
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Good lord that was fast!! :o
Your props an' all look great so far, kudos!!! :) :)
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Thanks folks! The biggest issue now is waiting for the tiptanks to arrive. Until then:
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ZacYates/just%20models/AA7648FB-778C-4310-B9C6-78DA3DE3742C_zps1moyxd6w.jpg) (http://s15.photobucket.com/user/ZacYates/media/just%20models/AA7648FB-778C-4310-B9C6-78DA3DE3742C_zps1moyxd6w.jpg.html)
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Woh! Sweet! 8)
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One of these in Reno Racer style scheme would be interesting...
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The biggest issue now is waiting for the tip tanks to arrive.
What are you going to use as replacement for the kit parts?
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Not an awful idea, Greg!
Jeff - now, that would be telling! I'd like that to remain a surprise.
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Zac: How did you get the nice straight markings on the prop tips? Red decal stripes over white paint?
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Ten points! Exactly that: masked the tips, untold coats of Tamiya XF-2, Micro-Set, cutdown Airfix Lancaster codes, more Set.
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Ten points! Exactly that: masked the tips, untold coats of Tamiya XF-2, Micro-Set, cutdown Airfix Lancaster codes, more Set.
I thought so. I tried the same technique on my Rockwell Canadian but the final product is not as good as yours.
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Nice,,, was wondering same on props.
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Thanks for the kind words! The canopy was painted today but that's it, no photos.
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Seeing your Pogo build is inspiring. Kit had dropped off my thought radar, its back now.
Have come up with various 1/72 build concepts. Some somewhat sensible and some not so sensible.
Posted purchase of two Pogo and others in Ooops.
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;D Do you, by chance, already have 1/72 bits like those you're posting to me? For your builds, of course!
I've mentioned my wife's....displeasure with the Pogo as a type. I showed her the most recent photo, rather than risk bringing it inside to show her and it meeting with an accident.
Me: "The props even spin!"
She: "Well then, they can spin it away..."
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I've mentioned my wife's....displeasure with the Pogo as a type.
More of a XFV Salmon supporter is she?
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/31/Lockheed_XFV-1_on_ground_bw.jpg)
;)
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From memory I showed her the Salmon and I had to apologise.
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OK, she has a Vertical-Alignment VTOL phobia ... What have you been doing to the poor girl, Zac! :-\
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I don't know if it's that, she just has very firm views when it comes to aircraft aesthetics!
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OK, she has a Vertical-Alignment VTOL phobia ... What have you been doing to the poor girl, Zac! :-\
;D
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I told her last night that you all have concerns for her wellbeing given that she cares for neither Pogo nor Salmon. Unfortunately there's no emoji that I can see here to properly express her reaction.
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I told her last night that you all have concerns for her wellbeing given that she cares for neither Pogo nor Salmon. Unfortunately there's no emoji that I can see here to properly express her reaction.
Does this image capture the moment?:
(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/static/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2012/8/9/1344511024523/McKayla-Maroney--008.jpg?w=620&q=55&auto=format&usm=12&fit=max&s=0da433483142f8d8a389fa55f29256d5)
:)
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I'm assuming it wasn't this
(http://www.bdoutdoors.com/forums/styles/bdoutdoors/images/smilies/Pogo_Stick.gif)
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She laughed at the photo, and was a little bemused by the emoji!
The new bits are here! They're......a bit bigger than I expected....some head-scratching and a lot of dry-fitting/cutting will precede the next photo update!
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Head-scratching, dryfitting, cutting. Here's a before-and-after:
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ZacYates/just%20models/1D3450EF-E543-4EF6-A2A9-E4354D2B6FD0_zps7tzxoqf7.jpg) (http://s15.photobucket.com/user/ZacYates/media/just%20models/1D3450EF-E543-4EF6-A2A9-E4354D2B6FD0_zps7tzxoqf7.jpg.html)
I read the service Pogo was to feature cannon/guns or unguided rockets in the tip pods. When I found the Northrop F-89D had such rocket pods I knew I could do it. I didn't realise how massive the pods were, though! My altered Pogo pod is the lower of the two in the photo. Half rockets, half fuel.
If I'm good with my time management tomorrow it should be finished. In the meantime, here's what I'm going for:
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ZacYates/just%20models/60B210C9-992D-4BF4-8527-F9B6AF6516B4_zpsuq5luxkm.jpg) (http://s15.photobucket.com/user/ZacYates/media/just%20models/60B210C9-992D-4BF4-8527-F9B6AF6516B4_zpsuq5luxkm.jpg.html)
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Oh WOW !!! 8) 8) 8) 8)
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I didn't realise how massive the pods were, though!
I don't think it is so much that the pods are big (though they aren't insignificant) but more that the Pogo was quite small in comparison.
Convair XFY Pogo:
Length: 32 ft 3 in (9.8 m)
Wingspan: 27 ft 8 in (8.4 m)
Northrop F-89:
Length: 53 ft 9 1⁄2 in (16.40 m)
Wingspan: 59 ft 8 1⁄2 in (18.20 m)
Imagine if you had gone with the F-89H pods:
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ae/Northrop_F-89H_with_AIM-4_Falcon_missiles.jpg/1510px-Northrop_F-89H_with_AIM-4_Falcon_missiles.jpg)
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Funny you should mention that, Greg! Bear that in mind when you read the backstory.
Thanks FAAMAN! I'm rather pleased with it myself!
I really rushed and still didn't finish! Current state of play (taken at a deliberately strange angle):
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ZacYates/just%20models/555CAFFE-AD4A-4490-8018-38F2BAA8F17B_zps8fe4xpfb.jpg) (http://s15.photobucket.com/user/ZacYates/media/just%20models/555CAFFE-AD4A-4490-8018-38F2BAA8F17B_zps8fe4xpfb.jpg.html)
I may have to dash off to watch a DH Mosquito fly this weekend (https://www.facebook.com/Avspecs/videos/1328657340501029/) ( :-* ), if not then I should be able to finish up in short order. As well as finding and applying decals I still need to add the gear doors, and probably repaint the rocket noses.
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Two words, "Lucky Sod" ;D To see a Mozzie fly, very 8) cool indeed :)
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Cool! 8)
Looks like a cartoon character from that angle. ;)
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Thanks OW! To be fair, the standard Pogo looks pretty goofy!
Two words, "Lucky Sod" ;D To see a Mozzie fly, very 8) cool indeed :)
To be fair, this'll be my second (https://youtu.be/jTFQmrNBz8E) 8)
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That was just beautiful! :-*
I hate you! >:D
(Not really! ;) )
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So I shouldn't tell you I saw it fly at another airshow about 5mth later? 8)
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Don't push it, sunshine! >:D
;)
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Oh Ya, like seeing those F-89 pods put to good use. It works.
Based around periphery of country, Delta Dash leaps into action blasting bad guy bombers out of sky !
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I had a dream last night where I decided the grey/white wasn't working and repainted it green. Was so relieved when I woke up!
First time I've actually dreamt about building/working on a model...
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Ok, you need help...
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There are hobby professionals that can help you Kiwi ;)
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It then becomes a question of whether I want help... :-\
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Crazy & lovin' it! ;D
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The last bits went on today, followed by a gloss coat in advance of decals. Hopefully she'll be done this time tomorrow!
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Looking forward to it!! :)
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Convair FY/F-3 Delta Dash
The Convair Delta Dash fleet defence fighter could easily have been a flash-in-the-pan abortion in the history of aircraft design, but instead it would go on to earn a deserved reputation for speed and manoeuvrability.
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ZacYates/just%20models/FF519857-3E38-4D85-89E4-F9CA6E7B79BB_zpsrz1fb5mi.jpg) (http://s15.photobucket.com/user/ZacYates/media/just%20models/FF519857-3E38-4D85-89E4-F9CA6E7B79BB_zpsrz1fb5mi.jpg.html)
The revolutionary XFY design, competing with Lockheed’s XFV for a United States Navy contract, had delta wings and three-bladed contra-rotating propellers powered by a 5,500 hp (4,100 kW) Allison YT40-A-16 turboprop engine. It sat on four wheels, one on the trailing edge of each wing and vertical stabiliser, and the pilot had to climb a ladder to reach the nearly two-storey-tall cockpit. The aircraft was intended to provide a ship-borne VTOL defence for naval vessels beyond the reach of an aircraft carrier.
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ZacYates/just%20models/8438C7F7-8481-4A8E-8B07-8EACDBD30BE8_zpsdka9k9e9.jpg) (http://s15.photobucket.com/user/ZacYates/media/just%20models/8438C7F7-8481-4A8E-8B07-8EACDBD30BE8_zpsdka9k9e9.jpg.html)
Landing the XFY-1 prototype (BuAer 138649) was difficult as the pilot had to look over his shoulder while carefully working the throttle to land. Another issue found during flight testing by Convair test pilot and Marine reservist James F “Skeets” Coleman was that due to the XFY's lightweight design, and the lack of spoilers and air brakes, the aircraft lacked the ability to slow down and stop efficiently after moving at high speeds. Otherwise, performance was comparable to the more conventional designs of the day.
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ZacYates/just%20models/96F0DB62-B6FF-4251-B8B3-66877E71C01C_zpseo7ie86n.jpg) (http://s15.photobucket.com/user/ZacYates/media/just%20models/96F0DB62-B6FF-4251-B8B3-66877E71C01C_zpseo7ie86n.jpg.html)
Although experiments were conducted with prone-pilot cockpits, the solution to the landing issue was found to be a simple one: a rearview mirror was installed above the windscreen. To ease the speed issues, perforated speed brakes were installed on both the upper and lower inner wing surfaces. These fixes – implemented in the third XFY-1, BuAer 138650, which had previously been a static testbed – were proven to remedy these issues during a series of test flights by Skeets Coleman during March 1955. By now the aircraft had been nicknamed “Pogo” by Convair engineering staff, although the company gave it the more dignified moniker “Delta Dash” to fit in with its interceptor designs serving with the US Air Force.
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ZacYates/just%20models/D54B03FA-2FB1-4C60-AAC4-24624AA8357B_zpslo1wzgwi.jpg) (http://s15.photobucket.com/user/ZacYates/media/just%20models/D54B03FA-2FB1-4C60-AAC4-24624AA8357B_zpslo1wzgwi.jpg.html)
Now designated XFY-2, both 138650 and the newly-modified 138649 were flown together at Edwards AFB for the first time in April ahead of a much-publicised fly-off against the sole complete Lockheed XFV. However the trials were never to occur as the Lockheed was incapable of vertical take-off due to insufficient engine power, and that company announced the cancellation of its VTOL programme in late June.
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ZacYates/just%20models/59AF0B7E-474A-4AEC-A603-77BAC459E77D_zpsrhoip1vv.jpg) (http://s15.photobucket.com/user/ZacYates/media/just%20models/59AF0B7E-474A-4AEC-A603-77BAC459E77D_zpsrhoip1vv.jpg.html)
On 1 August the USN formally placed an order for 100 FY-2 Delta Dashes. These service examples were armed with either four 20mm Colt Mk.12 cannon or 48 2.75in folding-fin rockets, the change being accomplished by use of so-called “quick change” pods on the wingtips. The rear portion of each pod was a fixed fuel tank. The service aircraft also had longer-stroke undercarriage legs (to absorb the movement of the ship and heavy landings) which were now retractable.
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ZacYates/just%20models/519AF6B1-E4EC-4985-8A31-979370C86779_zpsagu4gnr5.jpg) (http://s15.photobucket.com/user/ZacYates/media/just%20models/519AF6B1-E4EC-4985-8A31-979370C86779_zpsagu4gnr5.jpg.html)
The Delta Dashes were assigned to entirely new units: VFD-1 through -6, the VFD designation standing for Fixed-wing Fleet Defence in naval parlance. Each squadron would serve with a Fleet, rather than aboard a single ship or Naval Air Station as with standard fixed-wing units, with the aircraft and pilots of the squadron being dispersed among the cruisers, destroyers and frigates of the Fleet. Each Delta Dash-capable ship received a “clam-shell” protective housing for the aircraft which acted as a custom-sized hangar, and provision was made to house three pilots and two maintenance crews.
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ZacYates/just%20models/809F6B02-6A10-4717-AC98-D227B847094F_zpskun4wba9.jpg) (http://s15.photobucket.com/user/ZacYates/media/just%20models/809F6B02-6A10-4717-AC98-D227B847094F_zpskun4wba9.jpg.html)
Although landing vertically on a pitching deck at sea was difficult and a handful of examples were lost in early accidents, USN aviators soon became comfortable with the procedure. As well as the nickname Pogo from the Lockheed testing days being used by pilots and crews, the aircraft’s unique stance on the ground led to FY-2 flying duties being called “sitting in the High Chair”. The type was also called “Blender” and “Mixmaster” due to the distinctive contraprop.
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ZacYates/just%20models/6174B224-8821-4352-88B3-EC84EA0BDE7C_zpsmhwifoil.jpg) (http://s15.photobucket.com/user/ZacYates/media/just%20models/6174B224-8821-4352-88B3-EC84EA0BDE7C_zpsmhwifoil.jpg.html)
As the aircraft entered active service Convair continued to tweak the design. In mid-1957 they tested the FY-3 Delta Dash, which forwent the quick-change pods in favour of fixed units housing the new Hughes Falcon guided missile. Similar to the installation on the Northrop F-89D Scorpion, the FY-3’s Falcons were stored in the streamlined pods and extended out when needed. Rather than purchase new aircraft the USN instead opted to have the existing FY-2 fleet modified to FY-3 standard.
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ZacYates/just%20models/67A6216C-C8B3-45F1-84CE-BA1496F1CF42_zpsxla71qem.jpg) (http://s15.photobucket.com/user/ZacYates/media/just%20models/67A6216C-C8B3-45F1-84CE-BA1496F1CF42_zpsxla71qem.jpg.html)
On 18 September 1962, under the Tri-Service aircraft designation system, the Delta Dash was redesignated F-3. Under the new system the surviving FY-2s became F-3Bs and the FY-3 became F-3Cs. By 1970 the last Delta Dashes had been replaced in US service by Hawker-Northrop AV-8B Sea Harriers.
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Great looking build there, Zac, & a good back-story to go with it! :) :)
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Damn fine work!! :) :)
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Thanks guys! I had a great time building it...even if the wife was encouraging the cats to destroy it...
I forgot to add that I added a splitter plate to the exhaust as well as nozzles as the gap was just empty all the way. Cut-down aileron from something plus two superglue caps! 8)
Many, many thanks to finsrin for the generous donation of F-89D wingtip pods. I don't know if I could've carried this off without them.
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With those wingtip pods, the Delta Dash should be able to take those cats with no problems ;)
Nice work and great backstory :)
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Fine touch on exhaust, would not thought of that.
Never would have thought of wing tip pods either. They look at home on Delta Dash.
Overall build and service history mesh like gears. :)
Now to do 1/350 USN ship build with Delta Dash and hanger onboard. Though 1/350 Delta Dash build would be a challenge.
Or whatever scale one cares for.........
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Beautiful work and back story. For grins, you could have had the Hawker-Northrop Sea Harrier as the FV-6C, a development of the XV-6A Kestrel.
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What everyone else said, brilliant!!! :) :) :) 8) 8) 8)
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One of your best Zac!
Would seem ideal for carrier landings...
Love your work on the prop tips!
Brian da Basher
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Thanks all! A fun build...even if it meant some weird looks from the other half!
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Zac, might I suggest a small tweak to further separate the FY-3 from FY-2? Replacement of the troublesome T40 engine with the improved T54 which shared the same improvements that the T56 did over the T38 but again had twin gas generators driving a combining gearbox.
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very nice