Beyond The Sprues
Modelling => Ideas & Inspiration => Aero-space => Topic started by: ysi_maniac on June 09, 2012, 01:24:39 AM
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(http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j340/ysi_maniac/Drawing/F4U_napier.jpg)
(http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j340/ysi_maniac/Drawing/F4U_V3420.jpg)
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Something done earlier this year...click on the picture to see more:
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/Vought-XF4U3.jpg) (http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=1091.0)
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Note, no intelligent thought went into this one:
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/More%20Creations/Corgrif.jpg)
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Float equipped, catapult launched Battleship Fighter version???
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Two seat night fighter version?
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(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s34/hobgrot/CD.png)
I, Cor ! Dare !! anyone to build it in plastic ;)
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Note, no intelligent thought went into this one:
And yet it looks sooo right :)
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Float equipped, catapult launched Battleship Fighter version???
Definitely a believeable one; that wing looks made for floats and 'twould be easy to stress.
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Something in Star-wars scheme as a W-wing???
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found on photobucket by coolpop on the other whif site ...
(http://i1242.photobucket.com/albums/gg537/coolpop6307/photos_1265254314.jpg)
(http://i1242.photobucket.com/albums/gg537/coolpop6307/photos_1265271802h.jpg)
(http://i1242.photobucket.com/albums/gg537/coolpop6307/photos_1265264759.jpg)
(http://i1242.photobucket.com/albums/gg537/coolpop6307/photos_1265243004.jpg)
(http://i1242.photobucket.com/albums/gg537/coolpop6307/photos_1265243606.jpg)
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Turboprop version...maybe for use over Korea?
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/More%20Creations/F4UTP.jpg)
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Turboprop version...maybe for use over Korea?
I made one a couple years ago. But I put it in the Vietnam time frame.
http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc250/esveum/100_3331.jpg[/img]](http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc250/esveum/100_3331.jpg) (http://[IMG)
http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc250/esveum/100_3327.jpg[/img]](http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc250/esveum/100_3327.jpg) (http://[IMG)
Ed
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Fantastic Corsair :o Good for around 500mph and middle east use today. Exactly kind of plane for my kit-bash air force.
Use for combined strikes flying with Slowy Jets.
Imagine flying clean and light for an air show !
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That turboprop Corsair is amazing!!
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Corsair with Rolls Royce Vulture engine
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7127/7864463832_f9f81f4600_b.jpg)
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has anyone ever done a Corsair with the XIV2220 engine of the XP-47H?
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That's a cool idea
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has anyone ever done a Corsair with the XIV2220 engine of the XP-47H?
Yes. I posted some pix of it on the other site ages ago. I'll have to get it out of storage and put some pix up.
It'll have to be a USMC shore-based bird. The view over the nose is terrible!
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a couple of 2-seaters were converted as squadron hacks
(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s34/hobgrot/HN1.jpg)
here's my 2-seater Trainer
(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s34/hobgrot/HN3.jpg)
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:)
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Dash 7 variant in SEA.
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Jet Corsair
(http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j340/ysi_maniac/Drawing/F4U_jet.jpeg) (http://s1080.photobucket.com/user/ysi_maniac/media/Drawing/F4U_jet.jpeg.html)
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the first one looks kinda Russian but, the more forward the cockpit goes, the more British it looks - gull-winged Super-JetProvost anyone ? :)
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Toying with P-80 and F-4U
(http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j340/ysi_maniac/Drawing/F4U_P80.jpeg) (http://s1080.photobucket.com/user/ysi_maniac/media/Drawing/F4U_P80.jpeg.html)
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I am thinking in a Jet Corsair.
Is there any aerodynamical reason for the wings to have that special configuration?
Would it have sense in a tricycle jet version?
Is it a better option for attack missions (remember Stuka)?
Thanks.
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I am thinking in a Jet Corsair.
Is there any aerodynamical reason for the wings to have that special configuration?
Would it have sense in a tricycle jet version?
Is it a better option for attack missions (remember Stuka)?
Thanks.
Well, there's a minor one in that this configuration brings the wings into the fuselage in a minimum drag position, but careful attention to wing root fairings can cover that. Beyond that, it's a matter of how much "change" you want to introduce on the production line to switch from prop to jet or how much of the original structure you're trying to retain. Go too far and you'd really be better off designing a whole new aircraft from scratch, retaining whatever systems you wished from the preceding one.
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Interesting point.
Thanks
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Interesting photo via Tommy Thomason:
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-np8qKiPz2hg/VNPhLVFf2AI/AAAAAAAAHio/35k-qu4RNeM/s1600/F4U%2B4360%2Bvs%2B2800%2Bweb%2Bcrop.jpg)
Pratt & Whitney used two F4U-1s for R-4360 engine testing. The first one was for ground runs only, which began in May 1943. The second first flew on 12 September 1943.This picture was taken to illustrate the difference between the R-4360 configuration (referred to as F4U-1 WM for Wasp Major) and the R-2800 one.
One could model the birdcage cockpit one with the R-4360 to really confuse some people... ;)
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The non standard paint job around the cowling would give some fits too.
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Random Idea: Blue Angels Corsair instead of the Hellcats shown below:
(http://www.model-making.eu/zdjecia/4/7/6/1717_rd.jpg)
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V-354 Trainer proposal drawings etc:
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-RWddW2BAQZE/VFb_f__uRQI/AAAAAAAABW8/-l0ksMf5_Xw/s1600/V-354-Corsair-Two-Place-Trainer-art.jpg)
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tCAJTrvfVeQ/VFb_gS7ZlRI/AAAAAAAABXM/7vCifIPm9h4/s1600/V-354-Corsair-Two-Place-Trainer.jpg)
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-llEDCA-ByIs/VFb_f6_EwaI/AAAAAAAABXI/5ELp9CkBZPM/s1600/V-354-Corsair-Two-Place-Trainer-2.jpg)
Source (http://voughtworks.blogspot.com.au/search?updated-max=2015-01-10T11:57:00-06:00&max-results=7)
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Here's what I did.....
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the actual 2-seat trainer .... I have two better photos somewhere.
(http://www.corsair82.com/corsair/seats/Corsair2seat.jpg)
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If the engine, cowling, and prop fit from a Sea Fury, put it on.
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V-354 Trainer proposal drawings etc:
That's rather nice.
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F4U-1D Corsair SALLY, Marine Service Squadron 11, 1945.
This aircraft was put together from salvaged parts from written off Marine Corsairs in the Pacific. It was used as squadron hack of this maintenance and repair unit. It was also the only Corsair in the Pacific to be finished in lacquered silver for protection against the elements, they stripped off the dark gloss sea blue then sprayed it silver as they did not want it to be mistaken for a normal fighter Corsair. The guns were removed as they were not needed.
(https://scontent.fyyz1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/25351862_2057736314457377_9001255547803062835_o.jpg?oh=7973d40682ed79d6fce5f30cc7e865ca&oe=5AC5A25C)
(https://scontent.fyyz1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/25353893_2057736311124044_8065980026864324142_n.jpg?oh=40f58435f906b04f4052508203ed0c8f&oe=5ABDE3F7)
(https://scontent.fyyz1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/25446085_1080654255405304_2615255481733800075_n.jpg?oh=e4c973462a6a5482c0543b127515bb32&oe=5AB94858)
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Here's what I did.....
Love this!!!! :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:
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Batman's first Batplane.
(https://scontent.fxds1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/26904465_1675692312487199_5805294882456281004_n.jpg?oh=8a160ad93f5157891fd25d07e246581d&oe=5AF08DBE)
F4U with a ASM-N-2 Bat radar-guided glide bomb (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASM-N-2_Bat).
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Batman's first Batplane.
Oh great, his humor is spreading further...
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Batman's first Batplane.
Oh great, his humor is spreading further...
The hard core Batman from days of old when taking out the bad guys with a missile was not frowned upon...
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Reengining Corsair with turbocharged Allison V-1710-111/113 ...
(http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j340/ysi_maniac/Drawing/CorsairAllison.jpeg) (http://s1080.photobucket.com/user/ysi_maniac/media/Drawing/CorsairAllison.jpeg.html)
... and with Klimov VK-1
(http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j340/ysi_maniac/Drawing/JetCorsair.jpg) (http://s1080.photobucket.com/user/ysi_maniac/media/Drawing/JetCorsair.jpg.html)
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(http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j340/ysi_maniac/Drawing/CorsairChrysler.jpeg) (http://s1080.photobucket.com/user/ysi_maniac/media/Drawing/CorsairChrysler.jpeg.html)
What if installing a Chrysler IV-2220 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysler_IV-2220 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysler_IV-2220) in a Corsair?
Do I need to stretch more the nose?
All your comments will be wellcome.
Thanks.
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It would probably perform worse than a standard Coursair due to the heavier weight both of the engine and the associated cooling system.
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According to Wikipedia, power-to-weight ratio:
Chrysler IV-2220 1.02 hp/lb
P&W R-2800 0.89 hp/lb
... and weight is roughly equal
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Don't forget that the IV-2220 will require a liquid cooling system which the R-2800 doesn't require.
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(http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j340/ysi_maniac/Drawing/CorsairChryslerStudy.jpeg) (http://s1080.photobucket.com/user/ysi_maniac/media/Drawing/CorsairChryslerStudy.jpeg.html)
Here you can see F4U, F2G and my design.
According to wikipedia F2G was only 4 cm longer than F4U :o
Anyway in my definitive version, the plane will be 72 cm longer than standard F4U (measured in the base of propeller), so 1 cm more in my 1/72 model. 8)
I have moved radiator a little forward,
:smiley:
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You might want to put the turbosupercharger under the belly like the XF4U-3,
thus moving all induction air to a single inlet and then turn the existing induction
system/oil cooler intakes in the stub-wing leading edges into radiator inlets. The
radiator exit slot would probably have to be in the upper wing skin due to the
crowded nature of the lower part of the stub wings.
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Found on Facebook.
(https://scontent.fxds1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/44455299_1313921975412177_4608549708753797120_n.png?_nc_cat=101&_nc_ht=scontent.fxds1-1.fna&oh=1f706f58dfe20d3ef66f34d889f9c67d&oe=5C86602C)
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Found on Facebook.
(https://scontent.fxds1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/45421933_1569220756510944_221512513089437696_o.jpg?_nc_cat=108&_nc_ht=scontent.fxds1-1.fna&oh=29cc867ad148de3286761b3957f44370&oe=5C474304)
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That two seater looks awesome!
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That two seater looks awesome!
It certainly does ---- :-*
shades of this
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Indeed. For comparison, the real world trainer version can be seen back at Reply #30.
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Two-seat profile looks awesome, but I think vertical stabilizer augmentation might be desirable (from both aaerodynamic and aesthetic viewpoints)
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Two-seat profile looks awesome, but I think vertical stabilizer augmentation might be desirable (from both aaerodynamic and aesthetic viewpoints)
Yes, both increased vertical tail height and the addition of a dorsal fin would seem indicated. Ideally, a blend of the two in aesthetic harmony.
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Found on Facebook.
(https://scontent.fxds1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/46845157_10157016805187386_621479938075131904_o.jpg?_nc_cat=102&_nc_ht=scontent.fxds1-1.fna&oh=51dc1d26914273e2421cca6e00785abc&oe=5C70AC5A)
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Found on Facebook.
I'm normally a tolerant man, but nope, that's just not right.
Not right at all.
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Found on Facebook.
I'm normally a tolerant man, but nope, that's just not right.
Not right at all.
Yeah! should be a Martin turret :P
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Works for me
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^ Seconded! :smiley:
Maybe a design with end-plates for the horizontal tail?
Which would move it further towards the Fairchild Brigand from Crimson Skies.
(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/crimsonskies/images/9/9a/Plane_Brigand.jpg)
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Because it would be more like the Me-410 setup.
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Here's a comparison of the standard F4U R-2800 installation and the R-4360 installation
of the F4U-1 WM testbed.
(https://photos.smugmug.com/BTS-2/i-vp63rZp/0/9c39f2a2/O/F4U-1W_R-28_R-436_COMP_01.jpg)
Note that the length from the firewall to the front of the cowling is pretty much the same,
the installation used a standard cowling with a new section added to the rear.
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Heavy rocket load out:
(http://www.chinalakealumni.org/1951/NP45-039386.jpg)
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Found online:
(https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-6fede351b227e4c9cb1e5c5ff851ae17-pjlq)
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French navy Corsair with SS.11 guided missiles:
(https://wwiiafterwwii.files.wordpress.com/2017/04/f4u7ss-11.jpg)
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Looks good :smiley:
Look even better with Mavericks.
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Looks good :smiley:
Look even better with Mavericks.
Well the AGM-65 is a tad bigger than the SS.11 - like ~300 kg vs 30 kg - but theoretically the F4U could probably have managed a pair. Also theoretically, El Salvador and Honduras both still operated F4Us after the AGM-65 entered service. That said, if either of them could have afforded/been provided AGM-65s I somehow think they would not have used them with F4Us...just saying.
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What if in ~1943 Sweden managed to acquire some F4Us?
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(https://web.archive.org/web/20190908102453im_/http://www.clavework-graphics.co.uk/aircraft/fantasy_2/F127_F4U5_USSR.jpg)
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([url]https://web.archive.org/web/20190908102453im_/http://www.clavework-graphics.co.uk/aircraft/fantasy_2/F127_F4U5_USSR.jpg[/url])
I think the Russians would thought it was a bomber and tried to install a tail gunner.
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That two seat trainer idea opens up the possibility for a target towing version.
Strip out the rear cockpit and put in winch gear.
It would also give you scope for some eye catching high visibility paint schemes.
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That two seat trainer idea opens up the possibility for a target towing version.
You were saying...Towing An Aerial Gunnery Target With A Corsair (http://airportjournals.com/towing-an-aerial-gunnery-target-with-a-corsair/)
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What about a post war late model F4U in RAN FAA Service instead of the Sea Furies? Using one of these schemes:
(https://hobbymania.com.au/cdn/shop/products/X72074_1024x1024@2x.jpg?v=1611982027)
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That two seat trainer idea opens up the possibility for a target towing version.
You were saying...Towing An Aerial Gunnery Target With A Corsair ([url]http://airportjournals.com/towing-an-aerial-gunnery-target-with-a-corsair/[/url])
Wow! You learn something new every day. I had no idea they used Corsairs as target tugs.
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here's the Trainer
(https://external-preview.redd.it/7ocy2KHb3EkpvDthlcBLN50q17GpPSfOvAgZ49SQO28.jpg?auto=webp&s=a580179bd3d69cdfa0b4fb7cc8be932dd1bcf04f)