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« Reply #2550 on: June 03, 2020, 07:22:53 AM »
A quickie before continuing the story. The mid-'60s vintage Airfix Hampden Mk.III kit in 1/72nd was afflicted with some outline inaccuracies (and the detail crudities of the time). However, this venerable kit was the only available Hampden Mk.III until the advent of an offering by Valom in 2008 ...
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« Reply #2551 on: June 04, 2020, 12:40:01 AM »
Don't forget a Sea Defiance for the FAA!
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« Reply #2552 on: June 04, 2020, 03:12:07 AM »
 :smiley:
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« Reply #2553 on: June 04, 2020, 10:35:04 AM »
Don't forget a Sea Defiance for the FAA!

Thanks pt'. I was leaning that way but now I'm developing a variation of the Defiant theme for the FAA.

Is it obvious that I have no real plan? Yep, though so. BTW, most of these Defiant themes will be unrelated to one another (as far as backstory goes, at least).
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« Reply #2554 on: June 05, 2020, 02:43:43 AM »
One could probably use something such as this (below) to create one of your variations in plastic:

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« Reply #2555 on: June 05, 2020, 02:55:49 AM »
Lovin' those Hampdens!  :-*

<...> The mid-'60s vintage Airfix Hampden Mk.III kit in 1/72nd <...>

Would buy this one for the box-art in an instant, better Valom kit available or not.  :smiley:
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« Reply #2556 on: June 05, 2020, 04:58:33 AM »
Cheers folks! And now the story continues ...

Achtung! Schpitfeur!

The Zerstörer crews of II./ZG 76 were having a bad day. Having 'bounced' the Hampdens of No.44 and No.83 squadrons, they were at the receiving end of unexpected defensive armaments. But things were about to get even worse. As die Ketten regrouped into a Schwarm for an attack in force, an improbable cry came through the R/Ts - "Achtung! Schpitfeur!". Spitfires? Over Hamburg? How was that possible? Before the threat warning could even be processed, a 'finger-four' of elliptical-winged fighters screamed through the Schwarm. One Bf 110C dropped out of formation with its starboard engine smoking. Another Messerschmitt fluttered downwards apparently out of control - Scheisse! Diese mörderischen britischen Schweine!

The remaining Zerstörers scattered, scrambling to reform as Kettes. Few re-established their defensive pairings. The first group of RAF fighters climbed to catch another two Bf 110s from below. To the east, the main force of British fighters were wheeling about other Messerschmitts which had formed a 'Lufbery Wheel' to give their rear gunners an advantage. This defensive circle was a disaster. The faster British fighters dove on the formation too fast for the Luftwaffe gunners to draw a proper bead. The Brits repeatedly made their diving passes, then zoomed-climbed to attack from below. After losing a further four Bf 110s, the Staffelkapitän bowed to the inevitable and gave the order for the Messerschmitts to break formation and dive.

Jeder ist sich selbst der Nächste!

Diving for home proved the best choice for the Zerstörers. No further II./ZG 76 aircraft were lost over Hamburg on 16 November 1940. But the Luftwaffe was now facing a new challenge. Enemy escort fighters were now being encountered over the Vaterland! The Bf 110s had been tried and found wanting. The Jagdgeschwaders were still smarting from the Kanalkampf but some of those single-seat Bf 109s would have to be recalled to defend the Reich. Otherwise, escorted by fighters, the British terrorflieger could range unchallenged over Germany, dropping their deadly payloads at will. The balance of the air war had just changed.

Despite II./ZG 76 crew after-action reports and the conclusions of the Luftwaffe's Technische Intelligenz wonks, no Spitfires had appeared over Hamburg on the morning of 16 November 1940. With its range of only 415 miles, a Spitfire Mk.I could fly from southern England to Hamburg but it would have no fuel left for combat let along flying home again. [1] Still, the German misidentification was understandable. The Luftwaffe had just had its first, traumatic encounter with the RAF's new Boulton Paul Paladin long-range fighter. Dubbed the 'Spitfiant' by RAF wags, the Paladin was a hybrid - combining the simple-to-construct Boulton Paul Defiant fuselage (and empennage) with the superior, elliptical wings from the Supermarine Spitfire. [2] The result was a fighter with near Spitfire-like handling but a much more capacious fuselage.

In that Defiant-derived fuselage, the pilot sat sandwiched between petrol tanks. In front of him was the main tank holding 80 Imperial Gallons - in itself, just shy of the Spitfire's total fuel capacity. Behind the pilot was the long-range tank holding another 100 gallons. At its normal cruising speed, the Paladin had a range of 880 miles - more than enough for its 735 mile round-trip excursion from RAF Coltishall in Norfolk to Hamburg. At dawn on 16 November 1940, the Paladins of No.255 Squadron RAF were bearing due east from the Norfolk coast accompanied by turretless Defiants with navigators sat in their rear cockpits. The fighters rendezvoused with the Hampdens just south-west of Heligoland. Turning south-east, the formation could follow simply follow the glimmering Elbe down to Hamburg. The rest is history ...

Top The prototype Boulton Paul Paladin as delivered to the A&AEE at RAF Martlesham Heath for trials. Note that this aircraft had the unsatisfactory rear tank fuel filler cap on top of the fuselage. At this point. the prototype lacked an R/T mast and antenna. Like the first half dozen Paladin Mk.Is, the fixed tailwheel is a standard Defiant component and only a single rear-vision panel is fitted.

Bottom A Boulton Paul Paladin Mk.I of No.255 Squadron, RAF as flown over Hamburg on 16 November 1940. The pilot of this aircraft, W/O Ernie Mayne, claimed a 'probable' for one Messerschmitt Bf 110C on that day. [3]

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[1] To be fair, the Spitfire had been designed as a short-range interceptor. A range of 415 miles based on 85 Imperial Gallons of petrol was all that the Spitfire required to fulfil that original role.

[2] The wing sets were supplied by the Castle Bromwich Aeroplane Factory outside Birmingham. (Castle Bromwich being less than 25 miles by road from the Boulton Paul Aircraft Factory at Pendeford, Wolverhampton.)

[3] 39-year-old 'Pops' Mayne (an RFC veteran) had flown Spitfires with No.74 (F) Squadron from RAF Hornchurch at the start of the Battle of Britain. Despite being stood down from combat due to his age, Mayne was able to join No.255 Squadron - initially in a 'non-combat' capacity - when it first reformed at RAF Kirton in Lincolnshire.
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Re: Apophenia's Offerings
« Reply #2557 on: June 05, 2020, 09:43:34 AM »
Will there be a later model sporting the windscreen and teardrop shaped blown canopy as seen on the later marks of Spitfire such as the Griffon powered F.Mk24?
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« Reply #2558 on: June 05, 2020, 07:00:21 PM »
Great story & concept, mate! :-* 8)
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« Reply #2559 on: June 06, 2020, 02:41:03 AM »
Jeff: Yes, there will be a 'bubble top' coming ... but involving a variation on my Defiant theme  :D

Cheers Venerable Vombatus! Not mentioned is that the Defiant fuselage has a cut-out for the wing. A new fuselage infill section was required to mate the separate Spitfire wing panels to. The official term for this new, stiffened centre-section stub was the 'Wing Horizontal Integration to Fuselage and Fatigue-Engineered Reinforcement Yoke' (short-form, WHIFFERY)  ;)
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« Reply #2560 on: June 06, 2020, 04:06:21 AM »
Any chance of a carrier based Sea Defiant?  Inclusion of turret welcomed too.
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« Reply #2561 on: June 06, 2020, 09:33:06 AM »
Any chance of a carrier based Sea Defiant?  Inclusion of turret welcomed too.


There's an FAA variant coming but I like the idea of an actual, turreted Sea Defiant too. Might have to tackle that later. (Maybe as a Roc alternative? That's not too far off from RW Boulton Paul offerings.)

[Edit] Just remembered that I had already done a Sea Defiant  :-[
 -- http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=351.msg151117#msg151117

Going back to the Paladin, that's a word most of us associate with the champion of a cause. Something I didn't know was that paladin in French can simply mean 'warrior'. Seems a propos
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Improving the Breed - the Boulton Paul Paladin Mk.II

The Paladin Mk.IA featured minor equipment changes so the first major modification came with the cannon-armed Paladin Mk.II. This variant also introduced the 1,175 hp Rolls-Royce Merlin XII engine. In all other respects, the Mk.II was identical to the Mk.IA (indeed, many of the early Mk.IIs had been laid down as Mk.IAs). As the new Paladin Mk.IIs arrived at RAF Coltishall, No. 255 Squadron's Mk.Is and Mk.IAs were sent to Maintenance Units. After repair and overhaul, the older aircraft were passed on to No. 249 Squadron at North Weald where the Paladins replaced Hurricanes.

Elements of No. 255 Squadron deployed as a 'lodger unit' with No. 691 Squadron at RAF Roborough (outside of Plymouth) [1] for operations against German forces in the west of France. The first mission from Roborough was a long one - an almost 650 miles flight to La Rochelle and back. Work had begun on huge U-Boat pens at La Rochelle in April. The goal of the mission was to escort Boston light bombers to the target and then the Paladins would strafe flak positions around the construction works. [2] Although no Luftwaffe fighters were encountered, the formation took losses - two Bostons fell to flak while one Paladin was shot down by the very AA position it was attacking.

Top Paladin Mk.II 'E' (N4145) 'City of Norwich' of No. 255 Squadron RAF. This presentation aircraft was the very one lost at La Rochelle on 10 May 1941. Note that the new fuselage band has been painted over the aircraft serial.

Beginning in the early Summer of 1941, No. 249 Squadron was selected to redeploy to Malta. The Paladins were launched from aircraft carriers for the flight to that beleaguered island. The squadron, flying out of Takali, operating as the first line of aerial defence. By this stage, Luftwaffe forces had withdrawn and the enemy in the air was the Regia Aeronautica. Fortunately, even heavily-ladened with fuel, the Paladins could best most Italian fighter. Soon, the Malta force was on the offensive. The first offensive operation by Paladins was a night escort mission covering Wellingtons raiding Taranto.

Some Paladins were also fitted with bomb racks for 'tip-and-run' raids on the Italian island of Pantelleria. It was while attacking the Marghana airfield on Pantelleria that No. 249's Paladin's made their name. Flying Paladin N4460, F/O George 'Buzz' Beurling shot down two Macchi C.202 fighters taking off at Marghana and destroyed another, unidentified Italian aircraft on the ground. 'Shark Bite', with its garish nose art and massive Vokes carburettor filter fairing, was probably the least attractive of all Paladins.

Bottom Paladin Mk.IIA (Tropical) 'F' (N4460) of No. 249 Squadron RAF, Takali, October 1942. This aircraft is finished in the Malta scheme of Dark Earth/Mid Stone over Azure Blue. Note the 'Malta mod.' - both 20 mm cannons have been replaced with twin .5-inch Brownings to save weight and expand ammunition capacity.

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[1] Former RNAS Roborough was taken over from the Royal Navy in late May 1941. No. 691 Sqn was a Coastal Command unit with mixed equipment - including some Defiants.

[2] Photo reconnaissance and local espionage had revealed that POW workers (mostly anti-Franco Spanish Civil War refugees) were on-site only at night. This prompted the daylight raid.
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« Reply #2562 on: June 07, 2020, 02:52:36 AM »
[Edit] Just remembered that I had already done a Sea Defiant  :-[
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Doh!  I forgot that one too.
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« Reply #2563 on: June 09, 2020, 04:30:17 AM »
Doh!  I forgot that one too.

I look at lots of stuff and then forget that I have. Its when you start forgetting things you've made that you start wondering what your synapses are doing with all their spare time  :o

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Aiming High - the Boulton Paul Defiant 'High Fighter'

In the Summer of 1941, Boulton Paul turned its attention to high-altitude fighter concepts. The prompt was Junkers Ju-86Ps flying over Britain at 41,000 feet or more. Some conceptual work was done on adapting the Paladin airframe for a mildly pressurised cockpit. [1] However, it seemed unlikely that the Paladin's wing would be sufficient to lift a high-altitude fighter to its 41,000 feet operating height. Attention then turned back to the original Defiant wing.

The Defiant wing had little more area than the Spitfire wings on the Paladin. However, the Defiant wing had separate outer panels. By simply designing extended-span outer panels, a high-altitude fighter could be created comparably quickly. The Wolverhampton design office considered their 'High Fighter' a Defiant conversion rather than a Paladin. And there was something to that ... but retaining the Defiant serial number was also something of a dodge. In doing so, Boulton Paul could claim that it was simply modifying a company demonstrator airframe for trials rather than creating a new aircraft which had yet to received Ministry of Aircraft Production approval.

Unfortunately for BP, by the time that their Defiant 'High Fighter' could demonstrate its abilities, prototypes of the extended-span Supermarine Spitfire Mk.VI were already flying. In many ways, the Defiant 'HF' was superior at high altitude [2] but the Spitfire Mk.VI was first, required minimal airframe modification, and, most importantly, had already been chosen for production by the RAF. In the end, all Boulton Paul gained was some pressure cockpit experience ... but at the cost of the ire of MAP officials.

Top Defiant 'High Fighter' conversion prototype in its experimental 'high-altitude blue' scheme. Note the extended-span outer wing panels. This aircraft was unarmed and carried neither 'ringed-P' prototype markings nor its RAF serial.

Last of the Breed - the Boulton Paul Paladin PR Mk.VI

With its long-range and relatively capacious fuselage, the potential for a photo-reconnaissance variant of the Paladin was obvious from the outset. The first were armed Paladin FR Mk.IIIs with F24 cameras in their rear fuselages. The first dedicated photo-reconnaissance variant was the Paladin PR Mk.VI. Unarmed, the Paladin PR Mk.VI was equipped with larger-format, longer-lensed F52 cameras. The Paladin PR Mk.VI employed D type 'wet' wings adding a further 66 Imperial Gallons to fuel load. Using a mid-sized slipper tank as well, the Paladin PR Mk.VI could photograph Königsberg. With the larger slipper tank, the aircraft could reach Tromsř.

Bottom A Merlin 61-powered Paladin PR Mk.VI photo-recce aircraft in standard, overall 'PR Blue' scheme and low-visibility national markings.

The long-range of the Paladin PR Mk.VI worked against it. Most photographic targets could be reached by PR Spitfires using the same 'wet' wings and slipper tanks. For the even longer range targets, the RAF had come to prefer the added safety margin provided by the twin-engine Mosquitos. As MAP looked to reduce the total number of airframes in production, their gaze naturally fell upon Boulton Paul. Orders for Paladins were curtailed and production wound down at Wolverhampton. However, Boulton Paul was down but not out ...

(To be continued ...)

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[1] This system was devised using information gleaned from work done by RAE's High Altitude Research Department in the RAE pressure chamber at Farnborough.

[2] Some of that 'superiority' was based on performance estimates. Boulton Paul's request for the supply of a high-altitude rated 1,415 hp Merlin 47 engine with 4-bladed Rotol propeller was never granted.
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« Reply #2564 on: June 10, 2020, 01:27:25 AM »
you start wondering what your synapses are doing with all their spare time

There's a scary thought...
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« Reply #2565 on: June 10, 2020, 01:28:38 AM »
Using the Classic Airframes box art as inspiration, I wonder about a US Paladin... ;)
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« Reply #2566 on: June 10, 2020, 01:35:53 AM »
A RN FAA Sea Paladin might also be of interest.  Longer range etc?  Maybe even re-introduce an observer?
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« Reply #2567 on: June 12, 2020, 03:42:00 AM »
some of your Paladin ideas aren't too far from truth - see here:  http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=5762.new#new
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« Reply #2568 on: June 12, 2020, 04:28:02 AM »
you start wondering what your synapses are doing with all their spare time


In my case, trying to work out which route the lorries carrying the wings for the Paladins would take, from the CBAF, to Boulton Paul at Pendeford . . . yes I do know the area that well . . .  :-[
Of course nowadays the lorries take the reverse route, from the new JLR jaguar engine plant on the the northern edge of what was Pendeford Aerodrome, to the Jaguar assembly plant in what used to be the CBAF . . . but they use the Motorway, which didn't exist in 1940 . . .


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« Reply #2569 on: June 13, 2020, 03:52:39 AM »
In my case, trying to work out which route the lorries carrying the wings for the Paladins would take, from the CBAF, to Boulton Paul at Pendeford...

Well, you see, that's just one of many reasons that Paladin production was phased out. Still, I could have explained the original routing better...

That original, back-country road lorry routing proved quite impractical - the infamous occurrence between a juggernaut and that sheep farmer's gate along Ridding Lane outside of Wednesbury being but one of a series of major incidents!

Later routing was by barge along the Birmingham Mainline Canal until it joined the Shropshire Union Canal Main Line north of Wolverhampton. Barges were then offloaded at The Droveway for the short lorry trip to the Pendeford plant. It was a straightforward transport route that made use of barges which would most likely be returning empty to the Wolverhampton area. So why didn't it continue?

The major reason for the Ministry of Aircraft Production's decision against continued Paladin production was that CBAF had more Spitfire fuselages than it had wing sets to match. Left wingless, Boulton Paul had the choice of abandoning the Paladin altogether or devising its own wing design ...
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« Reply #2570 on: June 13, 2020, 05:16:44 AM »
That original, back-country road lorry routing proved quite impractical - the infamous occurrence between a juggernaut and that sheep farmer's gate along Ridding Lane outside of Wednesbury being but one of a series of major incidents!


LOVE IT ! ! ! !   ;D    ;D    ;D    ;D    ;D


Though I'd have thought the best route would have been straight along the Holyhead Road past the Town Hall and Art Gallery, then on up to Moxley and Bilston, rather than get tangled up in the narrow town centre streets. Also, I don't think there's been a sheep farm in Wednesbury for two hundred years . . .   ;D

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« Reply #2571 on: June 16, 2020, 04:43:31 AM »
Well, with all these new-fangled lorries, omnibuses, and no end to to-doings, can we really blame the poor bloody sheep-farmers for keeping a low profile? (BTW, Loving your The Lucifer Device!)

Sport25ing sent me a clever Ecuador scenario. That reminded me that I promised (threatened?) to write up the end of my Ecudador vs Perú saga. In short(ish) form it was this ...

Both Perú and the US know that Coronel Sáez and his Liga Militar co-conspirators are behind both the indigenous uprising in the Región Amazónica and, ultimately, the 'guerra del 47'. In turn, Ecudaor is well aware that the US intends to start modernizing the militaries of its Rio Pact 'allies' with surplus WW2 equipment. The 'rumour mill' suggests that Republic F-47Ds will soon arrive in Perú to replace CAP Curtiss P-36G fighters by the end of 1947. [1]

So, Ecuador must prompt a Perúvian attack prior to those new equipment arrivals. The problem for Coronel Sáez was a change of government in Britain. The Coronel's refusal to be addressed as Presidente was meant to read as 'modesty' in Ecuador. But Clement Attlee's Foreign Minister, Ernest Bevin, correctly interpreted the title Jefe Supremo de la República del Ecuador for its falagist influence. (Unoffical titles like the 'Líder glorioso' bandied about in the Ecuadorian press only exacerbate PR problems.) The supply of military equipment from Britain quickly dried up.

Pitching la Región Amazónica into chaos has unintended consequences for Quito. Once Perú has lost control of the northernmost part of its territory to rebels, Colombia stepped in. Fearing a repeat of 1932-33, Colombia bombed the Perúvian border post at Caballo Cocha before dropping paratroops on its airfield. There was no contest. CAP airfields were too far south to help (and, in any case, were fully engaged against the FAE). Besides, the FAC had received its superior F-47D Thunderbolt fighters back in 1946. Lima quickly bowed to the inevitable and ceded  all territory along its northern border with Colombia - ie: north of the Rio Napa and then following its junction with the Rio Amazonas east to the border with Brazil.

Cutting to the chase, Ecuador under the Sáez dictatorship was able to undermine Perúvian authority in Amazónica but not to capitalize upon that induced chaos. Perú was forced to surrender territory to Colombia and then negotiated a series of ceasefires with the indigenous tribes. [2] In almost all cases, those ceasefire agreements included promises of Perúvian military withdrawl, pacts of future mutual defence, and the supply of ex-Perúvian weapons to the security forces of these new indigenous entities. Only by risky a renewed conflict with Perú (not to mention international censure on behalf of the newly-freed indigenous states) could Quito hope to benefit from the Perúvian withdrawl. Public opinion in Ecuador correctly gauged that Coronel Sáez and his cronies had dragged the country into another war with Perú to absolutely no purpose.

Within the year, the Ecuadorian economy was in tatters and Jorge Rodríguez Sáez was living as a private citizen on Majorca (as a 'guest' of General Franco). In the aftermath of the Sáez regime, Ecuador had become all but ungovernable. By a slim majority vote, on 01 January 1949, the former country became two newest provinces of the recently reformed República de la Gran Colombia - the Departmento del Ecuador in the interior and the Departmento de Guayaquil on the Pacific coast.

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[1] CAP was also pressing the US Mission for supply of ex-USAF B-25Js, AT-6Gs, and AT-7s.

[2] The deal Lima struck with the Urarina people of the Loreto Region is generally seen as a tacit admission that Perú was prepared to withdraw from north and central Amazónica.
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Re: Apophenia's Offerings
« Reply #2572 on: June 16, 2020, 06:07:43 AM »
Well, with all these new-fangled lorries, omnibuses, and no end to to-doings, can we really blame the poor bloody sheep-farmers for keeping a low profile?


More likely to be the Tiptonites, stealing the sheep, and anything else they could get their hands on . . .    ;D


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« Reply #2573 on: June 16, 2020, 08:10:05 PM »
"Sport25ing sent me a clever Ecuador scenario. That reminded me that I promised (threatened?) to write up the end of my Ecudador vs Perú saga. In short(ish) form it was this ..."

Thx  ;D
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« Reply #2574 on: June 17, 2020, 02:23:21 AM »
More likely to be the Tiptonites, stealing the sheep, and anything else they could get their hands on . . .

It's a minefield out there! First heavy motor traffic on winding country roads, now its disgruntled, thieving industrial workers rustling sheep  :o

"Sport25ing sent me a clever Ecuador scenario. That reminded me that I promised (threatened?) to write up the end of my Ecudador vs Perú saga. In short(ish) form it was this ..."

Thx  ;D

Going to post your Ecuador scenario?  :smiley:
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