Beyond The Sprues
Current and Finished Projects => Physical Models => Aero-space => Topic started by: Old Wombat on February 15, 2023, 08:35:31 AM
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Yes, I did spell that right! ;)
I'm currently in the process of chopping up a Revell Lancaster B.I/B.III & a pair of Airfix Typhoon IBs to end up with a slightly smaller version of the Lancaster* powered by two Napier Sabres.
Photos when I've finished the primary, pre-build destruction/construction.
Power output:
Merlin XX = 1,250 hp each ( x 4 = 5,000 hp total)
Sabre II/V = 2,200/2,600 hp each ( x 2 = 4,400/5,200 hp total)
[ Note: The Sabre V is a developed Sabre II ]
[*: Not really a Manchester, but close enough for me.]
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Here are the first photo's;
Outside fuselage & tops of wings;
(https://photos.smugmug.com/172-Avro-Mancaster/i-jRr3W8v/0/d9e53500/X2/DSCN8325-X2.jpg)
Inside fuselage & undersides of wings;
(https://photos.smugmug.com/172-Avro-Mancaster/i-hVtWR88/0/dc763b61/X2/DSCN8326-X2.jpg)
Just to show that it does all go together;
(https://photos.smugmug.com/172-Avro-Mancaster/i-JPfhXPX/0/6b12c997/X2/DSCN8327-X2.jpg)
(Wings are being held in place by a length of styrene rod for the pic.)
I'm still working on the first nacelle (it may take a while).
PS: The metallic thing is a 14cm ruler.
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Oh yeah !!
Really interested to see how this evolves
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Well the Napier Sabre was considered an alternative engine alongside the Centaurus for the Manchester so ...
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Ooooh this one looks interesting ..........
Mog
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A Man-ificent idea Guy!
It is a most Sa-perb concept.
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Thank you, gents! :icon_alabanza:
The engine nacelles are proving to be a bit more problematic but I'm getting there! :smiley:
I was tossing up between Mancaster & Lanchester when I started this build but it's been swirling around in my head, & I've had the kits for it for several years, as the "Mancaster", so that's what it is.
I'm changing the designation to B.I/B.III because the B.I will be powered by the Sabre II, while the B.III will be powered by the Sabre V, with B.I's being converted to B.III standard as their engines wore out (if they wore out). Like the RR & Packard Merlins there's no real external difference between the Sabre II & Sabre V, the extra 400hp was achieved by improving the airflow through the engine & tweaking the design of the supercharger.
Like the Lancaster, the B.II is (Greg beat me to the punch on this) a Centaurus radial powered variant.
Again: Thank you for taking the time to look & comment! :icon_alabanza:
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Appreciate you getting us in at the start with photos. Great concept. :smiley:
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Thanks, Bill! :icon_alabanza:
No worries, mate! :smiley:
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Ooh! me likey dis . . . :D (even though I'm no great fan of the Sabre engine . . .)
If you wanted a 'Real Name', the Avro Ancaster would be valid . . . ;)
Co-incidentally, I'm been doing something along similar lines, for a GB over on Mainly Military Modelling. I'll make a Post about it on here later.
cheers,
Robin.
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Excellent concept. And, as Greg said, a whif with plenty of RW street-cred :smiley:
... If you wanted a 'Real Name', the Avro Ancaster would be valid ...
Nice Robin! I like this name :smiley:
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Excellent concept. And, as Greg said, a whif with plenty of RW street-cred :smiley:
... If you wanted a 'Real Name', the Avro Ancaster would be valid ...
Nice Robin! I like this name :smiley:
Yes :smiley:
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Thanks, guys! :icon_alabanza:
If you really want a real name I'd throw Lanchester (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lanchester,_County_Durham) back into the mix. ;)
PS: Of course, Mancaster is an olde variation on Manchester, anyway. :smiley:
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Nacelles are beginning to come together, shape-wise:
(https://photos.smugmug.com/172-Avro-Mancaster/i-V2sw92w/0/b3d7c603/L/DSCN8333-L.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/172-Avro-Mancaster/i-3fMKK3F/0/97f889e7/L/DSCN8334-L.jpg)
A couple of placement test photo's:
(https://photos.smugmug.com/172-Avro-Mancaster/i-fg4wZqF/0/9b330092/L/DSCN8329-L.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/172-Avro-Mancaster/i-XPNRcqZ/0/9069b567/L/DSCN8330-L.jpg)
Still a lot of work to go. I'm going to try to get a few (other) sub-assemblies together, then throw some primer at it to see where I need to do any more PSR.
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They look nicely done.
At first glance, the look is almost the same as a Merlin.
Four bladed Prop ?
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They look nicely done.
At first glance, the look is almost the same as a Merlin.
Four bladed Prop ?
Thank you! :icon_alabanza:
Yes, that's part of the fun. ;)
Yup, from the Typhoons but with modified Lancaster spinners. :smiley:
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Well, I'd stump for the original triple fin configuration, but that's just me. ;) As someone who has done a fair amount of epoxy putty fairing, the symmetry of the fillets on the nacelles is really good! This is going to be a great looking bird!
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Can see it coming that those with mediocre British bomber knowledge take this as the real deal.
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Off to a good start
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Thank you, gentlemen! :icon_alabanza:
Well, I'd stump for the original triple fin configuration, but that's just me. ;)
Whilst I have never liked that look, so we ain't goin' there. ;) :smiley:
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Just a quick update to let you know that things are still happening here but rather slowly - just some PSR happening on the nacelles, at the moment (the fuselage was almost perfect).
Once that's finished I'll have to look at restoring some of the detail lost to the "S" in PSR on both the nacelles & the fuselage.
Was looking at installing a full crew* & displaying it in flying mode but the 1/72 figures I have are all so differently scaled as to make the whole thing look ridiculous, so she'll be grounded but with the bomb bay doors inexplicably open.
[*: Full crew will be 6; pilot, navigator/RO, flight engineer, bomb aimer (bombardier), nose gunner & tail gunner.]
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PSR is fact of life like death & taxes only PSR is way better.
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Thanks for the reminder, Bill! Ain't it just! ::)
Haven't had much chance to do anything for the last couple of days but, this evening, I'm going to hunker down & get stuck into it! ;)
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Laid down some colours for the inside of the fuselage this evening.
Custom mix interior green (all Tamiya colours: Deep Green [XF-26], Sky [XF-21] & Sky Grey [XF-19] in a 5:4:4 ratio, which isn't quite as green as the real thing but close enough for me) & NATO Black [XF-69].
Nacelles & wings have had their final PSR session & will get a final primer coat tomorrow, then I'll have to do the re-scribing of the lost panel lines (my least favourite thing), which often ends in remedial PS sessions to fix f___-ups.
Oh, well. Onwards & upwards! :smiley:
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@Guy - you missed your true calling as a metal banger/body and fender [un-]bender technician. Great job on the blending of the engine cowlings with the original Lancaster nacelles.
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Thanks, Jeff! :icon_alabanza:
They've had a few more PSR rounds to remove a few lumps & bumps & get them "just right" but, as said, they're ready for re-scribing, now. :smiley:
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OK, back on track! ;)
Fuselage is ready to be glued together.
Here are the update photo's showing the fuselage as it is now, putting it together will have to wait for tomorrow later today (after work);
Overview;
(https://photos.smugmug.com/172-Avro-Mancaster/i-TfjNBCc/0/3a369962/XL/DSCN8337-XL.jpg)
I had to scrape off the paint & some of the plastic to get the windows in the long sections to sit through the holes sufficiently to look almost right (I may still have to bulk them out with ClearFix once construction & painting are done).
Starboard & port forward interior sides;
(https://photos.smugmug.com/172-Avro-Mancaster/i-Gw6Rt4h/0/7fec9036/XL/DSCN8339-XL.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/172-Avro-Mancaster/i-NQ5bMbc/0/d1f6f92f/XL/DSCN8340-XL.jpg)
Pilot's, Flight Engineer's & Navigator/Radio Operator's crew area;
(https://photos.smugmug.com/172-Avro-Mancaster/i-XZbKVX4/0/6c9f1b8a/XL/DSCN8341-XL.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/172-Avro-Mancaster/i-4S3mxZ5/0/0f190e15/XL/DSCN8344-XL.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/172-Avro-Mancaster/i-3VDB52s/0/0a551f31/XL/DSCN8348-XL.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/172-Avro-Mancaster/i-3NNhQWq/0/e46f714a/XL/DSCN8347-XL.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/172-Avro-Mancaster/i-RLgh89t/0/eb83e9bc/XL/DSCN8346-XL.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/172-Avro-Mancaster/i-NPRFh3D/0/aa841770/XL/DSCN8345-XL.jpg)
The decal on the pilot's instrument panels slipped without me noticing but, even if I had, like all the others, it had been liberally soaked in MicroSol to get it to lay down over the moulded lumps & bumps on the panel (I should have sanded them off & affixed the decals to the flat surfaces).
So many little faults! :o Luckily they'll (mostly) be hidden inside the fuselage when I close her up. :))
Anyway, I'm off to bed, now.
Thanks for looking! :smiley:
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Guy, for what will be finally visible, that is pretty spiffy
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Thanks, BT! :smiley:
Fuselage is together & being held that way by rubber bands & tape for a while.
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Wings & tail planes glued on & drying.
Noticed that the starboard vertical tail isn't quite ... Vertical, that is. Will have to fix that.
May (also) have jumped the gun on this bit because I haven't, actually, done the re-scribing on the wing tips, yet, and I have to do some (relatively) minor PSR on the fuselage join. :-[
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Oh, by the way, I realised that the vertical tail was as close to perfectly aligned to the horizontal tail plane as I was able to achieve, it was just that the starboard horizontal tail plane had drooped a couple of mm out of alignment. :icon_crap:
All fixed now! :smiley:
Now, I'm just fixing a couple of minor "slippages" in the bomb bay before I move onto the next stage - which I haven't decided on, yet. Decisions! Decisions! ::)
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Cleaned up the fuselage seam lines last night (a product more of my ham-fistedness than any fault of the kit's).
Tonight I'm re-scribing panel lines on the engine nacelles &, as expected, I have some stuff-ups to fix (one day I'll learn how to keep my scribing tool on the straight-&-narrow ... Maybe. ::) )
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Good work so far! What's the yellow dot where the pilot's headrest goes?
Is that the Revell Lancaster from the 80's? Looks a lot better than I remember it.
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Good work so far! What's the yellow dot where the pilot's headrest goes?
Is that the Revell Lancaster from the 80's? Looks a lot better than I remember it.
Don't have a clue why there's a yellow dot there, Frank, but it's there on the real thing, looks like the perfect marker for a fighter to aim at to take out the pilot, to me.
Front:
(https://www.cybermodeler.com/aircraft/lancaster/images/daveh_216.jpg)
& back:
(https://www.cybermodeler.com/aircraft/lancaster/images/daveh_066.jpg)
And, yes, it's the Revell Lancaster. Only a little bit of flash, no fit issues (yet, although I think there may be some fairly minor ones with the nacelles) but the locating tabs are a little small &, with glue applied, they allowed a bit of slippage when I put the fuselage together.
However, all-in-all, I'm rather impressed with this kit. I hope my two Airfix Lanc's are just as good (or better).
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I had the same thought! How thoughtful to make the pilot's head such an easy target!
This must be the newer version of the Revell kit I don't remember my kit very fondly. Bad fit, beyond my abilities at the time or both.
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Good work so far! What's the yellow dot where the pilot's headrest goes? ...
Don't have a clue why there's a yellow dot there, Frank, but it's there on the real thing ...
That yellow disc painted on the seat backs just indicated armour plating. You'd think that a discrete stencil would suffice to warn erks not to risk their toes by dropping armour on them. So, I'm not sure why a 10-inch circle was required ...
Still, don't want LAC Bloggins expecting to unbolt an 'aluminium' panel only to find he's just landed 75 lbs of armour plate on his Bromleys :o
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I think that yellow circle is painted in a chemical that changes colour when exposed to GAS. Hurricanes had a similar panel on the port wing during the early days of the war.
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Re-scribing continues slowly.
This means: When I've had enough I walk away to do something else until I feel ready to have another go at it.
Saves further big(gish) stuff-ups.
By the way, I've noticed that I may have been Matchbox's "Phantom Trench Digger" in a previous incarnation. :-\
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The interior alone is a thing of beauty. Interesting bit of info about the big yellow polka dot, too.
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Thanks, Doc! :icon_alabanza:
It was, wasn't it. :smiley:
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I think that yellow circle is painted in a chemical that changes colour when exposed to GAS. Hurricanes had a similar panel on the port wing during the early days of the war.
raafif: Circular gas patches - on the few Lancs that had them - were exterior (on either side of the noses).
We now return you to scheduled Mancaster programming :smiley:
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Airfix years ago flat told me they'd never 'tool' the Manchester, unbelieveable knowing it was the essential evolutionary ancestor of the Lancaster & Lincoln. I can't believe they'd forego doing so considering as I believe there's still modeling interest in marketing at least a 1/72 scale model of it. If that doesn't work out economically for Airfix then consider tooling a conversion kit for their current 1/72nd Lancaster one.
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Once upon a time there was a 1/72 Conversion kit from Blackbird Models.
(https://files.ekmcdn.com/blackbirdmodel/images/avro-manchester-conversion-72--1538-p.gif?v=30b2eb60-6fe6-44fb-9260-587232d1c53b)
https://www.blackbirdmodels.co.uk/avro-manchester-conversion-72-1538-p.asp (https://www.blackbirdmodels.co.uk/avro-manchester-conversion-72-1538-p.asp)
Not sure if Glenn Ashley will be re-issuing it.
But agree a full kit would be nice to have.
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Airfix years ago flat told me they'd never 'tool' the Manchester, unbelieveable knowing it was the essential evolutionary ancestor of the Lancaster & Lincoln. I can't believe they'd forego doing so considering as I believe there's still modeling interest in marketing at least a 1/72 scale model of it. If that doesn't work out economically for Airfix then consider tooling a conversion kit for their current 1/72nd Lancaster one.
Can't believe that Airfix won't do the Lincoln - RAF, RAAF etc saw combat ! Would be nice to have the whole set .... 1/72nd for me but ... maybe in 32nd scale for some ?
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Once upon a time there was a 1/72 Conversion kit from Blackbird Models. Not sure if Glenn Ashley will be re-issuing it. But agree a full kit would be nice to have.
Also the Planet Models 1/72 Manchester Mk.1 PLT127 (2004) & Mk.1a P130 (2010) resins, twice had both the former, one latter kits to build, gave them away - twice :icon_crap: :-[
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Airfix years ago flat told me they'd never 'tool' the Manchester, unbelieveable knowing it was the essential evolutionary ancestor of the Lancaster & Lincoln. I can't believe they'd forego doing so considering as I believe there's still modeling interest in marketing at least a 1/72 scale model of it. If that doesn't work out economically for Airfix then consider tooling a conversion kit for their current 1/72nd Lancaster one.
Can't believe that Airfix won't do the Lincoln - RAF, RAAF etc saw combat ! Would be nice to have the whole set .... 1/72nd for me but ... maybe in 32nd scale for some ?
...Not only that they were VERY RUDE telling me that >:( Italeri wasn't that better doing business with, once asked them via e-mail to quote cost on getting replacement kit parts, buggers wanted near much as the kit was worth >:( >:( Airfix Of America 59-58 years ago was incredible sending whatever replacement parts I'd wanted FOR FREE, that's how much Airfix UK then prized the US "toy" market to get around insane tariffs on imported toys from Europe Congress passed in 1950s, not so much Japan! Japanese toy makers, including scale model ones, got sweetheart trade deals till c.1962 when Universal Powermaster Corporation (UPC) was created to import Marusan et.al. scale models, largely lifted c,1968-70 partially because the Post WWII Boy Baby Boom had peaked & scale modeling had become a discriminating hobby thanks in part to International Plastic Modelers' Society et.al. scale hobbiest organizations. In 1969 I'd "quit the hobby" but returned to it in 1978 then again in 2004 both times lucky enough to build the kits I'd wanted though XXX-times more expensive >:(
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Awesome job as always compadre, keep up the excellence :smiley: ;)
Funny, though, a Sabre powered Lancaster stripped down for speed would be interesting too 8)
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Thanks, bro! Much appreciated! :icon_alabanza:
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Just spent a decent 90 minutes spraying a whole bunch of parts & bits Tamiya XF-69 NATO Black (standing in for British Interior Black) before I start putting them together (bomb bay, wheel wells, gun turrets, etc.).
There will need to be some work done with various metallics before I get to the construction phase but the black is a good start ... & I feel like I'm making progress. (Which is always a good thing! :smiley: )
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Well, I've managed to spray 3 different types of silver onto various small undercarriage & engine intake bits, now I need to fix up some of the black bits. :smiley:
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And tonight I've managed to mask the silver bits, so I can re-spray the black bits of the landing gear, & I'm going to use a different black, to give a bit of variation to the blacks in the wheel wells.
Speaking of the wheel wells, I've also built them & fitted the nacelles. There's going to be more PSR here than I was hoping for but, hopefully, not too much, plus some re-spraying of the NATO Black on the inside of the wheel wells.
Things seem to be going moderately well, touch wood ... LOTS of wood! :)) :-\
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A lot less PSR than expected! :smiley:
Just sprayed some black into the wheel wells & around the Putty-Sand area & there is only a little "r" to finish it off, & that is really only a touch more "s".
After that I need to get the turrets in, & the cockpit glazing on, so I can start the camo. This is a problem as it would be easier to paint the plane without the turrets. However, if I do that, there are parts that need to be fitted after the turrets are in to secure them in place & these, I'm sure, will need a certain amount of PSR to get to fit properly.
Plus all that masking! :-\
Plus the turrets need a bucket-load of work to get them ready to fit because, of course, I'm modifying them, aren't I. ::)
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This is a problem as it would be easier to paint the plane without the turrets. However, if I do that, there are parts that need to be fitted after the turrets are in to secure them in place
Araldite ;D
Must agree it is easier to paint with the turrets off, been down that road (perhaps not with this exact kit ) and modified the turrets to slip in after all the painting and just white glued in place.
Unless really want the turrets to turn to enhance your Vroom, Vroom flying around the room experience ;D
Looking forward to seeing this
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I paint a small area around the turrets with the appropiate colour while the fuselage is open, install the turrets when closing, then mask the glass & do the full cammo.
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Thanks for the advice, guys! :smiley:
Mostly shopping & gardening today, so I'll see what I can come up with tonight, or over the next couple of nights. ;)
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This is a problem as it would be easier to paint the plane without the turrets. However, if I do that, there are parts that need to be fitted after the turrets are in to secure them in place
Araldite ;D
Must agree it is easier to paint with the turrets off, been down that road (perhaps not with this exact kit ) and modified the turrets to slip in after all the painting and just white glued in place.
Unless really want the turrets to turn to enhance your Vroom, Vroom flying around the room experience ;D
Looking forward to seeing this
I did a similar thing to Buzzbomb when I did a Tiger Force Lancaster, basically sand off the locating ring on the turret so that it would slip in after painting. From memory there was still enough whacker to allow the turrets to turn and stay in, but i glued mine in fore and aft.
Looking forward to the finished article.
Mog
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Some progress pic's to show that things are happening, if somewhat slowly:
(https://photos.smugmug.com/172-Avro-Mancaster/i-93hMD67/0/b2d92557/X3/DSCN8350-X3.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/172-Avro-Mancaster/i-dFKKzMr/0/6462a558/X3/DSCN8351-X3.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/172-Avro-Mancaster/i-BXCG5QT/0/d8d56ef6/X2/DSCN8352-X2.jpg)
The prop's are the Tempest prop's fitted with modified Lancaster bosses.
The guns at the back are 20mm Hispano Mk.II cannon from the Tempest kits, modified to fit into the Lanc turrets, with brass barrel ends for a 1/72 Hurricane IIc/IV, which used the same guns (I still have to make 2 more).
Cheers! :icon_beer:
Guy
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Looking good
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Thanks, Greg! :icon_alabanza:
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Awesome re-assembly of bit and bobs from many sources Guy!
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Yes, looking good. And your turrets are most intriguing :smiley:
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That front view is amazing! I know it's too late to change it, but it reminds me of a solid nose B-25 with .50 cals and a cannon.
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Thanks, gents! :icon_alabanza: :icon_alabanza: :icon_alabanza:
And your turrets are most intriguing :smiley:
Turrets are just the standard F.N.5A nose turret & early version F.N.20 rear turret (the Revell kit, unlike the Airfix kit, doesn't have the F.N.82 rear turret option) hacked up to fit the 20mm cannons. ;)
I know it's too late to change it, but it reminds me of a solid nose B-25 with .50 cals and a cannon.
If you saw them side-by-side you would realise how weird that would look, she's easily twice the size of a B-25. ;D
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Smooth integration of Tempest engines and the rest. Four blade props add excitement. Better interior finish than I can do. :smiley:
In primer looks kinda German.
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Thank you, Bill! Much appreciated! :icon_alabanza:
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Just caught up with progress Wombat, superb as always, lookin' good 8) 8) 8) 8)
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Thanks, mate! :smiley: :icon_alabanza:
Just bought SMS's Lancaster paint set today, so camo painting shouldn't be too far away. ;)
Lots of godawful masking between now & then, though. :o
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Really is almost there.
Coming along swimmingly well, the subtle engine changes really work well
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Right, cockpit glasshouse masking is done! :smiley:
And so are my eyes! :-\
Think I'll give them a bit of a rest, now, & come back to it in a while to do the other pre-painting bits. 8)
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You know those little bits you find just before (or just after) you're about to make a major step towards finishing the model? ???
Well, I've just found a few! :icon_crap: :icon_crap: :icon_crap:
Hopefully won't take long to fix but annoying, none the less. ::)
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You know those little bits you find just before (or just after) you're about to make a major step towards finishing the model? ???
Well, I've just found a few! :icon_crap: :icon_crap: :icon_crap:
Hopefully won't take long to fix but annoying, none the less. ::)
Glad to see I am not the only one that suffers from this phenomena. For me it seems that when the Carpet Monster has grown tired of hoarding the missing parts. The missing part is then ejected from the carpet to some place that had been thoroughly searched previously to then be discovered again. Then comes the fun part of trying to remember where you put the box that is the home to that same missing part so you can return it to the kit and pick up where you left off on that work in progress.
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I wish the Vinyl Monster was as generous! ;D
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Been doing a bit of pre-camo painting & tomorrow should be the Big Day (well, Evening) when the camo is, finally, started! :smiley:
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Looking forward to the paint! Up arming the turrets is always a good idea.
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Be worth the effort and the wait.
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Thanks, guys! :icon_alabanza:
1st colour down; So far, so good! :smiley:
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Just so you can see that "stuff" is really happening, here's a couple of very current photo;
(https://photos.smugmug.com/172-Avro-Mancaster/i-WcNfsdc/0/f3933ce4/XL/DSCN8353-XL.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/172-Avro-Mancaster/i-HGnZKSg/0/0f9ec45d/XL/DSCN8354-XL.jpg)
They both look right, depending on the lighting.
A couple of minor things that need touching up but no bleeding under the tape. None! WIN! ;D
Two camo colours (& one other, still covered in tape) down, one to go ... but not tonight! ;)
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:smiley:
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Very nice Wombat, always good to get a win during finishing :smiley: ;)
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Amen to that, Brother! :smiley:
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Appears perfectly fine to me, on the last stretch. ;)
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Thanks, BT! :D
Fixed the little issues (a few seconds of spray time). :))
Just put the remnants of the fuselage & the wings of the 1/72 Airfix Typhoon IB together as a paint tester for Colour #3 &, I must say, it goes together very well. :smiley:
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Somewhat disappointingly I've discovered that the "Blue Black" that I was going to use to lighten the "Camo Black" seems to eat into the plastic through a primer coat, even through a primer coat & Camo Black coat to give an acid etched appearance. I don't understand why because all the other external colours, including the Camo Black, are SMS colours & don't do that. :o
Even a 20% Blue Black/80% Camo Black mix eats straight through. 40% BB / 60% CB gives the tone I was looking for but, of course, eats the plastic. :icon_crap:
I'll see how Tamiya NATO Black goes over the SMS paints (acrylic over lacquer can be problematic) because it's the closest colour to what I want but, if that doesn't work, I'll have to use the SMS Camo Black & hope that a grey oil wash lightens it a bit. ::)
Glad I was using a test piece & didn't put it straight onto the build! :icon_meditation:
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Happy coincidence? Fate? Pure happenstance? I dunno, whatever, but I've found that, although a bit darker than I really wanted, Tamiya NATO black over SMS Camo Black, rubbed back a bit, gives a really good weathered colour appearance. So, I'm going to run with that. ??? :D
I'll start masking tonight. Maybe even get the Camo Black down. We'll see. ;)
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Well, it's stupid o'clock in the morning (lucky I'm on afternoon shift
tomorrow today & I've done the Camo Black, doesn't look quite as excessively dark as I thought it would, now it's on a larger canvas, so to speak. :smiley:
I'll hit it with the Tamiya NATO Black after I get up & rub it back a bit after work. Hopefully it'll look as good as it did on the Typhoon. ;)
Anyway...
'Night, all! I'm off to bed! :))
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On a roll! [Touch wood!] :smiley:
Camouflage finished & tape off, &, again, no bleeding! Just some fix-ups required on the red wing & fin bands, then it's gloss & transfer/decal time! :D
Here are some pic's for you to view in the mean time;
(https://photos.smugmug.com/172-Avro-Mancaster/i-Q8kqzb8/0/531d1d04/X3/DSCN8360-X3.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/172-Avro-Mancaster/i-3P7vrzm/0/b996dd62/X3/DSCN8359-X3.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/172-Avro-Mancaster/i-bBGJBm9/0/da0e3fb3/X3/DSCN8361-X3.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/172-Avro-Mancaster/i-gfxr8hK/0/e9795103/X3/DSCN8362-X3.jpg)
The black seems strangely greenish in these photo's, which it doesn't in the styrene. ???
But then, so do the upper colours, so, maybe, it's a by-product of the blue background. ???
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So far I'm convinced :smiley:
How many of these were built ?
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I love the camo and the red bands! I just now noticed the radar pod. Niiice!
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Straight out of a profile publication so far.
Really coming together
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Thank you, gent's! :icon_alabanza:
How many of these were built ?
I'm doing research for the backstory, which is also coming along fairly well, & that is one of the things I need to work out. ;)
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Better 'n better old son :smiley:
Looks like you're bleeding into reality, well done so far :smiley: :smiley:
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Better 'n better old son :smiley:
Looks like you're bleeding into reality, well done so far :smiley: :smiley:
Thanks, again, Bro! :smiley:
No, I'm warping reality to conform to my will! ;)
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OK, so I tried roughly the same shots but with a white-ish (cream) background - colours are much better;
(https://photos.smugmug.com/172-Avro-Mancaster/i-FLMdwCF/0/789c62ba/X3/DSCN8364-X3.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/172-Avro-Mancaster/i-hGSgwGq/0/e2ebf17f/X3/DSCN8365-X3.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/172-Avro-Mancaster/i-vPr5SKw/0/76b62d88/X3/DSCN8366-X3.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/172-Avro-Mancaster/i-m93RGv3/0/2f83df90/X3/DSCN8367-X3.jpg)
[Note to self: Don't use blue backgrounds for taking photo's! ::) ]
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Glossed ready for transfers/decals! :smiley:
Tonight? ??? ;)
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OK, so I tried roughly the same shots but with a white-ish (cream) background - colours are much better...
Looking gorgeous! :-*
... No, I'm warping reality to conform to my will!
Always the best way to go ;D
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Transfers/Decals going on slowly, they say they're printed in Italy for Revell but not by whom.
All I can say is that they drink Micro Sol like a parched camel at a watering hole! :-\
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As I'm sure you're all aware, those first few transfers/decals really make a difference to the look of a build. 8)
It starts to come alive! :D
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Have to agree, decals are a major point in getting "the look"
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All the aircraft identification markings done. Now just the generic markings to go. :smiley:
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Walkways done (I hope*). :smiley:
[*: Some of them may need some of the "clear" bits of the transfer trimmed off to minimise the risk of silvering, which I did with a razor for the aircraft ID letters.]
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Transfers/Decals are done!* :D
Next up is gloss coat to seal in the transfers/decals & prep for washes.
After that it's matt coat, weathering & final matt coat.
However, I have to go to a niece's wedding next weekend down in the SE of the state, about 350km from here, & the wife will be coming back from Cummins with the eldest daughter, her partner & my grandson plus 2 dogs on Wednesday. So, the chances of me finishing this before the middle of next week are slim to Buckley's ("none", for those who speaketh not Australian slang).
Still, I shall endeavour to do what I can in the meantime! :smiley:
[*: With the possible/probable exception of having to trim the "clear" bits from a couple more, as per previous post.]
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Sounds like fun old son, but really only 350km?
Hope it all goes well :smiley:
Can't wait to see some pics of the beastly Mancaster. It sure looks good so far 8) 8) 8)
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... slim to Buckley's ("none", for those who speaketh not Australian slang)...
For those of us who struggle with Strine, it doesn't help that Buckley's has two origin stories - VIC and everywhere else :-\
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Gloss has gone over the top surfaces. :D
I shall now go & do some [shudder] housework while it dries sufficiently before I turn it over. :o
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Gloss has, now, gone on the under surfaces. :smiley:
More housework while I wait for that to dry. :icon_crap:
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Well, that was bloody irritating! :icon_twisted:
Whilst wiping off some oil washes I was trialling, to highlight the panel lines, the port side (left) tail plane just fell off. Sheared off flush with the join to the fuselage. >:D >:D >:D
Luckily, I have brass rod & the bloody-mindedness to get this fixed ..... Tomorrow. I need to get some sleep, right now. ::)
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CA gel, brass rod & Revell Contacta cement applied. All taped into position & hoping like crazy that this works! :icon_alabanza:
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Whilst wiping off some oil washes I was trialling, to highlight the panel lines, the port side (left) tail plane just fell off. Sheared off flush with the join to the fuselage. >:D >:D >:D
You need to wipe less vigorously... ;)
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I was wiping less vigorously, that's what's irritating. I was being very gentle, if I'd been ham-fisted about it I could understand but I was barely touching it. ::)
Anyway, fixed now & seems to be holding. Re-did the wash with dark brown, as the grey I'd used was too light, & this time the tail planes stayed on despite considerably more vigorous wiping. :smiley:
Unlikely to get back to the bench for about a week, family coming (including the grandson) & going to a niece's wedding on the weekend, but I'll try to find some time to take a couple of photo's.
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OK, just a couple of pic's to show where I'm at:
(https://photos.smugmug.com/172-Avro-Mancaster/i-mTpfCGN/0/e89ba313/X3/DSCN8371-X3.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/172-Avro-Mancaster/i-m5xp2bR/0/e6cbd3fd/X3/DSCN8372-X3.jpg)
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:smiley: :smiley:
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Wow - it's looking good!
You need to wipe less vigorously... ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGCIGEUB32M (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGCIGEUB32M)
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Thank you, gents! :icon_alabanza:
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That's coming along very nicely Wombat :smiley:
At least you didn't wipe off vigorously enough to send your model plunging into the carpet monster like some one I know :))
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Thanks, Neil! :smiley:
No, but sailor-like profanities thickened the air for quite a few minutes, believe me! ;)
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Nice!
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Thanks, mate! :smiley:
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So, after a week away from the bench; I'm ba-ack! :D
First matt coat down & she's lookin' good! :smiley:
Started the (very mild) weathering, which is also looking good! :smiley:
Going back to the workbench in a few minutes to continue. ;)
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Going back to the workbench in a few minutes to continue. ;)
Make it so ! :smiley:
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I know is RW, I just know it !
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Thanks, guys! :icon_alabanza: :icon_alabanza:
Weathering/dirtying is pretty much done (may need a few tweaks here-&-there but nothing more than a couple of dabs).
Going to open up the bomb bay & wheel wells next, & get them sorted before fitting the last of the tiny bits, after which will be a final blast of matt before I fit the turrets & expose the glazing (some of which will need Clearfix to improve their look).
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Landing gear fitted, minus the wheels.
Working on the bombs.
Not too long, now! ;)
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Painting bombs & their markings.
Everything is in fractions of a millimetre! :o :-\
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She's on her feet! :D
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PS: I failed to mention that I've decided on a name change; no longer is this the Mancaster, it is now the Winchester! ;)
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OK, having a break while my eyes & hands try to recover from trying to paint 1/144" (1/2" RW in 1/72 scale) lines around the cone-shaped pointy bits of bombs freehand. :-\
I will state that I flat-out failed, but not as badly as I thought I would. Will need some touch up work & they're not really in scale but they should be good enough. ;)
I still have more lines to paint (1" RW = 1/72" in scale).
The easiest to do is the 4,000lb HC bomb, it's just a big cylinder of thin mild steel around a lot of explosives. Tape works on that! :smiley:
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Build is being delayed by infuriating bomb painting issues. If this keeps up I'm going for a closed bomb bay! >:D
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Sometimes it's worth being a little out of scale so that it looks " right"
Stick with it OW this is shaping up to be an impressive build :smiley:
Mog
>^-.-^<
P.S. would thin decal be any easier ? or just too fiddly at that size
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Thanks, 'Mog! :smiley:
I'm getting there, slowly.
The 4,000lb HC bomb is done (easy, it's just a big cylinder) & the 4 x 1,000lb GP's are done to my satisfaction. Just the 8 x 500lb SAP bombs to go & they're moving forward one step at a time (I'll be going to put the 2nd bands on shortly).
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Probably too late to help you now, but I always found it easier to spray the ID bands' colours on ordnance before masking off the bands and then continuing on with the top colours. Saved a bit of stress.
Ya got any more pics?? ;)
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Not yet, mate. ;D
Once the bombs are done & fitted, it'll be a few small finishing bits & I'll have finished photo's up. :smiley:
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OK, the SAP bands are touched up & are as (not very) good as I'm ever going to get them. They're drying now &, when that's done, I'll do the green bands.
After that will be gloss coat, oil washes, then matt coat & fitting.
Then it'll be adding the last little bits & finishing touches.
Hopefully that will mean I'll be able to take "completed" photo's.
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Green bands done ... They, too, need touching up. :-\
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Green band touch-up work done, & I've put a bit of metallic silver (Humbrol) on the nose for the fuses' striker caps.
Drying now.
Next I'll glue on the racks before gloss coating, then oil wash, etc., etc., etc.
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12,000lb of high explosive ordnance loaded & ready to go! :D
A few shots of matt clear required to fix up a few glue spots (once they're dry) but, other than that, the load-out is finished. Not perfect but good enough for government work!
Almost on the home stretch, now! :smiley:
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Antici................................................................PATION! :smiley:
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Captures blending of Manchester and Lancaster so well. Excellent concept and build :smiley:
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Thanks, Jeff & Bill! :smiley: :smiley:
Bomb bay doors fitted & glue drying - & weren't they a right PitA! ::)
I'm going to get all the little bits done, so I can hit all the glue marks & any possible fix-ups with one hit of flat/matt clear rather than lots of little ones.
Plus there's one small bit of scratch building to be done before I finish, too; the framework between the rear turret & the "Village Inn" radar housing.
Seems the closer I'm getting to finishing, the more little bits seem to pop their heads up to be done. Of course I might be further along if I hadn't had to spend almost 2 hours searching for the starboard nav light. :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted:
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Of course I might be further along if I hadn't had to spend almost 2 hours searching for the starboard nav light. :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted:
I think you got off easy in your search for the part in question when you consider the size of that navigation light in 1/72nd scale, :smiley:
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Of course I might be further along if I hadn't had to spend almost 2 hours searching for the starboard nav light. :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted:
I think you got off easy in your search for the part in question when you consider the size of that navigation light in 1/72nd scale, :smiley:
Not when I'd been searching for it on the floor & found it still on the bloody table! :-\ :-\ :-\
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Of course I might be further along if I hadn't had to spend almost 2 hours searching for the starboard nav light. :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted:
I think you got off easy in your search for the part in question when you consider the size of that navigation light in 1/72nd scale, :smiley:
Not when I'd been searching for it on the floor & found it still on the bloody table! :-\ :-\ :-\
Been there !!
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Oh yes I've been there too :-\
Mog
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Frustrating Yes -- but nice to know we are each not alone when it comes to such things.
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Little bits successfully affixed! :smiley:
Now there's just the matter of a tiny bit of paintwork damage that will be covered over by a bit of heavier, but still appropriate, dirtying.
After that will be a squirt of matt clear before the turrets are emplaced & the "Village Inn" connected to the rear turret.
Things are looking up! ;)
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Things are getting close!
Just have the "Village Inn" to finish & she's ostensibly done.
However, matt coating revealed some gluey lumps along the rear half of on of the bomb bay door "hinge" joins*, which the craftsman in me is demanding that I fix before calling her done.
[*: Not surprising, really, when you consider how much trouble they gave me getting them on in the first place.]
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Photo's & backstory are being processed, so here's something to keep you entertained.
Specifications (Manchester Mk I)
General characteristics
Crew: 7; pilot, flight engineer, navigator, bomb aimer/nose gunner, wireless operator, mid-upper and rear gunners
Length: 70 ft (21.34 m)
Wingspan: 90 ft 1 in (27.46 m)
Height: 19 ft 6 in (5.94 m)
Empty weight: 31,200 lb (14,152 kg)
Max takeoff weight: 50,000 lb (22,680 kg)
Powerplant: 2 × Rolls-Royce Vulture I X-24 liquid-cooled piston engine, 1,760 hp (1,310 kW) each
Propellers: 3-bladed constant-speed feathering propellers
Performance
Maximum speed: 265 mph (426 km/h, 230 kn) at 17,000 ft (5,182 m)
Range: 1,200 mi (1,900 km, 1,000 nmi) with maximum bomb load of 10,350 lb (4,695 kg)
Service ceiling: 19,200 ft (5,900 m)
Armament
Guns: 8 × 0.303 in (7.7 mm) Browning machine guns, (nose (2), dorsal (2) and tail (4) turrets)
Bombs: 10,350 lb (4,695 kg) bomb load
Specifications (Lancaster I)
General characteristics
Crew: 7: pilot, flight engineer, navigator, bomb aimer/nose gunner, wireless operator, mid-upper and rear gunners
Length: 69 ft 4 in (21.13 m)
Wingspan: 102 ft 0 in (31.09 m)
Height: 20 ft 6 in (6.25 m)
Empty weight: 36,900 lb (16,738 kg)
Max takeoff weight: 68,000 lb (30,844 kg)
Powerplant: 4 × Rolls-Royce Merlin XX V-12 liquid-cooled piston engines, 1,280 hp (950 kW) each
Propellers: 3-bladed
Performance
Maximum speed: 282 mph (454 km/h, 245 kn) at 63,000 lb (28,576 kg) and 13,000 ft (3,962 m) altitude
Range: 2,530 mi (4,070 km, 2,200 nmi)
Service ceiling: 21,400 ft (6,500 m) at 63,000 lb (29,000 kg)
Rate of climb: 720 ft/min (3.7 m/s) at 63,000 lb (29,000 kg) and 9,200 ft (2,800 m) altitude
Armament
Guns: 8 × 0.303 in (7.7 mm) Browning machine guns, (nose (2), dorsal (2) and tail (4) turrets)
Bombs: Maximum normal bomb load of 14,000 lb (6,400 kg) of bombs
Specifications (Winchester Mk III)
General characteristics
Crew: 6; pilot, flight engineer, navigator/ wireless operator, bomb aimer, nose and rear gunners
Length: 67 ft 6 in (21.43 m)
Wingspan: 90 ft (27.46 m)
Height: 18 ft (5.47 m)
Empty weight: 29,000 lb (13,154 kg)
Max takeoff weight: 60,000 lb (27,216 kg)
Powerplant: 2 × English Electric/Napier Sabre Vb H-24-cylinder, liquid-cooled, sleeve valve, piston aero engine, 2,850 hp (2,130 kW) each
Propellers: 4-bladed de Havilland or Rotol constant-speed propellers
Performance
Maximum speed: 295 mph (475 km/h, 256 kn) at 17,000 ft (5,182 m)
Range: 2,250 mi (3,620 km, 1955 nmi) with maximum bomb load of 12,000 lb (5445 kg)
Service ceiling: 20,500 ft (6,250 m)
Armament
Guns: 4 × 20 mm Hispano Mk.III autocannon, (nose (2) and tail (2) turrets)
Bombs: 13,000 lb (5,900 kg) maximum bomb load
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Bomb! B-b-bomb! Bomb!
Bomb! B-b-bomb! Bomb!
Bomb! B-b-bomb! Bomb!
Bomb! B-b-BOMB!
(https://photos.smugmug.com/172-Avro-Mancaster/i-34Q5ndD/0/2dd51d74/X3/DSCN8391-X3.jpg)
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Avro Winchester:
The Winchester had developed an early reputation of unreliability due to its Napier Sabre engines, with the Napier company appearing to be complacent about various issues with the engines, including extremely poor quality control, and the squadron flight crews and maintainers were not too happy about receiving them.
However, Napier had been forcibly acquired by English Electric in December 1941*, on the insistence of the Ministry of Aircraft Production, and English Electric had been quick to rectify the QC issues and had fixed most of the design problems by March 1942, moving on to develop a new turbo-supercharger to improve high-altitude performance. The Winchesters supplied to 465 Squadron RAAF were the latest versions including all of these improvements and were soon loved by the personnel.
Developed in parallel with the Lancaster by Avro to replace its less-than-stellar predecessor, the Manchester, the Winchester was smaller than either aircraft, but not by a lot, and, despite its poor start, had developed into a reliable, relatively fast and agile bomber occupying the niche role of heavy-medium bomber.
Avro Winchester TZ-W (MW496) of 465 Sqn RAAF operating out of RAF Winthorpe:
No. 465 Squadron RAAF was an Article XV Royal Australian Air Force (RAAF) bomber squadron during World War II. Formed in the United Kingdom in July 1942, and flying out of RAF Swinderby, from its formation until January 1943, when the squadron moved barely 5 miles to RAF Winthorpe, due to operational problems during poor weather at their former airfield, the squadron undertook combat operations in Europe until the end of the war, flying the heavy-medium Winchester bomber aircraft.
Unlike most Article XV RAAF squadrons, 465 Squadron benefited from an influx of RAAF graduates of the British Commonwealth Air Training Plan arriving just as it was formed and a little over 30% of its aircrew were Australian, with the rest coming from the other BCATP signatories plus, somehow, a smattering of Poles, Czechs and one Ukrainian, who had fled Stalin’s “Collectivisation” Holodomor.
No. 465 Squadron led a hectic life from the moment it was formed and TZ-W (MW496) was there from the start. By March 1944 she had clocked up 99 missions & had kept 3 crews safe to the end of their tours of duty, with an upgrade from Mk.I to Mk.III, by replacing her English Electric improved Napier Sabre Mk.IIs with English Electric/Napier Sabre Vb (bomber) engines with improved altitude performance (achieved by fitting a much better turbo-supercharger), after her 50th mission.
TZ-W (MW496) was lost with all her crew on the night of the 24th-25th of March, 1944, on the ill-fated final big RAF bombing mission over Berlin. This was her 100th mission and the crew’s final mission before being rotated off front-line combat duties. It is believed she was shot down by a Ju.88 night-fighter.
In memory of all those who lost their lives in Bomber Command, 1939-1945.
(https://photos.smugmug.com/172-Avro-Mancaster/i-XqCLBtv/0/69146dd3/X3/DSCN8376mod-X3.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/172-Avro-Mancaster/i-DbqGxGR/0/e598abda/X3/DSCN8390mod-X3.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/172-Avro-Mancaster/i-sv8kKhV/0/030450a2/X3/DSCN8377mod-X3.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/172-Avro-Mancaster/i-zf6Nmtv/0/9e71a829/X3/DSCN8383mod-X3.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/172-Avro-Mancaster/i-5wbdgHr/0/5097952f/X3/DSCN8379mod-X3.jpg)
[*: This is fudging history a bit by bringing the enforced take-over of Napier by English Electric forward by 12 months.]
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(https://photos.smugmug.com/172-Avro-Mancaster/i-XHKTcG2/0/170560f1/X3/DSCN8382mod-X3.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/172-Avro-Mancaster/i-nSbbxbC/0/a77432f0/X3/DSCN8380mod-X3.jpg)
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(https://photos.smugmug.com/172-Avro-Mancaster/i-q3K8QFc/0/d71f5916/X3/DSCN8384mod-X3.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/172-Avro-Mancaster/i-XwF6MT3/0/bdc88187/X3/DSCN8387mod-X3.jpg)
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(https://photos.smugmug.com/172-Avro-Mancaster/i-ZTzjL8n/0/0a1fa8e2/X3/DSCN8388mod-X3.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/172-Avro-Mancaster/i-FCj9w76/0/3c3d2874/X3/DSCN8395mod-X3.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/172-Avro-Mancaster/i-6VRf8Bk/0/45f14aaf/X3/DSCN8394mod-X3.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/172-Avro-Mancaster/i-JSWj75H/0/d5fc0c67/X3/DSCN8393mod-X3.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/172-Avro-Mancaster/i-NqMtDwH/0/1ecb9da9/X3/DSCN8397mod-X3.jpg)
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And for whoever it was who said that this & the B-25 were comparable:
(https://photos.smugmug.com/172-Avro-Mancaster/i-xDjGdQn/0/0989d5a5/X3/DSCN8398-X3.jpg)
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Subtle brilliance
:icon_alabanza: :icon_alabanza:
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Thanks, BT! :icon_alabanza: :icon_alabanza:
A picture hides a thousand flaws! Or something to that effect. ;)
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Nice! Also adding the Mitchell in gives us a good idea of just how much of a difference there is in size between the two aircraft.
Did you go for a full bomb load on the Manchester? The image showing off the ordnance would suggest a load weighing in at somewhere near 10,000-pounds/5,000-kg. That is quite a lot of hate and discontent.
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Beautiful job! Well worth the wait. Thanks for the B-25 comparison, too.
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:smiley:
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Very nice! And that is some serious-looking turret armament too :smiley:
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Oohh! That's a bit Spesh, that is . . . :D
I wouldn't have the patience to line out all those bombs like that . . . :-[
cheers,
Robin.
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Thank you all very much, gentlemen! :icon_alabanza: :icon_alabanza: :icon_alabanza: :icon_alabanza:
This build evokes a love-hate emotion right now because of all the troubles in the last part of the build & she is far from perfect but, from a distance, she does fulfil her mission. ;)
@Jeff: 12,000 lb of ordnance, so a little under the absolute max. load; from the front we have 4 x 1,000lb GP, 1 x 4,000lb HC & 8 x 500lb SAP, which would be a load-out for an industrial site building heavy components (trains, tanks, submarines, ships, etc.).
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I just realised that my only, slightly drunken, stern view didn't get posted in the main completed post.
So, here it is:
(https://photos.smugmug.com/172-Avro-Mancaster/i-nkTCsjV/0/8e68b69a/X3/DSCN8385mod-X3.jpg)
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Ahhhh :icon_beer:, now that hits the spot 8) 8).
Well done Wombat, great work as usual, looks the part :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:
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Thanks, mate! :smiley:
"Great work"? No. Passable? Yeah, I can accept that. ;)
If you really want to see the dodgy bits, expand the images (click on them) & look at the bomb bay doors (starboard side, especially).
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Oh, that is a dead-sexy bomber you've presented us, OW!
Congrats!
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Thanks, LJ! :icon_alabanza:
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It is a beauty, and a beast! The red accents really add a nice touch.
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Excellent :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:
B-25 comparison photo adds context to better visualize size. Good move.
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Thank you very much, Doc & Bill! :icon_alabanza: :icon_alabanza:
The red markings are those of the fictional 35 Group (Bomber) RAF.
Also, 465 Sqn was an Article XV squadron allocated to the RAAF but was never formed &, as far as I can tell from my research, the TZ squadron code was never used, either.
I know I wrote B-25 but it's really my B-27A (https://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=8963.75), which is, at least, B-25 sized. ;)
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Nice one OW came out really well.
Don't worry about the flaws, I can't see them and to be honest we are all our own worst critic. None of my builds would I describe as perfect.
Mog
>^-.-^<
Looks good against the B-27
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Thanks, 'Mog! :icon_alabanza:
... to be honest we are all our own worst critic.
This I know but let's just say that I wouldn't put in a technically judged modelling comp. ;)
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Wow! Just wow!! How the Manchester should have been - awesome job! :-* :-* :-*
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Thanks heaps, mate! :icon_alabanza: :smiley:
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Thanks, 'Mog! :icon_alabanza:
... to be honest we are all our own worst critic.
This I know but let's just say that I wouldn't put in a technically judged modelling comp. ;)
Hokum... The best place to show it off is at any show, competition or not. This sort of build is worthy of being seen by your peers and interested other parties.
In my mind, overhearing some random member of the public comment on any model about how interesting it is or take a photo, is worth more than any $10 plastic trophy.
You undersell your work.
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Thanks, 'Mog! :icon_alabanza:
... to be honest we are all our own worst critic.
This I know but let's just say that I wouldn't put in a technically judged modelling comp. ;)
Hokum... The best place to show it off is at any show, competition or not. This sort of build is worthy of being seen by your peers and interested other parties.
In my mind, overhearing some random member of the public comment on any model about how interesting it is or take a photo, is worth more than any $10 plastic trophy.
You undersell your work.
I didn't say it wasn't going to be at the SA Scale Model Expo, BT, I just said it wasn't going to be judged in a comp (the punters can talk, photograph & judge as much as they like). ;)
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That's magazine-cover quality work. I'm (happily) humbled. Wow.
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Thank you very much, JHM! :icon_alabanza:
I wish it was that good but the flaws are there & readily visible, if you're looking for them, but, as I've said a few times, I'm still very happy with the result. ;) :smiley:
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A superb build Guy!
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Thanks, Carl! :icon_alabanza: