Author Topic: Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-29 Ideas and Inspiration (Read 20108 times)

GTX_Admin · « **on:** December 29, 2011, 03:05:23 AM »

Hi folks,

A thread dedicated to your Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-29 ideas and inspiration.

To start off, how about a crude single engined MiG-29?

Regards,

Greg

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #1 on:** December 29, 2011, 03:08:01 AM »

The Super Fulcrum was to the Fulcrum what the Super Hornet was to the Hornet (conventional MiG included for comparison):

And although produced, the single seat version was no where near as useful or as popular:

Regards,

Greg

Maverick · « **Reply #2 on:** December 29, 2011, 03:50:12 AM »

Certainly looks like a natural evolution of the type.

Regards,

John

ChernayaAkula · « **Reply #3 on:** December 29, 2011, 02:14:40 PM »

Quote from: GTX_Admin on December 29, 2011, 03:05:23 AM

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To start off, how about a crude single engined MiG-29?

And here's the head-on view of that!

Basically the two intakes drawn together. The intake area is somewhere between a single and both normal inlets, to allow for increased need for air for the more powerful engine.

EDIT: Regarding the engine:
How about a D30F-6 from a MiG-31 Foxhound? 93 kN dry and 153 kN reheated vs. 100 kN dry and 162 kN reheated from two RD-33s in the normal MiG-29

fulcrum · « **Reply #4 on:** December 29, 2011, 03:04:14 PM »

Could there be a side view of it?

ChernayaAkula · « **Reply #5 on:** December 30, 2011, 10:01:43 AM »

^ Unless Greg did one, there isn't. I didn't do one as I though it wouldn't be all that much different in the side view.

fulcrum · « **Reply #6 on:** December 30, 2011, 03:36:45 PM »

Quote from: ChernayaAkula on December 30, 2011, 10:01:43 AM

^ Unless Greg did one, there isn't. I didn't do one as I though it wouldn't be all that much different in the side view.

It's alright, it is not that important.

Stargazer2006 · « **Reply #7 on:** January 04, 2012, 08:02:56 AM »

Allow me to present here the Mikoyan MiG-29RV (NATO: "Fulcrum-Q"). The text of the advertisement is supposed to read: "It is our greatest asset for the future, and yet none of our pilots can fly it" but I'm told I made a few Russian mistakes...

ysi_maniac · « **Reply #8 on:** September 06, 2012, 02:29:31 AM »

With Flogger bits: canopy and single tail fin

Daryl J. · « **Reply #9 on:** September 29, 2012, 12:06:04 AM »

Puts thinking cap on, looks at Academy kit in the basement, and thinks misshapen model kits are a great from-the-factory base for versions which never were.....

taiidantomcat · « **Reply #10 on:** September 30, 2012, 11:30:48 PM »

I remember seeing a "HIMAT" Mig-29 at the old site, But I can't find it anywhere. East german markings... any help out there?

Daryl J. · « **Reply #11 on:** October 13, 2012, 04:24:20 AM »

Ogival main wings similar in planform to the Su-27 prototype. Wasn't that called the T-10 or something? "Prototype'' styled remaining flying surfaces.

Central American/South American jungle camouflage.

Red/White checkerboard tail, red spine RAF (Whichever squadron it was that flew the Lightning in those markings)

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #12 on:** October 13, 2012, 04:52:00 AM »

Quote from: Daryl J. on October 13, 2012, 04:24:20 AM

Ogival main wings similar in planform to the Su-27 prototype. Wasn't that called the T-10 or something?

Correct - T-10:

Would look interesting on the MiG-29

kitnut617 · « **Reply #13 on:** October 14, 2012, 12:59:47 AM »

or this --

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #14 on:** July 14, 2013, 06:38:44 AM »

Fond on web:

ChrisF · « **Reply #15 on:** July 14, 2013, 08:35:42 AM »

One of the long term builds on my top shelf is a RAF Mig-29... The idea was what if instead of a special relationship with america during WW2 a relationship had developed with russia... Fast forward a few years and the Tornado ADV never happened....

I got as far as the cockpit and other builds got in the way...

Daryl J. · « **Reply #16 on:** September 22, 2013, 11:24:33 AM »

Electronic jamming package hung beneath the the wings of a MiG-29UB

ysi_maniac · « **Reply #17 on:** September 22, 2013, 10:57:17 PM »

Quote from: GTX_Admin on July 14, 2013, 06:38:44 AM

Fond on web:

I love this!

ysi_maniac · « **Reply #18 on:** September 22, 2013, 10:58:13 PM »

Hi kitnut, your idea is just wonderful! :)

Daryl J. · « **Reply #19 on:** September 28, 2013, 02:27:52 AM »

Was the MiG-29 ever used as a bomb truck?

Jeffry Fontaine · « **Reply #20 on:** September 28, 2013, 03:15:32 AM »

Quote from: Daryl J. on September 28, 2013, 02:27:52 AM

Was the MiG-29 ever used as a bomb truck?

Yes it was, yes it can carry bombs and other ordnance. The MiG-29 replaced the MiG-23 and MiG-27 in addition to the Su-17/22/ Fitter. The aircraft is capable of carrying variety of air to ground munitions/stores to include nuclear free fall bombs, rockets, and precision guided air to surface weapons. These weapons use stores pylons that are different in shape from those used for air to air weapons.

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #21 on:** September 28, 2013, 05:47:52 AM »

It also depends upon how you define 'bomb truck' since often ground attack is carried out using missiles rather then conventional bombs.

Daryl J. · « **Reply #22 on:** September 29, 2013, 05:22:10 AM »

Essentially the equivalent of the F-16 is what I'm enquiring about but the above is enough to validate the concept.
Thanks.

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #23 on:** September 29, 2013, 06:11:04 AM »

One of these days, I want to do a MiG-29KUB:

Daryl J. · « **Reply #24 on:** October 04, 2013, 05:33:57 AM »

One word comprehensive review of the Great Wall Hobby MiG-29 9-13: Jawdrop.

OK, that being put forth one look through of the kit made it pretty clear I'd like to build it up clean save for a centerline pod. Methinks a combination fuel/recce pod would serve well enough.

(Yes, there is another kit in Ye Olde Stash awaiting its stores.)

Daryl J. · « **Reply #25 on:** February 02, 2014, 02:50:32 AM »

Polish MiG-29 carrying a pair of RBS-15's

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #26 on:** February 02, 2014, 04:10:08 AM »

Different...I like.

Daryl J. · « **Reply #27 on:** February 02, 2014, 04:33:27 AM »

Why thank-you.

Hoping to source the missiles out of the KH Gripen and hang them beneath the GWH kit.

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #28 on:** February 02, 2014, 04:34:54 AM »

Maybe have the MiG-29s have a full makeover re avionics etc as well?

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #29 on:** March 20, 2014, 01:16:27 PM »

Interesting tail markings:

raafif · « **Reply #30 on:** January 27, 2015, 12:46:12 PM »

how about this aircraft with red roo roundels for a communist Australia ?

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #31 on:** January 28, 2015, 04:24:00 AM »

Cool.

Alternatively, what if Russia and Australia did a deal whereby Russia paid for some of its debt/beef/wheat imports using MiGs etc (just as they did/tried with other areas). Maybe even have the MiG-29s as a dedicated aggressor unit?

upnorth · « **Reply #32 on:** January 28, 2015, 02:25:26 PM »

Quote from: GTX_Admin on January 28, 2015, 04:24:00 AM

Cool.

Alternatively, what if Russia and Australia did a deal whereby Russia paid for some of its debt/beef/wheat imports using MiGs etc (just as they did/tried with other areas). Maybe even have the MiG-29s as a dedicated aggressor unit?

That makes me wonder what kind of western re-engining you could do on a Fulcrum.

F-414.....EJ200......M88?

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #33 on:** January 28, 2015, 03:37:22 PM »

Well, all are physically smaller than the RD-33 so could (with some fancy engineering) be fitted to a MiG-29.

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #34 on:** June 19, 2016, 08:27:50 AM »

Simply an attractive picture:

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #35 on:** June 25, 2018, 08:16:22 AM »

Random idea: Ilmavoimat MiG-29 serving alongside Ilmavoimat F/A-18Cs and in similar scheme as shown below:

ChernayaAkula · « **Reply #36 on:** August 03, 2020, 08:35:29 AM »

Quote from: GTX_Admin on September 29, 2013, 06:11:04 AM

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Ah, the rare Fulcrum prototype trialling an experimental W-wing. Not many photos of that.

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #37 on:** September 27, 2020, 03:48:22 AM »

Old Wombat · « **Reply #38 on:** September 27, 2020, 09:33:11 AM »

Peoples' Republic of Zealandia? $:-\$

I can see the US pumping more cash into Australia.

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #39 on:** September 28, 2020, 01:37:52 AM »

Could tie in with this: http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=203.0

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #40 on:** October 05, 2020, 02:49:06 AM »

Subtle Whiff:

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #41 on:** October 05, 2020, 03:55:19 AM »

Frank3k · « **Reply #42 on:** March 09, 2022, 03:46:13 AM »

With Poland (and eventually other former users) turning their MiG-29s to the US, I wonder if they'll have temporary US markings before being sent to Ukraine? Or eventually Polish camo with Ukrainian markings?

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #43 on:** March 09, 2022, 03:54:42 AM »

Quote from: Frank3k on March 09, 2022, 03:46:13 AM

With Poland (and eventually other former users) turning their MiG-29s to the US, I wonder if they'll have temporary US markings before being sent to Ukraine? Or eventually Polish camo with Ukrainian markings?

It will be interesting to see

Old Wombat · « **Reply #44 on:** March 09, 2022, 05:00:11 PM »

If it ever happens.

Everyone thinks it's a great idea.

Nobody wants to be the nation from whence they were delivered.

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #45 on:** March 10, 2022, 01:44:21 AM »

Maybe deliver them to Afghanistan to be forwarded to Ukraine. I'm sure Russia won't be in too great a rush to go back there any time soon...

Frank3k · « **Reply #46 on:** March 10, 2022, 03:18:08 AM »

Quote from: GTX_Admin on March 10, 2022, 01:44:21 AM

Maybe deliver them to Afghanistan to be forwarded to Ukraine. I'm sure Russia won't be in too great a rush to go back there any time soon...

Or sell them to the Swiss as a payment for something... and the Swiss sell them to Ukraine in exchange for wheat. No need to fly them to Switzerland or Germany, just deliver them to Ukraine.

Or just buy more drones and hunt down the TOS-1/TOS-2 tanks.

apophenia · « **Reply #47 on:** March 10, 2022, 05:57:39 AM »

Quote from: Frank3k on March 10, 2022, 03:18:08 AM

Or sell them to the Swiss as a payment for something... and the Swiss sell them to Ukraine in exchange for wheat. No need to fly them to Switzerland or Germany, just deliver them to Ukraine...

I like it. But there may be a simpler proposition than involving the Swiss ... although it would be a little riskier for Poland.

Poland already provides Moldova with aid of all sorts. And there is no love lost between Moldova and Russia (over the latter's support for breakaway Transnistria - the so-called 'Dniestrian Moldovan Republic'. In the past, the FARM proved largely incapable of operating MiG-29s and most of the FARM fighters were sold off.

So, 'donate' the SP's 28 MiG-29s to Moldova after getting behind-the-scenes guarantees that these fighters will be immediately passed on to Ukraine. The sale could be financed by the US Government (effectively removing ultimate legal responsibility from Warsaw).

Once the transfer was complete, Moldovan personnel could be trained in Poland to prepare for the future transfer of SP Sukhoi Su-22s to the FARM (to the Ukraine deal worth the risk to Chișinău).

Quote from: Frank3k on March 10, 2022, 03:18:08 AM

... Or just buy more drones and hunt down the TOS-1/TOS-2 tanks.

Yep, but as-well-as rather than instead-of. UkAF Fulcrums provide top-cover and interception while additional Bayraktar TB2 drones from Turkey tackle the TOS. US-Turkish relations are awkward right now. Maybe Germany would be better-positioned to act as a guarantor on funding for a new tranche of Ukrainian TB2s?

Anyway, food for thought ... and great thread, guys

apophenia · « **Reply #48 on:** March 11, 2022, 08:15:35 AM »

And now with MiG-29 sideview ...

-- https://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=351.msg194877#msg194877


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