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Re: swept wing pusher bi-plane
« Reply #50 on: November 21, 2012, 01:40:00 PM »
new and improved muzzle brake! first time using pinvise drill! very happy with it, though holes could bemore uniform. oh and some canards for the front and some mock up vert stabs.
 thinkin a name like dragonfly(but in german).not sure which manufacture would have made this.(not good at backstory or thinkin things all the wat though.)





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Re: swept wing pusher bi-plane
« Reply #51 on: November 22, 2012, 05:11:13 AM »
thinkin a name like dragonfly(but in german).not sure which manufacture would have made this

Looks something like a Lippschish type design ?  possibly more French tho ?

Whatever it is .... it's weird enough to demand that someone (Hobbycraft ?) make a kit of it :)

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Re: swept wing pusher bi-plane
« Reply #52 on: November 22, 2012, 05:53:13 PM »
Looks great.
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Re: swept wing pusher bi-plane
« Reply #53 on: November 23, 2012, 08:40:49 AM »
Y'know, that looks like a biplane version of a MiG-8 in general lines.  That does suggest some possibilities.

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Re: swept wing pusher bi-plane
« Reply #54 on: November 23, 2012, 08:48:00 AM »
I really like the change in direction this project has taken! The new gun is a great fit as well as those way cool twin rudders!

Lippisch definitely! The International Translator says the German word for dragonfly is "Drachefliege" but hopefully you'll get a more authoritative answer from one of our native, German-speaking members.

Looks absolutely killer!

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Re: swept wing pusher bi-plane
« Reply #55 on: November 23, 2012, 12:27:52 PM »
Excellent design!  :) The First Whif World War needs more designs like this!

 
<...> The International Translator says the German word for dragonfly is "Drachefliege" but hopefully you'll get a more authoritative answer from one of our native, German-speaking members. <...>

The German word for dragonfly is "Libelle". Drachenfliege is a very literal translation of the word that I've never heard used for dragonflies. However, a quick Google search reveals that Drachenfliege was actually listed as a name for dragonflies in an encyclopaedia from 1858.  :icon_surprised: Oh well, you live and learn.
Lippisch Libelle has a natural ring to it, I think.  :)
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Re: swept wing pusher bi-plane
« Reply #56 on: November 23, 2012, 12:44:21 PM »
Thank you, Moritz. When I first plugged dragonfly into the translator, it came back with Libelle which seemed oddly French and I thought that couldn't be right.

Then I tried dragon fly as two words and got Drachenfliege which seemed better. Good to have a native German speaker's input!

I've got to agree, the Lippisch Libelle certainly rolls nicely off the tongue.

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Re: swept wing pusher bi-plane
« Reply #57 on: November 25, 2012, 12:47:14 PM »
lippisch libelle mk4 it shall be.     but i did like drachenfliege. it made me think dragon .
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Re: swept wing pusher bi-plane
« Reply #58 on: November 27, 2012, 02:02:03 PM »
just a couple o questions,should i stick on the secondary air to air gun seen in the last pic? if so where?
what do you guys think about a strut between the upper n lowwer wings? to me "in reality" it needs one, but i think it screws up the look of it.it is supposed to be " if ww1 went into 1919 or so" ,so i think they could have stronger wings with no need for bracing.
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Re: swept wing pusher bi-plane
« Reply #59 on: November 27, 2012, 06:27:44 PM »
Re gun:  maybe, though you might find weight would be an issue.  If you do use it, I would put it on the fuselage immediately ahead of the pilot.

Re the strut, you could possibly get rid of it.  The Fokker Dr.1 for instance featured interplane struts in production models but these were not necessary from a structural standpoint, but rather minimized wing flexing.  Early prototypes actually didn't have them:

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Re: swept wing pusher bi-plane
« Reply #60 on: November 28, 2012, 02:36:02 AM »
Do a strut from the tip of the lower wing to the tip of the upper wing on each side; it would be efficient without a lot of rigging.

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Re: swept wing pusher bi-plane
« Reply #61 on: November 28, 2012, 07:56:12 AM »
Looking at the thickness of the wings, I think you can get away without any struts as Mr GTX suggested. I especially like the nod that gives to the Fokker Dr. I.

If you do decide to add struts, Mr Elmayerle's idea should definitely be considered.

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Re: swept wing pusher bi-plane
« Reply #62 on: November 28, 2012, 08:21:11 AM »
cries out for the Pink lozenge cam scheme :icon_fsm:

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Re: swept wing pusher bi-plane
« Reply #63 on: November 29, 2012, 08:42:43 AM »
thanks for the ideas,think i might put the gun on in the center and not go with the wing struts.
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Re: swept wing pusher bi-plane
« Reply #64 on: November 30, 2012, 12:41:22 PM »
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Re: swept wing pusher bi-plane
« Reply #65 on: April 14, 2013, 11:02:20 AM »
long time in postying on this one but the new child changes my build times.( from slow to glacier)
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Re: swept wing pusher bi-plane
« Reply #66 on: April 14, 2013, 11:57:22 AM »
Looks good. :)
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Re: swept wing pusher bi-plane
« Reply #67 on: April 14, 2013, 12:56:31 PM »
Worth the wait! and besides anything is faster than stopped... my current pace.
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Re: swept wing pusher bi-plane
« Reply #68 on: April 14, 2013, 02:05:10 PM »
A unique build  :)
You have those pieces playing together well in that configuration. :)
Is another wanna do kinda build for my airforce.

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Re: swept wing pusher bi-plane
« Reply #69 on: April 14, 2013, 02:48:12 PM »
Very nice! This is one of my favourites biplanes ever seen! :-*

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Re: swept wing pusher bi-plane
« Reply #70 on: April 14, 2013, 11:00:07 PM »
The lozenge totally makes it all come together nicely.

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Re: swept wing pusher bi-plane
« Reply #71 on: April 15, 2013, 11:50:00 PM »
It looks great with the lozenge decals. What scale is this? Having the radial behind the pilot means no more hot oil baths!

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Re: swept wing pusher bi-plane
« Reply #72 on: April 16, 2013, 06:52:33 AM »
thanks guys!! its 1/48.
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Re: swept wing pusher bi-plane
« Reply #73 on: April 16, 2013, 01:29:30 PM »
Very very nice !!!   I'm working on something along the same lines myself,but in 1/72 scale. I'll try to have some photos up soon. I must admit,I wasn't sure if I would like it or not but once I saw it painted it looks grand !!!  Good job !!!
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