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Offline Dr. YoKai

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Romeo tris harder (IMAM Ro.67)
« on: February 05, 2025, 11:50:15 PM »
 
 Surgery has commenced. I had only gotten a cuts into this project before I set it aside a couple of years ago, but thanks to the motivation of this group build, I have been making steady progress, and the plan is coming together nicely. There is not a whole lot of information on this aircraft, as the company itself seems to have withdrawn the design based on performance estimates. Cost would have like been a factor as well, since a single 67 would have taken the resources to produce at least two and a half MC.202s. Offered as part of a competition for a heavy fighter in 1939, it was withdrawn in 1940, and superseded by the Ro. 58. I first saw this as a beautiful set of painted plan views by the artist
'Flitzer' (Not sure if he's still with us- Flitzer art.com seems to have left the web) and thought "I have to build that...one of these days." And here we go. This was the state I started with-
DSCF1119 by VileDr.Yo, on Flickr
and a bit more cutting and patching on the fuselage lead to this-
DSCF1124 by VileDr.Yo, on Flickr
One of the things that stalled me originally was the prospect of creating the wings from the existing kit parts. The MC. 202 is a much smaller aircraft with a much narrower chord, but I think I have found a solution. Naturally, it is going to involve a lot of epoxy putty and sheet
styrene. :D And dust. so much dust... The taper of the trailing edge appeared to be identical to the trailing edge of  the Folgore wings, so, using my scaled drawings, I cut two sections of very thin sheet, which, once the center section has been filled in to the right depth and smoothed, will
then be carefully laid over, bottom first, then a layer of e-putty to fill the extended trailing edge, trimmed and smoothed, then I'll overlay the top sheet, and (hopefully) I'll have a strong stout wing.
DSCF1122 by VileDr.Yo, on Flickr

I don't think Nicola Romeo, founder of the famous Alfa Romeo company, was the actual designer of the IMAM (Industrie Meccaniche e Aeronautiche Meridionali) Ro. 67 trimotor, but it makes for a good title anyway. ;)







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Re: Romeo tris harder (IMAM Ro.67)
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2025, 05:52:23 AM »
Looks good  :smiley:  I've seen several Italian whifs that would make great models, I'll have to look them up & post.
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Re: Romeo tris harder (IMAM Ro.67)
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2025, 11:14:00 AM »
A three engine heavy fighter is indeed super heavy! Maybe more like a fast bomber. That concept was certainly popular in Europe.
This looks like quite a project and I’m sure it will turn out awesome! Will it be in an Italian paint job or something much more strange?
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Re: Romeo tris harder (IMAM Ro.67)
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2025, 06:26:20 PM »
This so fits with Italian aircraft designs, amongst the great Italian tri motors, like the Sovia Marchetti designs.
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Re: Romeo tris harder (IMAM Ro.67)
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2025, 01:03:19 PM »
This build is already looking completely epic, Doc!

Quote from: Dr. YoKai on February 05, 2025, 11:50:15 PM
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I don't think Nicola Romeo, founder of the famous Alfa Romeo company, was the actual designer ...

It does make a great title  ;D  Thing is, 'Romeo' was also the original trade name for IMAM (although later, the less imaginative 'Meridionali' was more often used).

That said, the IMAM Ro.67 was actually designed by Giovanni Galasso (who had been Romeo's chief designer for years).
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Re: Romeo tris harder (IMAM Ro.67)
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2025, 01:00:54 AM »
Nice job on the wing extension!

Don't forget to consult the Woodman book
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Re: Romeo tris harder (IMAM Ro.67)
« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2025, 06:58:54 AM »
Replies first, then some more pictures.
RAAIF - There are some neglected oddities in Italian aviation. I built a Campini-Caproni as a torpedo bomber some time back, and would like to tackle an SM. 92 someday myself.
Kerick - Probably the spinach and sand seen in the color illustration, unless I get lazy and go with the later dark green/grey.
            I mentioned the projected performance figures above-projected top speed on 3300 HP was 620 kph/385mph, so fast, but not
            that fast... ;)
Buzz - I built the old Airfix SM 79 as a teenager, and picked up another cheap a few years back-I have plans for the
          engines, and the torpedoes.
Apophenia - Thanks very much for the information! I had started to name this thread "Meridionali tris harder" but did a little more
                   digging and got to Romeo. My references on Italian aircraft are pretty scant, and there isn't a lot on the web as far as I can tell.
Frank - Thanks! I downloaded Woodman the first time you mentioned it some years ago. ;) I should revisit it, though.

           Thanks to all for the attention and comments!

A start on the cockpit.
DSCF1125 by VileDr.Yo, on Flickr

Cockpit floor and filling a gap ahead ot the wing with laminated sheet
DSCF1127 by VileDr.Yo, on Flickr

And plenty o' putty for the wings. Coming soon, a mountain of dust ;D
DSCF1128 by VileDr.Yo, on Flickr
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Re: Romeo tris harder (IMAM Ro.67)
« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2025, 02:49:11 AM »
Some heavy duty work going on here . . .  :smiley:


cheers,
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Re: Romeo tris harder (IMAM Ro.67)
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2025, 07:50:18 AM »
 It's moving along-I decided to go ahead and attach the wing to the fuselage. Smoothing out the fuselage and wing contours will be a lot easier with both of them  The upper wing plates are just about ready to apply.
DSCF1129 by VileDr.Yo, on Flickr

and that in the background? Stay tuned. ;)
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Re: Romeo tris harder (IMAM Ro.67)
« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2025, 11:20:16 AM »
This is already looking awesome! (Although required PSR may result in Popeye-like forearms  :o )

Quote from: Dr. YoKai on February 18, 2025, 07:50:18 AM
... and that in the background? Stay tuned...

Oh you tease  ;D
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Re: Romeo tris harder (IMAM Ro.67)
« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2025, 09:08:04 PM »
Quote from: apophenia on February 19, 2025, 11:20:16 AM
This is already looking awesome! (Although required PSR may result in Popeye-like forearms  :o )

Quote from: Dr. YoKai on February 18, 2025, 07:50:18 AM
... and that in the background? Stay tuned...

Oh you tease  ;D

 I am a scoundrel, I don't deny it. ;)
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Re: Romeo tris harder (IMAM Ro.67)
« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2025, 07:44:48 AM »
The weather has finally been improving after a couple of weeks of weather for which our part of rural Virginia was rather unprepared, but I have managed some progress. The wings are plated, the horizontal tail surfaces started (The rudders need a bit of refinement, but I will leave them off until psr is complete. I propped them up against the stabilizers for show. ) and I have started on the nacelles.
DSCF1139 by VileDr.Yo, on Flickr

DSCF1142 by VileDr.Yo, on Flickr

I am going to build it 'in flight' on a stand, which will save a bit of effort, and I will probably replace all three props. Surprisingly, a single blade has broken off both the nacelle props, but the center engine prop is intact despite much more frequent handling.  ??? Fortuantely, I also have three old Hasegawa Zero kits in the stash, picked up because they were (1) Cheap and (2) full of useful spares. The props are also a little closer in appearance to the more 'paddle blade' props of the drawings.
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Re: Romeo tris harder (IMAM Ro.67)
« Reply #12 on: February 26, 2025, 08:16:49 AM »
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Re: Romeo tris harder (IMAM Ro.67)
« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2025, 10:06:09 AM »
Looking good, Doc  :smiley:  What an absolute beast the Ro.67 would have been!
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Re: Romeo tris harder (IMAM Ro.67)
« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2025, 02:27:17 AM »
Wot he sed . . .  :D

cheers,
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Re: Romeo tris harder (IMAM Ro.67)
« Reply #15 on: March 30, 2025, 10:44:24 PM »
Yikes, three weeks since and update?!  :-[ Progress did slow a bit because of distractions and weather, but it is almost to the paint stage, just need to sand down the final patches.
DSCF1160 by VileDr.Yo, on Flickr
DSCF1162 by VileDr.Yo, on Flickr
Underwing radiators were modified from the kit parts-just a little more surgery.
DSCF1159 by VileDr.Yo, on Flickr
The canopy is a perfect fit-I'll take a couple of pictures when I get the cockpit squared up. Debating sanding down the existing frame lines-I have one of those 2000 to 8000 grit sanding pad sets, so I should be able to get it back to clarity-just need to find a bottle of what ever they are calling Future these days to dip it in. Probably won't do too much with the cockpit-even sanded down, the molding will be fairly thick. More later, thanks for looking.

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Re: Romeo tris harder (IMAM Ro.67)
« Reply #16 on: March 31, 2025, 02:48:51 AM »
Romeo is looking amazing, Doc!  :smiley: :smiley:

Future: Apparently it was rebranded as Pledge Multi-Surface Floor Finish or Pledge Tile & Vinyl Floor Finish. And don't those new names just trip off the tongue?
-- https://sites.google.com/site/donsairbrushtips/future-floor-polish
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Re: Romeo tris harder (IMAM Ro.67)
« Reply #17 on: March 31, 2025, 05:36:50 AM »
The blending in of the various components is coming along rather nicely.  Looking like a proper flying machine in the last three WIP images.  :smiley:
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Re: Romeo tris harder (IMAM Ro.67)
« Reply #18 on: March 31, 2025, 06:07:00 AM »
Really nice work on the construction here  :smiley: :smiley:
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Re: Romeo tris harder (IMAM Ro.67)
« Reply #19 on: March 31, 2025, 09:43:03 AM »
The construction is excellent. I love the waaaay back cockpit, too.
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Re: Romeo tris harder (IMAM Ro.67)
« Reply #20 on: March 31, 2025, 10:56:18 AM »
The closer this is getting to completion, the more I'm liking the look of it. Nice work, Doc! 8)
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Re: Romeo tris harder (IMAM Ro.67)
« Reply #21 on: April 01, 2025, 11:52:05 PM »
Looking good  :smiley: :smiley:

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Re: Romeo tris harder (IMAM Ro.67)
« Reply #22 on: April 02, 2025, 02:18:17 AM »
This is looking really good now, can't wait to see it finished . . .

cheers,
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Re: Romeo tris harder (IMAM Ro.67)
« Reply #23 on: April 16, 2025, 11:21:45 PM »
Thanks for the comments and encouragement, colleagues, comrades and friends! The rudders have been tacked on, and I started detailing the cockpit. I'll need to scribe the control surfaces and the gear doors, but should start painting over the weekend.

Frank-The long nose does give it a  certain elegance, but I suspect the test pilot would have had something to say about the views on take-off and landing. ;)
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