Beyond The Sprues
Current and Finished Projects => Physical Models => Aero-space => Topic started by: ericr on September 21, 2013, 10:48:53 PM
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Dear BTS-ers,
here are a few pictures from my collection of seaplane models, which I present in an exhibition which is a "collection of collections", where all sort of things can be seen (beer bottles, giraffe objects, plastic ducks, post stamps, etc). It is shown in containers with windows, in a center park of the city of Grenoble, France.
My collection consists of a few hundreds of seaplane models, painted in either red, yellow or blue (because I like those colors); some of them are fictitious i.e., what-if seaplane versions of planes that weren't.
So it might contribute to the diffusion of the what-if concept ...
Best,
Eric
(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y435/ericr63/hyd/P9100008s_zpsb1635867.jpg)
(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y435/ericr63/hyd/P9130029s_zps884f8543.jpg)
(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y435/ericr63/hyd/P9130046s_zpsa0ffc72d.jpg)
(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y435/ericr63/hyd/P9130047s_zps02f0ce6b.jpg)
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Wow!!!!
Need close ups of each and every one!!!!
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Wow!!!!
Need close ups of each and every one!!!!
I have pictures of them each and all actually, but it would be quite a lot! :-\ :icon_beer: ???
quite a few are visible in this album : http://s1274.beta.photobucket.com/user/ericr63/library/hyd (http://s1274.beta.photobucket.com/user/ericr63/library/hyd)
like this one :
(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y435/ericr63/hyd/harrier_zps0704fcb8.jpg)
I might post some in threads on this site ; is there an appropriate category?
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Just keep posting them in this thread (which I have moved to the appropriate area).
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Just keep posting them in this thread (which I have moved to the appropriate area).
for example this Do 212 in yellow is in the ofreground of one picyute of the exhibition :
(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y435/ericr63/hyd/do212_zps2b133eaa.jpg)
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:-* :-* :-* :-* :-* Wonderful :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
(I must take my breath again) :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
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Wow that's one of the coolest collections I've ever seen!
I find the primary colors incredibly delightful!
Brian da Basher
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Wow that's one of the coolest collections I've ever seen!
I find the primary colors incredibly delightful!
Brian da Basher
Totally agree. Brian musta telepathied and read my mind.
Cool bunch of builds 8)
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Cool bunch of builds 8)
Indeed! Bring 'em (all) on :)
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On that picture : (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v670/Tophe2712/EricrSeaAsy_zps6723191a.jpg)
I guess I see dozens of asymmetric aircraft! Probably this is a misreading but that is teasing... Show us more and more, please. We are the ones to appreciate them deeply, more than visitors of the park maybe (that do not know modelling at all or think this must show Real things...) ;)
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:-* :-* :-* :-* :-* Wonderful :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
(I must take my breath again) :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
thanks a lot ! you're too kind ;)
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I find the primary colors incredibly delightful!
I am really glad you like these colors, because they're cool indeed ; and I find they bring out the shape of planes independently of their origins in geography or history, or military use.
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Cool bunch of builds 8)
Indeed! Bring 'em (all) on :)
as I said, all would be quite a lot, but I will post some here from my photobucket library, which has more ;
like this Rutan voyager, "improved" with floats :
(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y435/ericr63/hyd/voyager_zpsc806e147.jpg)
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On that picture : ([url]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v670/Tophe2712/EricrSeaAsy_zps6723191a.jpg[/url])
I guess I see dozens of asymmetric aircraft! Probably this is a misreading but that is teasing... Show us more and more, please. We are the ones to appreciate them deeply, more than visitors of the park maybe (that do not know modelling at all or think this must show Real things...) ;)
well, maybe you have a personal perspective making you see asymmetric ones here, I don't think I have many, even if I have a few. There are some zwillinged aircraft though :
(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y435/ericr63/hyd/he111z_zps3005b591.jpg)
or, less expected :
(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y435/ericr63/hyd/do18z_zpsce5f0140.jpg)
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These get better-n-better with each viewing :-* :-* :-*
Oh,,, I wanna build some of those.
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Oh,,, I wanna build some of those.
please do! ;)
if some of these ideas can inspire people to do better, with more skills than I have, or other coloring schemes, then I am perfectly happy with that of course.
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quite a few are visible in this album : [url]http://s1274.beta.photobucket.com/user/ericr63/library/hyd[/url] ([url]http://s1274.beta.photobucket.com/user/ericr63/library/hyd[/url])
Thanks a lot for these great new additions to your photobucket collection, already incredible!
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I am reminded of the collections of World War II-era 'Identification Models' I've seen. A most interesting
installation piece!
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I am glad I have been able to enrich the Mustang models family thanks to you ericr!
(on my site http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/Suite_Mustangs_V.htm (http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/Suite_Mustangs_V.htm) )
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/floatP-51_P-82_Ericr.JPG)
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I have included also your great P-38-on-floats variations, with different mountings, on my page http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/twin_boom_whatif_1939_45B.htm (http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/twin_boom_whatif_1939_45B.htm)
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/P38_float_ericr.JPG)
Thanks again, artist!
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very cool. Really like the P-38s
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Me too, and that gave me ideas to complet the set, with single-float ones:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v670/Tophe2712/r_P38eclairF_aaa_zps2abc7633.jpg)
thanks Ericr!
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Single-float Lightnings! :-*
Hmmm, should be possible to have the outrigger floats fold into the vacated former main landing gear bays.
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I like the Rutan Voyager FP and also the He-111ZW
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Me too, and that gave me ideas to complet the set, with single-float ones:
thanks Ericr!
You're welcome! thanks for the bright colors!
I haven't tried a single central float P-38 yet ... maybe one day?
and the assymmetry is astonishing, as always.
another two-floats I did is this one ;)
(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y435/ericr63/hyd/p38egg-s_zps5538cb70.jpg)
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I like the Rutan Voyager FP and also the He-111ZW
Rutan is designing quite crazy planes, some of them avaliable in 1/72 ...
Giving them floats "improves" them a bit ;)
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Me too, and that gave me ideas to complet the set, with single-float ones:
thanks Ericr!
You're welcome! thanks for the bright colors!
I haven't tried a single central float P-38 yet ... maybe one day?
and the assymmetry is astonishing, as always.
another two-floats I did is this one ;)
([url]http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y435/ericr63/hyd/p38egg-s_zps5538cb70.jpg[/url])
That just might be one of the cutest P-38s yet!
I'm probably not the only one going "Awwwww..."
Very nice work indeed!
Brian da Basher
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Yes delicious little egg-seaplane :-* :-*
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Tonight, with the precious help of Ericr yesterday, I have been able to give my Sea-Lightnings a more realistic look! (for the float shape, I mean...) ;)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v670/Tophe2712/r_P38eclairC_aaaan_zpscc345d91.jpg)
I hope the public presentation of Ericr's models has been a tremendous public success in Grenoble and that a Qatari princess fell in love with his collection, for him to become the very first what-if billionnaire!
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Tonight, with the precious help of Ericr yesterday, I have been able to give my Sea-Lightnings a more realistic look! (for the float shape, I mean...) ;)
I hope the public presentation of Ericr's models has been a tremendous public success in Grenoble and that a Qatari princess fell in love with his collection, for him to become the very first what-if billionnaire!
Beautiful!
the exhibition goes on, and the organizers tell me the children are difficult to refrain from touching ;-)
but the collections shown in this collective exhibition are not for sale actually, and I received no spontaneous offer (until now ;-) )
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Not for sale? If one receives a zillion $ offer, almost everything may be sold ;) (at retirement with infinite budget to buy kits and tools, you could build your collection again)
Ericr, in your huge collection, have you float-booms on one? as on the Levasseur PL-200 (http://germo43.skyrock.com/3130509138-LEVASSEUR-PL-200-PL-201.html (http://germo43.skyrock.com/3130509138-LEVASSEUR-PL-200-PL-201.html) )
Or at least float-fins on one? as on the Nikitin PSN-2 (http://weaponsandwarfare.com/?p=4945 (http://weaponsandwarfare.com/?p=4945) )
They may be the next ideas? No? :)
EDIT: the ER-38 Lightning-float family is growing and growing ar the end of my site http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/#Sit (http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/#Sit) , thanks again!
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Not for sale? If one receives a zillion $ offer, almost everything may be sold ;) (at retirement with infinite budget to buy kits and tools, you could build your collection again)
I will wait for such an offer to arrive ... ;)
Ericr, in your huge collection, have you float-booms on one? as on the Levasseur PL-200 ([url]http://germo43.skyrock.com/3130509138-LEVASSEUR-PL-200-PL-201.html[/url] ([url]http://germo43.skyrock.com/3130509138-LEVASSEUR-PL-200-PL-201.html[/url]) )
ah indeed, it does look quite extraordinay!
mmmmmhh ... I have to think ...
(I have two spare fuselages from Cams 37 kits by Azur ... I had an idea for them, but I might change? ... )
Or at least float-fins on one? as on the Nikitin PSN-2 ([url]http://weaponsandwarfare.com/?p=4945[/url] ([url]http://weaponsandwarfare.com/?p=4945[/url]) )
They may be the next ideas? No? :)
done ! ;D
(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y435/ericr63/hyd/psn2_zps2e6cc291.jpg)
I found the kit in resin somewhere ...
also the other one can be found :
(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y435/ericr63/hyd/psn-pt_zps4b7f2ddd.jpg)
EDIT: the ER-38 Lightning-float family is growing and growing ar the end of my site http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/#Sit (http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/#Sit) , thanks again!
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Renewed congratulations! What a collection!
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Ericr, are you the one that built this red Float-Vampire?
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/DeHavilland_seattle2.jpg)
If your heart balance between Seattle and Grenoble, this could be possible...
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Ericr, are you the one that built this red Float-Vampire?
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If your heart balance between Seattle and Grenoble, this could be possible...
no, it's not me (I wouldn't hqve put decals ;) )
but I am jealous! :-\
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Sorry for having made you jealous, I was meaning (if that were not you in Seattle): you are not alone in the World... but maybe you are the leader of a special category of creative modelers. Be happy! (and you enjoy us here, maybe a million times more than usual visitors of Grenoble - you know, in the 1990s I thought I was the only unrealistic modeler in the World, then with Internet I thought I was one among several, simply the only French one, then I discovered we are plenty, simply judjed-bad by dictatorship of Realism... Yes, be happy here, and sorry again for having made you feel bad, if you were not kidding...).
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I was kidding of course : I like the idea so much I would have liked to have it myself :)
It is indeed a pleasure to find forums like this one where people use inventivity and creativity!
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The collection of collections moved from the central city park to the university campus : so I changed a bit the presentation, as well as the selection of shown planes: one wall of each color, simply.
(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y435/ericr63/hyd/PA010104s_zps69280e49.jpg)
(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y435/ericr63/hyd/PA010105s_zpseec23c62.jpg)
(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y435/ericr63/hyd/PA010106s_zps0bf338cf.jpg)
(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y435/ericr63/hyd/PA010108s_zps294af21c.jpg)
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Intesresting new pictures. Are some of them landplanes? or amphibious? (the yellow one in front)
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Intesresting new pictures. Are some of them landplanes? or amphibious? (the yellow one in front)
yes indeed, some of them are amphibious flying boats like the yellow Canadair, and the Walrus close by, but all of them are seaplanes !
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The collection of collections moved from the central city park to the university campus : so
Saint-Martin d'Hères campus of Grenoble? That is interesting, while... the best would have been the Rangueuil campus of Toulouse with many students in aeronautics... I wish you a tremendous success anyway. ;)
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oops, it seems it has been a bit too hot for one of them
(floatplanized Airacobra, in blue)
(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y435/ericr63/hyd/IMG_0637_zpsb3502dd4.jpg)
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Great! May I include it in my collection of asymmetric aircraft? with a new reason for asymmetry: broken down toy ;D ;)
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please do ;)
the category could be "melted down" rather than broken :)
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I have tried to follow your words. Is my text correct? (at the end of the site http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/Asymm_addition.htm (http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/Asymm_addition.htm) ) Thanks again!
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yes, it's ok ;)
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oops, it seems it has been a bit too hot for one of them
(floatplanized Airacobra, in blue)
([url]http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y435/ericr63/hyd/IMG_0637_zpsb3502dd4.jpg[/url])
... Pylon-racer -- very tight course !
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Dear Ericr,
When I directed you to Facebook's "Stargazer's Imaginary Aircraft" (showing a tandem-wing floatplane), you told me you had built a blue Lysander-Delanne seaplane. Is it this one? (or is this a sesquiplane seen from behind?)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v670/Tophe2712/Mystery_zpsef89b6c4.jpg)
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Dear Ericr,
When I directed you to Facebook's "Stargazer's Imaginary Aircraft" (showing a tandem-wing floatplane), you told me you had built a blue Lysander-Delanne seaplane. Is it this one? (or is this a sesquiplane seen from behind?)
([url]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v670/Tophe2712/Mystery_zpsef89b6c4.jpg[/url])
Hi Tophe,
this one must be a Macchi M.5 flying boat (1/48, in blue), sesquiplane indeed.
I just started a topic with the Delanne floatplane in orange, and Lysander (without floats) there :
http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=3698.0 (http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=3698.0)
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Dear Ericr,
as a seaplane expert, have you considered building a seaplane with modern foils instead of antique floats? How could that work?
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v670/Tophe2712/r_P38eclairH_aabw_zpseca9390e.jpg)
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Dear Ericr,
as a seaplane expert, have you considered building a seaplane with modern foils instead of antique floats? How could that work?
Hi Tophe,
what a good idea! there have been a few examples apparently like this :
(http://www.seaplanes.org/mambo/UserFiles/Image/MembersArea/articles/0027e.jpg)
here
http://www.seaplanes.org/mambo/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=221&Itemid=1 (http://www.seaplanes.org/mambo/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=221&Itemid=1)
then there is floatation, which can be achieved with the fuselage and wings I guess, like in the Piaggio PC7 ...
many perspectives indeed for whiffing wild!
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Dear Ericr,
as a seaplane expert, have you considered building a seaplane with modern foils instead of antique floats? How could that work?
([url]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v670/Tophe2712/r_P38eclairH_aabw_zpseca9390e.jpg[/url])
Cool!
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Modern? Like the pre-WWI Bristol-Burney hydrofoils? ;D
(http://flyingmachines.ru/Images7/Putnam/Brit_Early/81-1.jpg)
http://flyingmachines.ru/Site2/Crafts/Craft29516.htm (http://flyingmachines.ru/Site2/Crafts/Craft29516.htm)
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Thanks to all, including the historical correction! :D
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there is floatation, which can be achieved with the fuselage and wings I guess
It seems you are right: there must be floatation before the seaplane increases speed and stand on its hydrofoils:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v670/Tophe2712/r_P38eclairH_aabx_zpscdbb7a8b.jpg)