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Modelling => Ideas & Inspiration => Land => Topic started by: ChernayaAkula on February 13, 2012, 11:54:12 AM

Title: BTR-60/70/80/90 - Soviet/Russian wheeled APCs
Post by: ChernayaAkula on February 13, 2012, 11:54:12 AM: Found this rather interesting image of a 1/1 whif:

A Djiboutian BTR-60PB with turret of an AML-90.

(http://www.valka.cz/ADMIN/REDAKCE/buko1/BVP/BTR-60_AML-90.jpg)
SOURCE (http://forum.valka.cz/viewtopic.php/t/49240) (with another pic)

The Soviet also trialled something similar on a BTR-70. Used an 85mm gun and was called 2S14. Nothing came of it, though.

(http://forum.valka.cz/files/2s14blackwhite_100.jpg)
SOURCE (http://forum.valka.cz/viewtopic.php/t/54830)

Here are a couple of my takes on vehicles built on the BTR-80 family:

Tank destroyer (would need a lot of internal re-arranging to make this)
(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m309/ChernayaAkula/BTR-80%20WhIfs/BTR-72.gif)

Tank destroyer (more conservative take)
(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m309/ChernayaAkula/BTR-80%20WhIfs/BTR-72Arevised.gif)

Air defence (with 2S6 Tunguska turret)
(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m309/ChernayaAkula/BTR-80%20WhIfs/BTR-80_Tunguska.gif)

Stretched
(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m309/ChernayaAkula/BTR-80%20WhIfs/BTR-10010x10.gif)

Getting silly...
(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m309/ChernayaAkula/BTR-80%20WhIfs/BTR-120A-12x12.gif)

Even built the less ambitious tank destroyer in 1/72 (hull from Trumpeter BTR-80, turret from Revell T-72M). All it needs are some blanking plates on the muzzle brake and a lick of paint....

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m309/ChernayaAkula/BTR-80%20WhIfs/SD530843.jpg)
Title: Re: BTR-60/70/80/90 - Soviet/Russian wheeled APCs
Post by: GTX_Admin on February 13, 2012, 04:33:23 PM: I like your thinking!
Title: Re: BTR-60/70/80/90 - Soviet/Russian wheeled APCs
Post by: LemonJello on February 14, 2012, 10:15:59 AM: Really digging that tank destroyer! Could be export competition for the Centauro, or Soviet-era copy for third world "fraternal socialist allies" that don't want/need the T-55?
Title: Re: BTR-60/70/80/90 - Soviet/Russian wheeled APCs
Post by: apophenia on February 15, 2012, 07:15:30 AM: Quote from: ChernayaAkula on February 13, 2012, 11:54:12 AM
Even built the less ambitious tank destroyer in 1/72 (hull from Trumpeter BTR-80, turret from Revell T-72M). All it needs are some blanking plates on the muzzle brake and a lick of paint....

Nice! That looks very believable. It's also easy to imagine less well-refined versions recycling older BTR hulls and T-55 turrets ... more akin to that Djibouti BTR-60 that you found.
Title: Re: BTR-60/70/80/90 - Soviet/Russian wheeled APCs
Post by: elmayerle on February 15, 2012, 09:46:06 AM: "Getting silly" is obviously the executive-protection stretch limo model. :D Be interesting to see it pulled up to an executive aircraft.
Title: Re: BTR-60/70/80/90 - Soviet/Russian wheeled APCs
Post by: GTX_Admin on February 15, 2012, 05:12:07 PM: Quote from: elmayerle on February 15, 2012, 09:46:06 AM
"Getting silly" is obviously the executive-protection stretch limo model. :D Be interesting to see it pulled up to an executive aircraft.

I love this idea! ;D
Title: Re: BTR-60/70/80/90 - Soviet/Russian wheeled APCs
Post by: Weaver on February 15, 2012, 08:52:15 PM: The executive aircraft should be a "pimped" Tu-22 Blinder, of course..... >:D
Title: Re: BTR-60/70/80/90 - Soviet/Russian wheeled APCs
Post by: GTX_Admin on February 16, 2012, 02:26:56 AM: Quote from: Weaver on February 15, 2012, 08:52:15 PM
The executive aircraft should be a "pimped" Tu-22 Blinder, of course..... >:D

Or maybe:

(http://www.suchoj.com/andere/Tu-344/images/Tu-344_02.jpg)
Title: Re: BTR-60/70/80/90 - Soviet/Russian wheeled APCs
Post by: upnorth on February 29, 2012, 03:09:11 PM: Here's a BTR of some description:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e59/cancze/NATO%20Day%202008/2008_0920natoday080085.jpg)
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e59/cancze/NATO%20Day%202008/2008_0920natoday080084.jpg)
Title: Re: BTR-60/70/80/90 - Soviet/Russian wheeled APCs
Post by: apophenia on March 01, 2012, 06:09:57 AM: Thanks for all the great ref photos upnorth! That's not really a BTR though. It's a command variant of the Czech/Polish OT-64 SKOT series (I think it's the VSOT-64/R3MT model but can't be certain).
Title: Re: BTR-60/70/80/90 - Soviet/Russian wheeled APCs
Post by: GTX_Admin on June 22, 2014, 05:44:41 AM: Thread Revival: What about a BTR series vehicle with a retractable set of anti-tank missiles similar to that on the BRDM series:

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_eQNPu6zzxaU/SqBelraaAlI/AAAAAAAAX0c/02ji07yyH9o/s400/zz10906.jpg)
Title: Re: BTR-60/70/80/90 - Soviet/Russian wheeled APCs
Post by: GTX_Admin on August 23, 2015, 06:42:32 AM: Errr...comrade...I'm not so sure about this one:

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-NXCUYXl9P04/U4LvZKNGo8I/AAAAAAAAAvY/zTCbG0q3Fy4/s1600/IMG_8491.JPG)
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-AoXNhHeIxkw/U4Lw5n6LB5I/AAAAAAAAAvk/Z8L1AOadqKs/s1600/IMG_8492.JPG)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-cuJZuZ3K0TU/U4LxAIaLKVI/AAAAAAAAAvs/qbAURMGyTzI/s1600/IMG_8494.JPG)
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-N3IWvGYbN1o/U4LxFFEyylI/AAAAAAAAAv0/UiXgXnUl6Bw/s1600/IMG_8493.JPG)
Title: Re: BTR-60/70/80/90 - Soviet/Russian wheeled APCs
Post by: Old Wombat on August 23, 2015, 07:52:01 PM: Quote from: GTX_Admin on August 23, 2015, 06:42:32 AM
([url]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-NXCUYXl9P04/U4LvZKNGo8I/AAAAAAAAAvY/zTCbG0q3Fy4/s1600/IMG_8491.JPG[/url])

I saw that & instantly my mind came up with;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQTq88Ie5sU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQTq88Ie5sU)

It was a scary moment! :o
Title: Re: BTR-60/70/80/90 - Soviet/Russian wheeled APCs
Post by: GTX_Admin on August 24, 2015, 02:23:39 AM: Now that brings back memories...and that song is stuck in my head all day now!
Title: Re: BTR-60/70/80/90 - Soviet/Russian wheeled APCs
Post by: Old Wombat on August 24, 2015, 10:53:11 PM: :icon_music: >:D ;D
Title: Re: BTR-60/70/80/90 - Soviet/Russian wheeled APCs
Post by: Rickshaw on August 30, 2015, 01:00:14 PM: From Cuba!

BTR-60 chassis with T-55 turret

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-1Y-xRX38wGc/UbGR58Tly0I/AAAAAAAAFDU/ap_r2Wwbn40/s320/btr-60_with_t-55_105mm_gun_turret_cuban_cuba_army_military_parade_havana_revolution_square_april_16_2011_006.jpg)

Self propelled anti-aircraft guns using BTR-60 chassis with open ZSU-57-2 style turret.

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-qYPsMSrJHLo/UafJ596VgKI/AAAAAAAACwM/D2dxLJmNj3E/s320/btr-60_with_zu-57-2_turret_cuban_cuba_army_military_parade_havana_revolution_square_april_16_2011_003.jpg)

BRDM-2 mortar carrier

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-34-41F3S990/UjJpJq197yI/AAAAAAAAMsc/RNMBjS71Ar0/s320/Cuban+BRDM+mortar+carrier.jpg)
Title: Re: BTR-60/70/80/90 - Soviet/Russian wheeled APCs
Post by: GTX_Admin on August 30, 2015, 01:04:04 PM: Wicked!
Title: Re: BTR-60/70/80/90 - Soviet/Russian wheeled APCs
Post by: ysi_maniac on January 16, 2018, 05:02:44 AM: Is this a whif?

https://www.ebay.es/itm/UNIQUE-US-LAV-25-ARMOURED-VEHICLE-BUILT-PAINTED-1-35/312045629791?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D20170831090034%26meid%3D743ede92cd3047f3b242462a5fc135b5%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D292404209917&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851 (https://www.ebay.es/itm/UNIQUE-US-LAV-25-ARMOURED-VEHICLE-BUILT-PAINTED-1-35/312045629791?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D20170831090034%26meid%3D743ede92cd3047f3b242462a5fc135b5%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D292404209917&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851)
Title: Re: BTR-60/70/80/90 - Soviet/Russian wheeled APCs
Post by: Frank3k on January 16, 2018, 06:28:27 AM: Don't know if it is, but fitting the Gatling, its ammo, turret, control electronics and all that crew gear plus four crew into that vehicle is going to be tough. It looks a bit like the LAV-AD (https://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/lav-ad.htm)
Title: Re: BTR-60/70/80/90 - Soviet/Russian wheeled APCs
Post by: Jeffry Fontaine on January 16, 2018, 08:14:33 AM: Quote from: ysi_maniac on January 16, 2018, 05:02:44 AM
Is this a whif?

Most definitely a whif.

IRL there is very little room inside the BTR-60PB. Having had first hand experience with sitting inside of a BTR-60PB that was in my unit motor pool at Fort Lewis, Washington back in 1977. It was very crowded and no room to do much of anything save sit and face the guy sitting across from you.

Plus, the M163 VADS turret is much more than what you see on top of the vehicle. There is much underneath the turret that is not seen such as the very large ammunition drum that feeds the weapon. This is suspended beneath the turret and rotates with it.

Great little diorama the guy has going there but definitely a whif. ;)
Title: Re: BTR-60/70/80/90 - Soviet/Russian wheeled APCs
Post by: dy031101 on August 26, 2018, 12:58:14 AM: Radical BTR-60 upgrade by Muromteplovoz JSC, unveiled in 2011: engine moved forward and troop compartment moved to the rear with raised roof.
Title: Re: BTR-60/70/80/90 - Soviet/Russian wheeled APCs
Post by: perttime on August 26, 2018, 04:06:08 PM: In 1991, seven Finnish conscripts drowned when their BTR-60 R-145BM sunk during an amphibious exercise. The vehicle was incorrectly loaded, and the hatches were opened because the cooling system was set wrong and the engines were overheating. A wave got them when they had to slow down.
Title: Re: BTR-60/70/80/90 - Soviet/Russian wheeled APCs
Post by: GTX_Admin on September 02, 2018, 05:00:36 AM: Quote from: dy031101 on August 26, 2018, 12:58:14 AM
Radical BTR-60 upgrade by Muromteplovoz JSC, unveiled in 2011: engine moved forward and troop compartment moved to the rear with raised roof.

Interesting
Title: Re: BTR-60/70/80/90 - Soviet/Russian wheeled APCs
Post by: dy031101 on December 25, 2018, 08:42:22 AM: Otaman 8 x 8 by Practika of Ukraine, built on a recycled BTR-60 chassis and suspension but with a new hull, front-mounted engine, and reduced side armour sloping in order to maximize internal space. According to the manufacturer, however, the use of higher-quality armour plating maintained the protection level.

(Although I don't imagine that it'd mean much, since the BTR-60 itself isn't exactly well-endowed with armours by post-Cold War standards, either......)
Title: Re: BTR-60/70/80/90 - Soviet/Russian wheeled APCs
Post by: dy031101 on December 25, 2018, 08:48:19 AM: BTR-60MK by CDET of Ukraine, a far more modest upgrade- new engines, new gunsight for the machinegun turret, and applique armour panels covering most of its body, including passenger hatches.
Title: Re: BTR-60/70/80/90 - Soviet/Russian wheeled APCs
Post by: dy031101 on October 10, 2019, 09:41:07 AM: Practika of Ukraine apparently isn't done with the idea of converting the BTR-60 into Otaman yet. (https://www.kyivpost.com/ukraine-politics/new-marine-armored-personnel-carrier-presented-in-kyiv.html?cn-reloaded=1)
Title: Re: BTR-60/70/80/90 - Soviet/Russian wheeled APCs
Post by: ysi_maniac on July 07, 2021, 09:41:42 AM: BTR-70ZD and BTR60ZD

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/j340/ysi_maniac/BTR-60-70-ZD.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds) (https://app.photobucket.com/u/ysi_maniac/a/e58f1c54-aee2-42c9-bc15-f72ec22af374/p/19739820-26e2-4905-a43e-292cfac07370)
Title: Re: BTR-60/70/80/90 - Soviet/Russian wheeled APCs
Post by: ysi_maniac on July 07, 2021, 09:50:38 AM: Cavalry/recce role.

BTR-70 with downscaled ZSU-57 turret

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/j340/ysi_maniac/btr-70-recce.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds) (https://app.photobucket.com/u/ysi_maniac/a/e58f1c54-aee2-42c9-bc15-f72ec22af374/p/7dd4b92d-0081-44c4-ad19-35d5bf8d6fa5)
Title: Re: BTR-60/70/80/90 - Soviet/Russian wheeled APCs
Post by: ysi_maniac on July 08, 2021, 10:57:06 PM: ZSU-57 turret on different bases.

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/j340/ysi_maniac/t-34_btr-60_zsu-57.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds) (https://app.photobucket.com/u/ysi_maniac/a/e58f1c54-aee2-42c9-bc15-f72ec22af374/p/b15c9416-f3bd-4060-8f4a-71d6732fe35f)
Title: Re: BTR-60/70/80/90 - Soviet/Russian wheeled APCs
Post by: ysi_maniac on July 10, 2021, 11:33:16 AM: What if Sweden helps Ukraine with some obsolete, but useful, bits that are supplemented by ukranians themselves?

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/j340/ysi_maniac/BTR70_ucrania.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds) (https://app.photobucket.com/u/ysi_maniac/a/e58f1c54-aee2-42c9-bc15-f72ec22af374/p/c520d3cd-6cf0-4388-9e80-18d29ba7086b)
Title: Re: BTR-60/70/80/90 - Soviet/Russian wheeled APCs
Post by: Frank3k on July 10, 2021, 12:03:39 PM: Those look good. I like the Pbv 301 with the 20 or 30mm gun.
Title: Re: BTR-60/70/80/90 - Soviet/Russian wheeled APCs
Post by: GTX_Admin on July 11, 2021, 01:37:07 AM: Quote from: Frank3k on July 10, 2021, 12:03:39 PM
Those look good. I like the Pbv 301 with the 20 or 30mm gun.

Bofors 20 mm automatkanon m/45B if i'm correct:

(https://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/coldwar/Sweden/photos/Pansarbandvagn_301_Revinge_2013-1.jpg)
Title: Re: BTR-60/70/80/90 - Soviet/Russian wheeled APCs
Post by: apophenia on July 11, 2021, 07:36:56 AM: Quote from: GTX_Admin on July 11, 2021, 01:37:07 AM
Bofors 20 mm automatkanon m/45B if i'm correct...

Yep, it would have been the akan m/45B on Swedish service vehicles. If I'm not mistaken, though, Carlos has substituted a BPPU OWS from a BTR-80A here.
Title: Re: BTR-60/70/80/90 - Soviet/Russian wheeled APCs
Post by: ysi_maniac on July 12, 2021, 08:15:42 AM: ^^^^^Yes, it is a russian turret.
Title: Re: BTR-60/70/80/90 - Soviet/Russian wheeled APCs
Post by: ysi_maniac on September 18, 2021, 12:13:17 PM: I love proper windows in AFVs :smiley: ;)

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/j340/ysi_maniac/PlaneCockpitBTR.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds) (https://app.photobucket.com/u/ysi_maniac/a/e58f1c54-aee2-42c9-bc15-f72ec22af374/p/e3e1096b-f2c7-47e7-8125-c52942470d30)
Title: Re: BTR-60/70/80/90 - Soviet/Russian wheeled APCs
Post by: ysi_maniac on September 21, 2021, 04:29:56 AM: ... with proper doors ;D

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/j340/ysi_maniac/PlaneCockpitBTR(1).jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds) (https://app.photobucket.com/u/ysi_maniac/a/e58f1c54-aee2-42c9-bc15-f72ec22af374/p/572fd913-7375-40c7-a3f8-a78d8af1ff7b)
Title: Re: BTR-60/70/80/90 - Soviet/Russian wheeled APCs
Post by: GTX_Admin on October 03, 2021, 04:18:23 AM: https://thesovietarmourblog.blogspot.com/2014/11/btr-80.html
Title: Re: BTR-60/70/80/90 - Soviet/Russian wheeled APCs
Post by: Story on October 20, 2021, 10:18:09 PM: Related humor

(https://i.imgflip.com/49zjl4.jpg)
Title: Re: BTR-60/70/80/90 - Soviet/Russian wheeled APCs
Post by: Old Wombat on October 21, 2021, 01:22:30 AM: ;D :smiley:
Title: Re: BTR-60/70/80/90 - Soviet/Russian wheeled APCs
Post by: GTX_Admin on October 21, 2021, 08:12:37 PM: ;D :smiley:
Title: Re: BTR-60/70/80/90 - Soviet/Russian wheeled APCs
Post by: Story on September 28, 2023, 02:51:54 PM: (https://i.imgur.com/cNvN24T.jpg)

1v18 Klyon 1 Artillery Command & Forward Observer APC (BTR-60PB w more radios), Russian 237th Tank Regiment in the Ukraine.
Title: Re: BTR-60/70/80/90 - Soviet/Russian wheeled APCs
Post by: raafif on September 29, 2023, 06:51:54 AM: Are those mattresses for the crew to sleep on or anti-drone protection ? ;D
Title: Re: BTR-60/70/80/90 - Soviet/Russian wheeled APCs
Post by: Old Wombat on September 29, 2023, 06:34:54 PM: Stolen from a Ukrainian rubber & plastic supplies store to send home to mat' & babushka.
Title: Re: BTR-60/70/80/90 - Soviet/Russian wheeled APCs
Post by: GTX_Admin on October 31, 2023, 03:14:21 AM: Cuban BTR-100 which combines a BTR-60 with T-55 turret:

(https://www.armyrecognition.com/images/stories/news/2023/october/BTR-100_925_001.jpg)

More info: https://www.armyrecognition.com/defense_news_october_2023_global_security_army_industry/meet_cuba_s_btr-100_recon_vehicle_that_blends_a_btr-60_apc_with_a_t-55_tank_turret.html (https://www.armyrecognition.com/defense_news_october_2023_global_security_army_industry/meet_cuba_s_btr-100_recon_vehicle_that_blends_a_btr-60_apc_with_a_t-55_tank_turret.html)
Title: Re: BTR-60/70/80/90 - Soviet/Russian wheeled APCs
Post by: Story on October 31, 2023, 04:31:06 AM: The Cubans based the turret on the T55's but it's not an exact copy - lots of angles, Cadillac Gage style

https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/cuba/btr-100.htm (https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/cuba/btr-100.htm)

https://defencehub.live/threads/btr-60-bp-100-cuba.6905/ (https://defencehub.live/threads/btr-60-bp-100-cuba.6905/)