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7A7 Boeing AsymmetLiner
« on: February 17, 2012, 01:55:20 PM »
As the coming back of my camera (and wife) is delayed, I cannot post pictures of my 2 models built for here, and... I have ordered one more kit, to keep patience. This one is a Boeing 737-200 Revell 1/200. As I wanted to make a very asymmetric airliner. The first goal was just 2 jets one above the other on the post wing, no engine on starboard wing, but... the model, even 1/200, is so huge (15cm=1/2ft long, 15cm=1/2ft wide) that I plan to make it smaller: biplane on port and no wing on starboard (the top to enjoy landscape!) and truncated shorter fuselage.
The order has been sent this morning (at Cherbourg Maquettes, http://cherbourg-maquettes.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=35_67_80&products_id=6864 ), building start probably next week...
The drawing of the project below has been made thanks to http://www.geocities.ws/aircraftssg/B737.html 3-view:

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Re: 7A7 Boeing AsymmetLiner
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2012, 07:21:38 PM »
Love it, Tophe! Now if you add wings on the other side you'd have a four-engined, biplane jetliner!

Wait, you may have given me an idea...

Thanks for the astonishing asymmetry, mon ami!

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Re: 7A7 Boeing AsymmetLiner
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2012, 09:09:57 PM »
As always, deliciously crazy, my dear Tophe
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Re: 7A7 Boeing AsymmetLiner
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2012, 05:53:17 AM »
to get it to fly straight you'd have to add slightly more off-set to the vertical fin !!! ;D

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Re: 7A7 Boeing AsymmetLiner
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2012, 11:35:24 AM »
Thanks a lot for your acceptance (of my craziness...). Concerning the way to make it flyable, yes, I may adapt the fin position in case it is a separate part in the kit, I will see. For weight balance: don't be afraid: there is a helium tank in the fuselage, to provide balance, this is a mix of airship and airplane, yes this is serious! almost...

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Re: 7A7 Boeing AsymmetLiner
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2012, 12:34:28 PM »
Besides, haven't you guys heard of the new breakthrough in physics? The Meunier Law, which states: any asymmetric airplane that won't fly, will  8)
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Re: 7A7 Boeing AsymmetLiner
« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2012, 12:39:07 PM »
Ho... is it already public? I thought it was secret, till next Nobel Prize ceremony at least... (hehehe), thanks Rafael.

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Re: 7A7 Boeing AsymmetLiner
« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2012, 12:40:16 PM »
See you in Stockholm
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Re: 7A7 Boeing AsymmetLiner
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2012, 01:54:32 PM »
We definitely explore aeronautics here !

Bit of political humor (And I in no way want to start a politics thread !) is that there is a certain political party affiliation in the USA that would have a joybuzz if they found this airliner design. It would be used to certify their theories about the French being the only nation besides Russia that could produce an airplane with ------

  two LEFT WINGS...

  yeah, silly. And the design would be just as valid flipped 180.

   Ok, stupid laugh has been done.

   Actually, am thinking about a One sided flying wing right now... Get out the Horten 229 and a saw....

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Re: 7A7 Boeing AsymmetLiner
« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2012, 11:46:28 PM »
You give me ideas...

two asymmetric flying wings at least have been designed industrially, as far as I know.

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Re: 7A7 Boeing AsymmetLiner
« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2012, 01:59:44 AM »
It's like the love-child from Lockheed and Blohm & Voss.

Love it, Tophe! Your imagination never ceases to astonish me!

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Re: 7A7 Boeing AsymmetLiner
« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2012, 12:14:30 AM »
a certain political party affiliation in the USA that would have a joybuzz if they found this airliner design. It would be used to certify their theories about the French being the only nation besides Russia that could produce an airplane with ------two LEFT WINGS...
I should explain: here in France I am not a leader nor a typical guy: I am classified as crazy probably like I would be in USA or China... France has no responsibility in my mistake-drawings... ;) (I run away from every French forum I went in, being insulted, thanks to accept my fantasy here)...

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Re: 7A7 Boeing AsymmetLiner
« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2012, 07:14:16 PM »
Very good

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Re: 7A7 Boeing AsymmetLiner
« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2012, 08:46:52 PM »
The kit arrived today. I'm gonna start building/destroying immediately this 737... :icon_ninja:

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Re: 7A7 Boeing AsymmetLiner
« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2012, 09:46:56 PM »
Scanned aspect before the surgical operation:

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Re: 7A7 Boeing AsymmetLiner
« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2012, 10:06:38 PM »
With the precise use of a saw, a double cutting of the bone provides shortening (for beauty... and for the tiny room on my shelf).

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Re: 7A7 Boeing AsymmetLiner
« Reply #16 on: March 17, 2012, 10:32:35 PM »
And the shortened little-Boeing (babyLiner) is born...

Lots of things remain to do, though...

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Re: 7A7 Boeing AsymmetLiner
« Reply #17 on: March 17, 2012, 11:13:44 PM »
Ah, mon ami, you have become increasingly bold in your kitbashing: a pleasure to watch!
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Re: 7A7 Boeing AsymmetLiner
« Reply #18 on: March 17, 2012, 11:31:33 PM »
Tophe, this looks really cool.  :)
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Re: 7A7 Boeing AsymmetLiner
« Reply #19 on: March 18, 2012, 12:52:00 AM »
Well, I must admit the destruction has come further since this picture, but without camera, I cannot show you (I cannot scan with the wet putty...). The putty on the new junction made me fill all windows, and including the canopy, as I plan now to make it a 1/50 plane (this tiny canopy/eye appeared too small for me), easy as I paint all glassware black. I have cut also the tailplanes, as I plan to make them biplane on the port side with the same angle on the fin, not one on the fuselage. Putty there will fill the holes too. The second jet has been sanded, in order to be glued on the fuselage side, strengthening asymmetry. This is deep surgery. But with anesthesia, the patient feels no pain, I swear. ;)

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Re: 7A7 Boeing AsymmetLiner
« Reply #20 on: March 18, 2012, 01:06:48 AM »
Awww how cute! This is one of your most delightful projects yet, mon ami!

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Re: 7A7 Boeing AsymmetLiner
« Reply #21 on: March 18, 2012, 02:01:28 AM »
A 737-babyPlane (and T-tail for dear JHM) has already been created by some ones (with Photoshop at least, see below). My project will be different, sorry.

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Re: 7A7 Boeing AsymmetLiner
« Reply #22 on: March 18, 2012, 02:13:42 AM »
I did it myself with the Douglas DC-9 in 2008, with the Canadian Software Corel PhotoPaint6.

Do you know my gallery at http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/Fake_aircraft.htm ?
« Last Edit: March 18, 2012, 02:17:08 AM by Tophe »

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Re: 7A7 Boeing AsymmetLiner
« Reply #23 on: March 18, 2012, 09:24:05 AM »
That bottom one is still toooooo short !! :icon_crap:

BTW in the real world one particular airplane had a trim problem fixed by making the nose-cone asymetrical !!  This was discovered after the fleet "pig" hit a bird & the sheet-metal guy ended up with a spare stiffener after the rebuild -- so he just threw it in the bin & said nothing. :)
           Pilots later wondered what had happened as that "fleet pig" was now the best neutrally-trimmed plane they ever flew ......... told to me by the guy who did the repair ..... he thought he was in real trouble when the maintenance chief asked him about that "asymetric" nose-cone & where had it come from :-\

Maybe you can do something with the nose as well as a veerry off-set fin ?

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Re: 7A7 Boeing AsymmetLiner
« Reply #24 on: March 18, 2012, 10:54:27 AM »
Thanks raafif for this piece of technical knowledge. I'm gonna quote your words for the Dornier P222/9-08 topic of Secret Projects (http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,14663.0.html ) concerning a frankly-asymmetric nose aircraft.

For the kit build, the first putty is dry, now the second will be on (the wing is already biplane as can be guessed at wing-tip)

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Re: 7A7 Boeing AsymmetLiner
« Reply #25 on: March 18, 2012, 01:20:53 PM »
I plan now to make it a 1/50 plane (this tiny canopy/eye appeared too small for me)

Or maybe two-seat 1/72 rather than single-seat 1/50 or 1/48. As feasibility prototype for the scale 1 airliner.
View from front of the project :

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Re: 7A7 Boeing AsymmetLiner
« Reply #26 on: March 18, 2012, 07:52:05 PM »
That front view is excellent, Tophe! If you hang this beauty from the ceiling by a string, Alexander Calder will be beaming from beyond!

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Re: 7A7 Boeing AsymmetLiner
« Reply #27 on: March 18, 2012, 09:37:42 PM »
He-he, how funny! No, I cannot hang this absurdity without Helium in the fuselage:

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Re: 7A7 Boeing AsymmetLiner
« Reply #28 on: March 19, 2012, 12:24:55 AM »
Christophe, you're the most deliciously crazy genius in the world. This plane could easily be an executive transport for overseas passengers. :-* :-* :-*
But an idea comes to mind: what if the centerbody leftover could be optionally clipped to the wings outer edges? That way you could have two planes in one: an exclusive asymmetric transport and a twin-fuselage mass transport for higher seasons
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Re: 7A7 Boeing AsymmetLiner
« Reply #29 on: March 20, 2012, 01:06:01 AM »
Thanks for your psychological assistance: I am not the most crazy in the World: worse can be imagined... ;)

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Re: 7A7 Boeing AsymmetLiner
« Reply #30 on: March 20, 2012, 03:24:20 AM »
Why am i thinking "Jimbo and the Jet set" markings ?!  :)

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Re: 7A7 Boeing AsymmetLiner
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Re: 7A7 Boeing AsymmetLiner
« Reply #32 on: March 20, 2012, 04:00:48 AM »
Anytime !!  lol ;D

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Re: 7A7 Boeing AsymmetLiner
« Reply #33 on: March 20, 2012, 05:15:14 AM »
Seems to me that more of us than ever must have poor ventilation at our model building tables and computer desks.
Asymetrics really mess with my mind.
Shorten and stretch has all kinds of possibilities.  Can do them on bombers like B-36 and B-52 and others.  Stretch carriers, battleships, cruisers, destroyers, etc...     Stretched tanks and half-tracks hmmm...

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Re: 7A7 Boeing AsymmetLiner
« Reply #34 on: March 20, 2012, 06:56:10 AM »
I did a stretch tank years ago for a competition... I entered the smallest diarama hoping the fact the whole thing was on a coffee pot lid that might be quirky enough to win...

Two epic scale Games Workshop rhinos and some bits created this :




Sorry about the quality if anyone wants me to take new pics i will but hey it gives you the idea....  :)

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Re: 7A7 Boeing AsymmetLiner
« Reply #35 on: March 21, 2012, 12:47:19 AM »
The Boeing 7A7, scanned before painting:

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Re: 7A7 Boeing AsymmetLiner
« Reply #36 on: March 21, 2012, 03:29:42 AM »
This baby is a real tour-de-force of your talent and imagination, mon ami!

For some reason I keep thinking of it wearing primary colors for the various parts (blue wings & horizontal stabilizers, yellow fuselage, red engines).

Regardless how you paint it, I know I'll be delighted by the results!

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Re: 7A7 Boeing AsymmetLiner
« Reply #37 on: March 21, 2012, 06:03:54 AM »
Oh, My!!!; it's coming along nicer than I imagined. Way to go, Tophe!!!
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Re: 7A7 Boeing AsymmetLiner
« Reply #38 on: March 21, 2012, 11:13:47 AM »
Thanks a lot.
Brian, I understand this is so absurd that cartoonish colours (JimboJet-like) would be appropriate. But my stock of paint s has disappeared, even the white-spirit to remove paint, I am just using the water-paints and brushes provided by Heller with their Mirage and F-16XL 1/144. In a hurry before my son arrives from abroad and I will stop modelling probably, for several years. So... this will be a grey prototype: New Tech Proto Liner...

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Re: 7A7 Boeing AsymmetLiner
« Reply #39 on: March 22, 2012, 03:46:03 AM »
I know it will give me a big smile, whatever color it's in!

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Re: 7A7 Boeing AsymmetLiner
« Reply #40 on: March 22, 2012, 11:13:21 AM »
Here she is, scanned after painting:

I hope there will be true photographs in about 2 weeks (however the bad news is that the camera is not working anymore, so it may arrive broken...).

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Re: 7A7 Boeing AsymmetLiner
« Reply #41 on: March 22, 2012, 05:20:14 PM »
Love it, Tophe! The asymmetry is awesome! Thank you for starting my day off wonderfully!

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Re: 7A7 Boeing AsymmetLiner
« Reply #42 on: March 22, 2012, 08:42:41 PM »
Love it!!! Has an insect-like face
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Re: 7A7 Boeing AsymmetLiner
« Reply #43 on: March 23, 2012, 12:42:37 AM »
Thanks a lot... :D

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Re: 7A7 Boeing AsymmetLiner
« Reply #44 on: April 13, 2012, 09:49:06 PM »
First shots with the new camera look like satelitte picture:

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Re: 7A7 Boeing AsymmetLiner
« Reply #45 on: April 14, 2012, 01:57:48 AM »
Better views: