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exhibition of collection of seaplane models in red-yellow-blue
« on: September 21, 2013, 10:48:53 PM »

Dear BTS-ers,

here are a few pictures from my collection of seaplane models, which I present in an exhibition which is a "collection of collections", where all sort of things can be seen (beer bottles, giraffe objects, plastic ducks, post stamps, etc). It is shown in containers with windows, in a center park of the city of Grenoble, France.

My collection consists of a few hundreds of seaplane models, painted in either red, yellow or blue (because I like those colors); some of them are fictitious i.e., what-if seaplane versions of planes that weren't.

So it might contribute to the diffusion of the what-if concept ...

Best,

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Re: exhibition of collection of seaplane models in red-yellow-blue
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2013, 04:09:30 AM »
Wow!!!!

Need close ups of each and every one!!!!
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Re: exhibition of collection of seaplane models in red-yellow-blue
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2013, 04:34:01 AM »
Wow!!!!

Need close ups of each and every one!!!!



I have pictures of them each and all actually, but it would be quite a lot!  :-\ :icon_beer: ???

quite a few are visible in this album : http://s1274.beta.photobucket.com/user/ericr63/library/hyd

like this one :


I might post some in threads on this site ; is there an appropriate category?

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Re: exhibition of collection of seaplane models in red-yellow-blue
« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2013, 05:40:30 AM »
Just keep posting them in this thread (which I have moved to the appropriate area).
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Re: exhibition of collection of seaplane models in red-yellow-blue
« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2013, 04:11:00 AM »
Just keep posting them in this thread (which I have moved to the appropriate area).


for example this Do 212 in yellow is in the ofreground of one picyute of the exhibition :




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Re: exhibition of collection of seaplane models in red-yellow-blue
« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2013, 10:54:53 AM »
 :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* Wonderful :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
(I must take my breath again) :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*

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Re: exhibition of collection of seaplane models in red-yellow-blue
« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2013, 03:13:13 AM »
Wow that's one of the coolest collections I've ever seen!

I find the primary colors incredibly delightful!

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Re: exhibition of collection of seaplane models in red-yellow-blue
« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2013, 03:35:57 AM »
Wow that's one of the coolest collections I've ever seen!

I find the primary colors incredibly delightful!

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Totally agree.   Brian musta telepathied and read my mind.
Cool bunch of builds  8)

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Re: exhibition of collection of seaplane models in red-yellow-blue
« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2013, 10:33:01 AM »
Cool bunch of builds  8)

Indeed! Bring 'em (all) on  :)
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Re: exhibition of collection of seaplane models in red-yellow-blue
« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2013, 11:09:07 AM »
On that picture :
I guess I see dozens of asymmetric aircraft! Probably this is a misreading but that is teasing... Show us more and more, please. We are the ones to appreciate them deeply, more than visitors of the park maybe (that do not know modelling at all or think this must show Real things...) ;)

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Re: exhibition of collection of seaplane models in red-yellow-blue
« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2013, 04:24:47 PM »
:-* :-* :-* :-* :-* Wonderful :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
(I must take my breath again) :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*

thanks a lot ! you're too kind  ;)

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Re: exhibition of collection of seaplane models in red-yellow-blue
« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2013, 04:26:26 PM »
I find the primary colors incredibly delightful!

I am really glad you like these colors, because they're cool indeed ; and I find they bring out the shape of planes independently of their origins in geography or history, or military use.


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Re: exhibition of collection of seaplane models in red-yellow-blue
« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2013, 04:32:00 PM »
Cool bunch of builds  8)


Indeed! Bring 'em (all) on  :)


as I said, all would be quite a lot, but I will post some here from my photobucket library, which has more ;
like this Rutan voyager, "improved" with floats :


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Re: exhibition of collection of seaplane models in red-yellow-blue
« Reply #13 on: September 27, 2013, 04:38:24 PM »
On that picture :
I guess I see dozens of asymmetric aircraft! Probably this is a misreading but that is teasing... Show us more and more, please. We are the ones to appreciate them deeply, more than visitors of the park maybe (that do not know modelling at all or think this must show Real things...) ;)


well, maybe you have a personal perspective making you see asymmetric ones here, I don't think I have many, even if I have a few. There are some zwillinged aircraft though :


or, less expected :



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Re: exhibition of collection of seaplane models in red-yellow-blue
« Reply #14 on: September 27, 2013, 05:11:57 PM »
These get better-n-better with each viewing  :-* :-* :-*
Oh,,, I wanna build some of those.

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Re: exhibition of collection of seaplane models in red-yellow-blue
« Reply #15 on: September 27, 2013, 08:15:41 PM »
Oh,,, I wanna build some of those.

please do!  ;)
if some of these ideas can inspire people to do better, with more skills than I have, or other coloring schemes, then I am perfectly happy with that of course.

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Re: exhibition of collection of seaplane models in red-yellow-blue
« Reply #16 on: September 27, 2013, 11:33:21 PM »
quite a few are visible in this album : http://s1274.beta.photobucket.com/user/ericr63/library/hyd
Thanks a lot for these great new additions to your photobucket collection, already incredible!

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Re: exhibition of collection of seaplane models in red-yellow-blue
« Reply #17 on: September 28, 2013, 01:58:17 AM »
 I am reminded of the collections of World War II-era 'Identification Models' I've seen. A most interesting
 installation piece!

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Re: exhibition of collection of seaplane models in red-yellow-blue
« Reply #18 on: September 28, 2013, 09:24:44 AM »
I am glad I have been able to enrich the Mustang models family thanks to you ericr!
(on my site http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/Suite_Mustangs_V.htm )

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Re: exhibition of collection of seaplane models in red-yellow-blue
« Reply #19 on: September 28, 2013, 10:02:47 AM »
I have included also your great P-38-on-floats variations, with different mountings, on my page http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/twin_boom_whatif_1939_45B.htm

Thanks again, artist!

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Re: exhibition of collection of seaplane models in red-yellow-blue
« Reply #20 on: September 28, 2013, 02:02:00 PM »
very cool.  Really like the P-38s

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Re: exhibition of collection of seaplane models in red-yellow-blue
« Reply #21 on: September 28, 2013, 05:21:18 PM »
Me too, and that gave me ideas to complet the set, with single-float ones:

thanks Ericr!

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Re: exhibition of collection of seaplane models in red-yellow-blue
« Reply #22 on: September 29, 2013, 01:48:52 AM »
Single-float Lightnings!  :-*

Hmmm, should be possible to have the outrigger floats fold into the vacated former main landing gear bays.
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Re: exhibition of collection of seaplane models in red-yellow-blue
« Reply #23 on: September 29, 2013, 04:21:39 AM »
I like the Rutan Voyager FP and also the He-111ZW
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Re: exhibition of collection of seaplane models in red-yellow-blue
« Reply #24 on: September 29, 2013, 07:35:34 PM »
Me too, and that gave me ideas to complet the set, with single-float ones:
thanks Ericr!


You're welcome! thanks for the bright colors!
I haven't tried a single central float P-38 yet ... maybe one day?
and the assymmetry is astonishing, as always.

another two-floats I did is this one  ;)



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« Reply #25 on: September 29, 2013, 07:37:02 PM »
I like the Rutan Voyager FP and also the He-111ZW

Rutan is designing quite crazy planes, some of them avaliable in 1/72 ...
Giving them floats "improves" them a bit  ;)

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Re: exhibition of collection of seaplane models in red-yellow-blue
« Reply #26 on: September 30, 2013, 04:42:46 AM »
Me too, and that gave me ideas to complet the set, with single-float ones:
thanks Ericr!


You're welcome! thanks for the bright colors!
I haven't tried a single central float P-38 yet ... maybe one day?
and the assymmetry is astonishing, as always.

another two-floats I did is this one  ;)




That just might be one of the cutest P-38s yet!

I'm probably not the only one going "Awwwww..."

Very nice work indeed!

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Re: exhibition of collection of seaplane models in red-yellow-blue
« Reply #27 on: September 30, 2013, 08:19:16 AM »
Yes delicious little egg-seaplane :-* :-*

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Re: exhibition of collection of seaplane models in red-yellow-blue
« Reply #28 on: September 30, 2013, 09:56:00 AM »
Tonight, with the precious help of Ericr yesterday, I have been able to give my Sea-Lightnings a more realistic look! (for the float shape, I mean...) ;)

I hope the public presentation of Ericr's models has been a tremendous public success in Grenoble and that a Qatari princess fell in love with his collection, for him to become the very first what-if billionnaire!

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« Reply #29 on: September 30, 2013, 02:48:59 PM »
Tonight, with the precious help of Ericr yesterday, I have been able to give my Sea-Lightnings a more realistic look! (for the float shape, I mean...) ;)


I hope the public presentation of Ericr's models has been a tremendous public success in Grenoble and that a Qatari princess fell in love with his collection, for him to become the very first what-if billionnaire!

Beautiful!

the exhibition goes on, and the organizers tell me the children are difficult to refrain from touching ;-)

but the collections shown in this collective exhibition are not for sale actually, and I received no spontaneous offer (until now ;-) )

 

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Re: exhibition of collection of seaplane models in red-yellow-blue
« Reply #30 on: October 01, 2013, 11:47:31 AM »
Not for sale? If one receives a zillion $ offer, almost everything may be sold ;) (at retirement with infinite budget to buy kits and tools, you could build your collection again)
 
Ericr, in your huge collection, have you float-booms on one? as on the Levasseur PL-200 (http://germo43.skyrock.com/3130509138-LEVASSEUR-PL-200-PL-201.html )
Or at least float-fins on one? as on the Nikitin PSN-2 (http://weaponsandwarfare.com/?p=4945 )
They may be the next ideas? No? :)
EDIT: the ER-38 Lightning-float family is growing and growing ar the end of my site http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/#Sit , thanks again!
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« Reply #31 on: October 01, 2013, 03:03:52 PM »
Not for sale? If one receives a zillion $ offer, almost everything may be sold ;) (at retirement with infinite budget to buy kits and tools, you could build your collection again)


I will wait for such an offer to arrive ...  ;)


 
Ericr, in your huge collection, have you float-booms on one? as on the Levasseur PL-200 (http://germo43.skyrock.com/3130509138-LEVASSEUR-PL-200-PL-201.html )


ah indeed, it does look quite extraordinay!
mmmmmhh ... I have to think ...
(I have two spare fuselages from Cams 37 kits by Azur ... I had an idea for them, but I might change? ... )

Or at least float-fins on one? as on the Nikitin PSN-2 (http://weaponsandwarfare.com/?p=4945 )
They may be the next ideas? No? :)


done !  ;D



I found the kit in resin somewhere ...
also the other one can be found :



EDIT: the ER-38 Lightning-float family is growing and growing ar the end of my site http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/#Sit , thanks again!
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Re: exhibition of collection of seaplane models in red-yellow-blue
« Reply #32 on: October 02, 2013, 12:37:36 AM »
Renewed congratulations! What a collection!

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Re: exhibition of collection of seaplane models in red-yellow-blue
« Reply #33 on: October 03, 2013, 12:06:39 AM »
Ericr, are you the one that built this red Float-Vampire?

If your heart balance between Seattle and Grenoble, this could be possible...

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« Reply #34 on: October 03, 2013, 04:01:38 AM »
Ericr, are you the one that built this red Float-Vampire?
...
If your heart balance between Seattle and Grenoble, this could be possible...

no, it's not me (I wouldn't hqve put decals  ;) )


but I am jealous!    :-\

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Re: exhibition of collection of seaplane models in red-yellow-blue
« Reply #35 on: October 03, 2013, 11:15:32 AM »
Sorry for having made you jealous, I was meaning (if that were not you in Seattle): you are not alone in the World... but maybe you are the leader of a special category of creative modelers. Be happy! (and you enjoy us here, maybe a million times more than usual visitors of Grenoble - you know, in the 1990s I thought I was the only unrealistic modeler in the World, then with Internet I thought I was one among several, simply the only French one, then I discovered we are plenty, simply judjed-bad by dictatorship of Realism... Yes, be happy here, and sorry again for having made you feel bad, if you were not kidding...).

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« Reply #36 on: October 03, 2013, 03:07:49 PM »


I was kidding of course : I like the idea so much I would have liked to have it myself  :)

It is indeed a pleasure to find forums like this one where people use inventivity and creativity!


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Re: exhibition of collection of seaplane models in red-yellow-blue
« Reply #37 on: October 06, 2013, 09:15:09 PM »

The collection of collections moved from the central city park to the university campus : so I changed a bit the presentation, as well as the selection of shown planes: one wall of each color, simply.









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Re: exhibition of collection of seaplane models in red-yellow-blue
« Reply #38 on: October 06, 2013, 09:42:42 PM »
Intesresting new pictures. Are some of them landplanes? or amphibious? (the yellow one in front)

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« Reply #39 on: October 07, 2013, 01:08:33 AM »
Intesresting new pictures. Are some of them landplanes? or amphibious? (the yellow one in front)

yes indeed, some of them are amphibious flying boats like the yellow Canadair, and the Walrus close by, but all of them are seaplanes !

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Re: exhibition of collection of seaplane models in red-yellow-blue
« Reply #40 on: October 07, 2013, 11:25:17 AM »
The collection of collections moved from the central city park to the university campus : so
Saint-Martin d'Hères campus of Grenoble? That is interesting, while... the best would have been the Rangueuil campus of Toulouse with many students in aeronautics... I wish you a tremendous success anyway. ;)

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Re: exhibition of collection of seaplane models in red-yellow-blue
« Reply #41 on: October 14, 2013, 08:00:01 PM »

oops,  it seems it has been a bit too hot for one of them

(floatplanized Airacobra, in blue)



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Re: exhibition of collection of seaplane models in red-yellow-blue
« Reply #42 on: October 14, 2013, 10:24:28 PM »
Great! May I include it in my collection of asymmetric aircraft? with a new reason for asymmetry: broken down toy ;D ;)

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« Reply #43 on: October 14, 2013, 11:00:21 PM »
please do  ;)
the category could be "melted down" rather than broken  :)

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Re: exhibition of collection of seaplane models in red-yellow-blue
« Reply #44 on: October 14, 2013, 11:45:11 PM »
I have tried to follow your words. Is my text correct? (at the end of the site http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/Asymm_addition.htm ) Thanks again!

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« Reply #45 on: October 15, 2013, 12:11:55 AM »
yes, it's ok  ;)

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Re: exhibition of collection of seaplane models in red-yellow-blue
« Reply #46 on: October 15, 2013, 04:49:26 AM »

oops,  it seems it has been a bit too hot for one of them

(floatplanized Airacobra, in blue)




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Re: exhibition of collection of seaplane models in red-yellow-blue
« Reply #47 on: October 22, 2013, 12:26:47 PM »
Dear Ericr,
When I directed you to Facebook's "Stargazer's Imaginary Aircraft" (showing a tandem-wing floatplane), you told me you had built a blue Lysander-Delanne seaplane. Is it this one? (or is this a sesquiplane seen from behind?)

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« Reply #48 on: October 23, 2013, 03:39:15 PM »
Dear Ericr,
When I directed you to Facebook's "Stargazer's Imaginary Aircraft" (showing a tandem-wing floatplane), you told me you had built a blue Lysander-Delanne seaplane. Is it this one? (or is this a sesquiplane seen from behind?)



Hi Tophe,

this one must be a Macchi M.5 flying boat (1/48, in blue), sesquiplane indeed.

I just started a topic with the Delanne floatplane in orange, and Lysander (without floats) there :
http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=3698.0


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Re: exhibition of collection of seaplane models in red-yellow-blue
« Reply #49 on: January 21, 2014, 12:59:24 PM »
Dear Ericr,
as a seaplane expert, have you considered building a seaplane with modern foils instead of antique floats? How could that work?

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« Reply #50 on: January 21, 2014, 02:51:56 PM »
Dear Ericr,
as a seaplane expert, have you considered building a seaplane with modern foils instead of antique floats? How could that work?


Hi Tophe,

what a good idea! there have been a few examples apparently like this :

here
http://www.seaplanes.org/mambo/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=221&Itemid=1

then there is floatation, which can be achieved with the fuselage and wings I guess, like in the Piaggio PC7 ...

many perspectives indeed for whiffing wild!


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Re: exhibition of collection of seaplane models in red-yellow-blue
« Reply #51 on: January 21, 2014, 05:44:16 PM »
Dear Ericr,
as a seaplane expert, have you considered building a seaplane with modern foils instead of antique floats? How could that work?



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Re: exhibition of collection of seaplane models in red-yellow-blue
« Reply #52 on: January 22, 2014, 12:23:11 AM »
Modern? Like the pre-WWI Bristol-Burney hydrofoils?  ;D



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Re: exhibition of collection of seaplane models in red-yellow-blue
« Reply #53 on: January 22, 2014, 01:01:54 AM »
Thanks to all, including the historical correction! :D

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Re: exhibition of collection of seaplane models in red-yellow-blue
« Reply #54 on: January 22, 2014, 02:50:21 AM »
there is floatation, which can be achieved with the fuselage and wings I guess

It seems you are right: there must be floatation before the seaplane increases speed and stand on its hydrofoils: