Author Topic: Claymore's AH AFVs: Take 2  (Read 144543 times)

Offline Claymore

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Re: Claymore's AH AFVs: Take 2
« Reply #125 on: November 20, 2016, 09:22:57 PM »
Really like this. Top job

You built an interesting machine there,I really like it...a lot  :-* !!!

Thank you, it's very much appreciated.  :)
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Offline Claymore

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Re: Claymore's AH AFVs: Take 2
« Reply #126 on: December 25, 2016, 01:48:50 AM »
Here's wishing you all a very merry Christmas...  :)

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Re: Claymore's AH AFVs: Take 2
« Reply #127 on: December 25, 2016, 10:04:30 AM »
And to you too!

Offline Brian da Basher

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Re: Claymore's AH AFVs: Take 2
« Reply #128 on: December 26, 2016, 12:54:26 PM »
Here's wishing you all a very merry Christmas...  :)




May you have the happiest of holiday seasons and best wishes for the New Year!

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Offline Claymore

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Re: Claymore's AH AFVs: Take 2
« Reply #129 on: January 01, 2017, 12:52:46 AM »
May I wish you all the very best for a safe, prosperous and happy New Year.

Slangevar! - or to be more precise in Scottish Gaelic, "Slainte Mhath!"  :icon_beer:  :)

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Re: Claymore's AH AFVs: Take 2
« Reply #130 on: January 01, 2017, 05:48:15 PM »
Mmmmm.. nice.

Looking forward to a great new year and more or your most excellent builds

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Re: Claymore's AH AFVs: Take 2
« Reply #131 on: January 02, 2017, 10:32:49 AM »
Mmmmm.. nice.

Looking forward to a great new year and more or your most excellent builds

Hear hear!

Happy New Year all. I hope the hangovers aren't too brutal.

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Offline Claymore

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Re: Claymore's AH AFVs: Take 2
« Reply #132 on: February 12, 2017, 10:06:41 PM »
M60A4 Avenger

The M60A2 with its narrow profile turret and M48 152-mm gun/launcher entered service with the US Army in 1972. The large calibre gun capable of firing high explosive for infantry support and the MGM-51 Shillelagh guided missile for long-range anti-tank engagements mounted on the standard M60 hull seemed like a winning combination. However, the Shillelagh missile never lived up to expectation and to make matters worse, when the 152mm gun was fired, the excessive blast and recoil tended to throw the sensitive missile tracking optics and electronics out of alignment. No solution could be found to the conundrum and by 1981 the M60A2 had been withdrawn from frontline service.

In the late 1970s, when it was becoming obvious that the writing was on the wall for the M60A2, plans were drawn up to have the majority of the redundant vehicles stripped of their turrets and converted into the US Army’s now standard M60A3 Main Battle Tank (MBT).  However, at the same time a number of unique projects were considered to take advantage of the impending surplus of vehicles. One such project was the M60A4 Avenger.

Having witnessed the Israeli Defence Force’s (IDF) Magach 5 Avenger, itself a combination of M48 hull, M60A2 turret and the 7-barrelled, 30mm, GAU-8 rotary-cannon, in the escort role, there was interest in certain quarters for the US Army to have a similar capability.  The M60A2’s narrow profile ‘Starship’ turret was duly converted to accept the impressive bulk of the GAU-8 and its ammunition feed system.  It is worthy of note that the US Army decided to follow the IDF’s lead in mounting the GAU-8 in the same linear configuration as was intended for its installation into the A-10 Thunderbolt II; fortuitously, the M60A2 turret lent itself to this design.

The end result was an elegant, yet brutal looking vehicle that promised much. 

Whilst the initial trials conducted at Fort Knox confirmed the hopes of many and inspired all who saw it in action, particularly the infantry, they also highlighted some noticeable shortcomings and doctrinal failings.  With each 1 second burst capable of firing 35 x 30mm rounds down range, the M60A4 Avenger was extremely adept at chewing up soft-skin and light armoured vehicles, not to mention buildings and infantry defensive positions.  Not entirely surprisingly, its ability against any heavily armoured vehicle was less assured and whilst capable of inflicting mobility or sensor kills, just did not have the punch in its 30mm rounds to defeat the frontal armour of most modern MBTs.  With no long-range anti-tank capability the Avenger was at a disadvantage.  It also became apparent that in its escort role, and the urban escort role in particular, the GAU-8 was just too big for the job.  Smaller weapon systems, such as the 20mm M61 Vulcan rotary-cannon, were just as capable, were more easily mounted and could carry more ammunition.  It was further argued that a vehicle mounting the small cannon would allow for a complimentary long-range missile system to be added. 

There have been very few armoured vehicles produced that have been quite so impressive when firing on the range as the M60A4 Avenger and yet so perplexing as to how it might be employed.  Of the 20 vehicles produced, all remained with the school of armour at Fort Knox waiting for a doctrinal or tactical evolution that never came to pass before eventually being retired form service in 1988.  The last 2 surviving vehicles can be found at Fort Benning and the Aberdeen Proving Ground Museum.

The model depicts M60A4 Avenger, callsign 41, as it appeared at the end of the initial trials at Fort Knox in the summer of 1979 and is constructed from an Academy M60A2 and various scratch built parts.


















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Offline Brian da Basher

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Re: Claymore's AH AFVs: Take 2
« Reply #133 on: February 13, 2017, 10:02:36 AM »
Now that's what I call a Big Frickin' Bunch of Guns!

The black scheme is perfect as if that gat isn't menacing enough!

Great stuff!

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Offline apophenia

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Re: Claymore's AH AFVs: Take 2
« Reply #134 on: February 13, 2017, 10:39:08 AM »
Oh, that is seriously cool  :)
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Offline Claymore

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Re: Claymore's AH AFVs: Take 2
« Reply #135 on: February 13, 2017, 03:15:31 PM »
Thanks chaps, much appreciated.
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Offline LemonJello

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Re: Claymore's AH AFVs: Take 2
« Reply #136 on: February 13, 2017, 08:23:54 PM »
In the words of George Takei: "Oh, My!"

That is, simply put, awesome.

Offline LRB

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Re: Claymore's AH AFVs: Take 2
« Reply #137 on: February 14, 2017, 03:47:52 AM »
Great work Claymore, and a very plausible backstory.

Offline Claymore

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Re: Claymore's AH AFVs: Take 2
« Reply #138 on: February 14, 2017, 04:37:10 AM »
Thanks muchly good Sirs!  :)
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Re: Claymore's AH AFVs: Take 2
« Reply #139 on: February 14, 2017, 05:36:51 PM »
Yep, a bloody good job, old son! :) :)
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Offline Claymore

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Re: Claymore's AH AFVs: Take 2
« Reply #140 on: February 15, 2017, 06:53:02 AM »
I thank you!  :)
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Re: Claymore's AH AFVs: Take 2
« Reply #141 on: February 15, 2017, 10:49:49 AM »
Great Skills ... Tick
terrific Concept .... Tick

Over all awesomeness... Tick, Tick


Offline elmayerle

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Re: Claymore's AH AFVs: Take 2
« Reply #142 on: February 15, 2017, 11:44:32 AM »
Great Skills ... Tick
terrific Concept .... Tick

Over all awesomeness... Tick, Tick
+1  Gorgeous piece of work there and quite plausible.

Offline Claymore

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Re: Claymore's AH AFVs: Take 2
« Reply #143 on: February 15, 2017, 03:12:09 PM »
Thank you both.  :)
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Offline LRB

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Re: Claymore's AH AFVs: Take 2
« Reply #144 on: February 17, 2017, 05:21:02 PM »
What's next on the build list Claymore?

Offline Claymore

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Re: Claymore's AH AFVs: Take 2
« Reply #145 on: February 18, 2017, 08:05:32 AM »
Funny you should mention that my good fellow but I think it might be a certain brace of Cambodian heavy armour. Centurions and Chieftains ahoy!  ;)
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Offline Claymore

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Re: Claymore's AH AFVs: Take 2
« Reply #146 on: February 19, 2017, 12:58:57 AM »
M60A4 Avenger Update:

All spruced up and ready for shipping.

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Offline LRB

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Re: Claymore's AH AFVs: Take 2
« Reply #147 on: February 19, 2017, 04:34:58 AM »
Comes up quite nicely, in its walking out kit.

How did you mount the tank to the base?

Offline Claymore

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Re: Claymore's AH AFVs: Take 2
« Reply #148 on: February 19, 2017, 06:25:26 AM »
That she does.   ;)

There is a bolt that runs through the base and into the hull. So although firmly attached, if necessary, the model can still be removed from the base.
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Offline Claymore

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Re: Claymore's AH AFVs: Take 2
« Reply #149 on: March 13, 2017, 03:26:04 AM »
Cambodian Centurion (Tiger) Update:

Here are the first WIP pics of phase 1 of the current project being undertaken for LRB. No spoilers as yet folks...

I still need to make and add a mantlet cover, add the smoke dischargers, add an IR searchlight, add the commander's MG, finish off the rear end and add some detailing before starting on the paint job. Lovely, jubbly...







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