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Re: M113 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #300 on: September 24, 2016, 05:31:43 AM »
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Re: M113 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #301 on: September 24, 2016, 06:53:34 AM »
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Re: M113 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #302 on: September 24, 2016, 06:54:30 AM »
Another view of Swiss variant:

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Re: M113 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #303 on: September 26, 2016, 02:29:19 PM »
Question:

I've seen a number of addon-armour kits for the M113 either being introduced into service or being offered for sale.

Which one of them is the most well-protected that you know of to ever be at least prototyped?

Thanks in advance.
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Re: M113 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #304 on: October 05, 2016, 12:45:36 PM »
Another up-armoured M113 FV432 Mk3

EDIT: Corrected.  Was excited because this one has its lower frontal hull covered up with applique armour.
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Re: M113 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #305 on: October 05, 2016, 02:33:18 PM »
Except the driver is on the wrong side.   I'd suggest that was a FV432, not an M113.

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Re: M113 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #306 on: October 05, 2016, 06:30:43 PM »
Except the driver is on the wrong side.   I'd suggest that was a FV432, not an M113.

Yep, it's a Bulldog: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FV430_series#FV430_Mk3_Bulldog
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Re: M113 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #307 on: October 05, 2016, 09:05:48 PM »
Except the driver is on the wrong side.   I'd suggest that was a FV432, not an M113.

Yep, it's a Bulldog: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FV430_series#FV430_Mk3_Bulldog

Dang.  Which means that I have not yet found an M113 upgrade without the lower frontal hull exposed......
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Re: M113 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #308 on: August 19, 2017, 04:47:50 AM »
Something that might need to be built:

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Re: M113 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #309 on: August 19, 2017, 05:29:58 AM »
What about a 25-30mm Bushmaster instead of the GAU unit?
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Re: M113 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #310 on: August 19, 2017, 05:35:08 AM »
What about a 25-30mm Bushmaster instead of the GAU unit?

What?!  And loose the insanity element of a big 30mm gatling?  Never!!! ;)
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Re: M113 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #311 on: August 19, 2017, 05:45:34 AM »
Only in the interest of ammunition conservation for the servicing of targets, have to stretch those defense dollars :P
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Re: M113 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #312 on: August 19, 2017, 05:53:02 AM »
Bah!  Practicality be damned! ;)
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Re: M113 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #313 on: April 05, 2018, 06:20:48 AM »
Different view of M113 with IAI 60mm:

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Re: M113 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #314 on: August 27, 2018, 07:54:40 PM »
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The Talha is the first Pakistan's indigenously developed armored personnel carrier. The Talha uses chassis of the US M113 APC, but is better protected. Similar vehicles are offered by Turkey, however Pakistan went for an indigenous design in attempt to have a cheaper locally-built APC.

   Main armament of the Talha APC is a 12.7-mm machine gun, located on top of the roof. Various bolt-on armor can be added for enhanced protection.

   This APC can carry 11 fully equipped troops. There are two firing ports from either side - a feature that the M113 was lacking. Troops enter and leave via the rear ramp.

   Engine compartment of the Talha APC can accommodate either a Detroit Diesel 6V53T engine, developing 275 hp, or a Ukrainian sourced UTD-20 diesel, developing 330 hp.

   Talha armored personnel carrier is fully amphibious and can cross water obstacles virtually without any preparation.

   The army of Pakistan planned to buy 2 000 of these armored vehicles by 2010, however it is unknown if these vehicles were delivered due to funding problems. To date only Iraq has ordered 44 of these vehicles. Current production status of the Talha APC is unknown.

 

Variants

 

   Saad armored personnel carrier, fitted with more powerful engine. This APC has an extended hull and is better protected. It is armed with 14.5-mm machine gun;

   Mouz anti-tank guided missile carrier, armed with RBS-70 missiles. It has a crew of four;

   Maaz anti-tank guided missile carrier, armed with Baktar Shikan missiles. It has a crew of four;

   Al Hamza infantry fighting vehicle, armed with a 25-mm cannon;

   Satab command post vehicle;

   Muhafiz internal security vehicle;

   Al Hadeed armored recovery vehicle, fitted with a crane and hydraulic winch;

   Al Qaswa armored logistics vehicle. It can be used for carrying fuel, ammunition and supplies.

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Re: M113 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #315 on: September 30, 2018, 02:33:41 PM »
M113 camper-van

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Re: M113 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #316 on: October 22, 2018, 01:40:01 PM »
The M59, the predecessor to the M113, is said to be unreliable due to its power system of two truck engines mounted on each side of the hull and directly connected to the transmission.

Does anyone know if this lack of reliability comes directly from the engines, or other components of the drive train?
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Re: M113 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #317 on: October 22, 2018, 02:24:43 PM »
I saw one of those once, a very long time ago at Ft. Hunter-Ligget in California. Very odd set up with the engines. One on each side of the crew compartment, Up in the sponson. Mechanics must have a real good time servicing the side of the engine facing the armor wall in f the vehicle.
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Re: M113 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #318 on: October 22, 2018, 10:07:04 PM »
In fairness, the LVT-3 had the same sort of setup with Cadillac V-8s and the USMC seemed to prefer it over the LVT-4. That drivetrain came from the M5 Stuart, though, so you know it worked in principle.

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Re: M113 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #319 on: October 23, 2018, 02:31:41 PM »
The M59, the predecessor to the M113, is said to be unreliable due to its power system of two truck engines mounted on each side of the hull and directly connected to the transmission.

An interesting claim.  Hunnicutt doesn't back it.  He notes that the US Army were quite happy with the M59, until its use revealed that it was a tad underpowered.  No problems with the drive train apart from the lack of power it seems.   They abandoned it's development because a better, smaller vehicle had come along in the meantime - the M113, not because there wasn't any problem that couldn't be fixed with a little bit of effort and attention.,.


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Re: M113 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #320 on: October 24, 2018, 03:51:57 AM »
This is a good video of the M59:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOVn61qnBHI

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Re: M113 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #321 on: October 24, 2018, 06:34:30 AM »
I looked up a couple of articles and one mentioned it being unreliable. The others didn’t. Must be one of these fables that get passed around.
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Re: M113 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #322 on: November 03, 2018, 12:24:30 PM »
No problems with the drive train apart from the lack of power it seems.
I looked up a couple of articles and one mentioned it being unreliable. The others didn’t. Must be one of these tables that get passed around.

I see.  Thank you.

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« Last Edit: November 04, 2018, 08:36:01 AM by dy031101 »
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Re: M113 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #323 on: November 04, 2018, 01:27:11 PM »
Hellfire Manned Turret System
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Re: M113 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #324 on: January 14, 2019, 08:14:47 AM »
Now that I get to see how its top side looks like, the M59 really reminds me of the Rhino in Warhammer 40K  ;)

Minus the side hatches.

« Last Edit: January 14, 2019, 08:17:29 AM by dy031101 »
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