Author Topic: Apophenia's Offerings (Read 1201574 times)

apophenia · « **Reply #50 on:** January 21, 2012, 12:18:35 PM »

Thanks Greg. Reshaping the leading edge/original intakes would the tricky bit, I'd think.

RCAF Belenus: I've dodged the 408/428 bun-fight (since everyone will remember that RCAF Belenus on Black Bucks didn't carry unit markings or even serials).

So here she is: a 4x8 Sqn Belenus inbound to Port Stanley. Just spotted by an Argie patrol boat, the FE is launching flares while the pilots start jinking...

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #51 on:** January 21, 2012, 12:22:09 PM »

Tricky but not impossible.

Logan Hartke · « **Reply #52 on:** January 21, 2012, 12:33:17 PM »

Pretty...

Cheers,

Logan

Brian da Basher · « **Reply #53 on:** January 21, 2012, 09:46:16 PM »

Your Belenus is fantastic, Apophenia! I really like the idea of the RCAF participating in the Falklands conflict. Adds another dimension to the story.

Brian da Basher

apophenia · « **Reply #54 on:** January 22, 2012, 12:06:46 PM »

Thanks lads. One puzzle on the Belenus is where to put the air brakes. I'm guessing outboard from the Vulcan position (which would be directly in front of the Belenus' intakes).

Quote from: GTX_Admin on January 21, 2012, 12:22:09 PM

Tricky but not impossible.

Nope, PSR, repeat, PSR, repeat ...

apophenia · « **Reply #55 on:** January 22, 2012, 12:08:14 PM »

Just goofing around with this one -- I have a soft spot for the Brewster Buffalo (and similar mutts).

Logan Hartke · « **Reply #56 on:** January 23, 2012, 01:27:01 AM »

Ah, very neat. Looks somewhat like an overweight P-64.

Cheers,

Logan

Tophe · « **Reply #57 on:** January 23, 2012, 01:38:05 AM »

Belated congratulations for the Chimera. And new congratulations for the beautiful Belenus. :)

The Big Gimper · « **Reply #58 on:** January 23, 2012, 02:16:15 AM »

Quote from: apophenia on January 21, 2012, 12:18:35 PM

Thanks Greg. Reshaping the leading edge/original intakes would the tricky bit, I'd think.

RCAF Belenus: I've dodged the 408/428 bun-fight (since everyone will remember that RCAF Belenus on Black Bucks didn't carry unit markings or even serials).

So here she is: a 4x8 Sqn Belenus inbound to Port Stanley. Just spotted by an Argie patrol boat, the FE is launching flares while the pilots start jinking...

That's cheating. No Squadron markings.

Nice job on the BB profile.

BTW there is book written about the first BB mission, pilot, Martin Whithers: Vulcan 607: http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2006/may/20/featuresreviews.guardianreview5

upnorth · « **Reply #59 on:** January 23, 2012, 02:20:36 AM »

Quote from: apophenia on January 22, 2012, 12:06:46 PM

Thanks lads. One puzzle on the Belenus is where to put the air brakes. I'm guessing outboard from the Vulcan position (which would be directly in front of the Belenus' intakes).

How about split aileron arrangement?

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I believe the B-2 bomber has it as well.

elmayerle · « **Reply #60 on:** January 23, 2012, 04:40:50 AM »

Quote from: upnorth on January 23, 2012, 02:20:36 AM

Quote from: apophenia on January 22, 2012, 12:06:46 PM
Thanks lads. One puzzle on the Belenus is where to put the air brakes. I'm guessing outboard from the Vulcan position (which would be directly in front of the Belenus' intakes).

How about split aileron arrangement?

net photo

I believe the B-2 bomber has it as well.

It does. Perhaps the Belenus could also have airbrakes on the top and bottom of the fuselage?

apophenia · « **Reply #61 on:** January 24, 2012, 08:23:42 AM »

Quote from: elmayerle on January 23, 2012, 04:40:50 AM

... Perhaps the Belenus could also have airbrakes on the top and bottom of the fuselage?

Thanks Evan. That'd work but I decided to go with Upnorth's split-ailerons only (although it's hard to tell!)

apophenia · « **Reply #62 on:** January 24, 2012, 08:27:46 AM »

Another oldie ... French-licenced Defiants. Hey, if Boulton Paul could licence the SAMM turret, why couldn't SAMM licence the Defiant

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #63 on:** January 24, 2012, 03:47:17 PM »

Sweet!

Empty Handed · « **Reply #64 on:** January 24, 2012, 08:01:22 PM »

Nice Defiants!

apophenia · « **Reply #65 on:** January 25, 2012, 08:31:27 AM »

Quote from: Empty Handed on January 24, 2012, 08:01:22 PM

Nice Defiants!

Thank EH. [Edit: here's a pair of desert Defiants ... can ya tell I have a thing about S-Guns?]

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #66 on:** January 26, 2012, 06:02:06 AM »

Should be writable again now - though do heed Jon's warning here.

apophenia · « **Reply #67 on:** January 26, 2012, 07:17:54 AM »

Thank Greg, will do. Now, more on that Armstrong-Whitworth Pulaski theme.

The AW.124K was the Kestrel-powered back-up for the Hyena-powered AW.24M/AW.124. Basic armament consisted of twin .303" machineguns synchronised to fire through the propeller disc with the possibility of another four .303"s in the wings. An unbuilt option was the AW.124HS powered by an Hispano-Suiza 12X with a 20mm moteur-canon plus wing guns.

The AW.224 Aries II Export Fighter was the prototype AW.124 re-engined with an AS Panther air-cooled radial. No series orders followed but this aircraft served with the air force of the 'Kwangsi Clique' until written-off in a wheels-up accident in late 1934.

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #68 on:** January 26, 2012, 07:19:05 AM »

Mmmm....

sotoolslinger · « **Reply #69 on:** January 26, 2012, 11:35:23 AM »

Like the heck out of your last offerings :)

Empty Handed · « **Reply #70 on:** January 26, 2012, 09:10:42 PM »

Nice Defiantviks!

As for your latest AWs, great designs but I thought Kwangsi AF was independent and used the triangular markings for a bit after 1934? Certainly by '36/37 they were wearing Canton markings. I ask because I intend to put some of those triangular markings on a couple of mid-30s projects of my own.

McGreig · « **Reply #71 on:** January 27, 2012, 01:56:50 AM »

Love the French Defiants - another one for the why-didn't-I-think-of-that list.

Quote from: Empty Handed on January 26, 2012, 09:10:42 PM

I thought Kwangsi AF was independent and used the triangular markings for a bit after 1934?

Lennart Andersson's “A History of Chinese Aviation” has a section on the Kwangsi Air Force and most of the photos do show aircraft prior to 1937 with a large triangular marking.

The triangle appears to have been white with a thick black border but on some aircraft with dark coloured fuselages (Wapiti, AW-16, Avro 637) the triangle colours are reversed and there are also some machines which appear to have a black-outlined white disc instead of a triangle. So no RLM or Air Ministry civil servant types in Kwangsi then - - -

Also, most photos show only the fuselage – the only photo giving a clear view of the wings is of a crashed Avro 631 which has triangles on its fuselage, a triangle on its port wing upper-surface and a more conventional Chinese star on a red-outlined blue disc (as in Apophenia's AW profile) on its starboard wing!?!?!?

Empty Handed · « **Reply #72 on:** January 27, 2012, 03:22:30 AM »

^ Yes I have that book. I think the confusion lays in Kwangsi's state of only "semi-independence". I think that crashed Avro was just hedging bets as to who allegiance had to be sworn to that week.

Regardless, Kwangsi is a great way of getting 30's British stuff in colours other than the usual suspects. :)

Brian da Basher · « **Reply #73 on:** January 27, 2012, 08:08:49 AM »

I really like your AW Aries and I think the Kwangsi version could fool many!

Super work, Apophenia!

Brian da Basher

Geoff · « **Reply #74 on:** January 28, 2012, 03:46:54 AM »

Quote from: apophenia on January 25, 2012, 08:31:27 AM

Quote from: Empty Handed on January 24, 2012, 08:01:22 PM
Nice Defiants!

Thank EH. [Edit: here's a pair of desert Defiants ... can ya tell I have a thing about S-Guns?]

These two I really like!


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