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Title: Coops213's profiles
Post by: coops213 on December 12, 2011, 04:07:43 AM
Hi all! This is where I'll be posting my new profiles. You can check out my older ones in my photobucket account (http://s15.photobucket.com/albums/a390/cncooper/what%20if/).

I'm still going with my Sea Harrier. Here are a few more I put together lately.

RAAF desert camo:
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a390/cncooper/what-if/SeaHarrierRAAF2.jpg)

USAF Vietnam war:
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a390/cncooper/what-if/SeaHarrierUSAF.jpg)

Oh, and a big thanks to Greg for setting up this new forum for us to play in!

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: JP Vieira on December 12, 2011, 05:04:16 AM
Great to see you here!
Those are some amazing profiles: congrats
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: Litvyak on December 12, 2011, 07:34:40 AM
Agreed, those are gorgeous. I can't for the life of me seem to get the shading to look decent, whereas you've made it splendid...
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: sotoolslinger on December 12, 2011, 07:47:13 AM
Great to see you here Coops. MOAR!
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: Empty Handed on December 12, 2011, 07:49:03 AM
I concur with my esteemed peers. Gorgeous SHARs!
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: Doom! on December 12, 2011, 08:51:59 AM
Chris, you never fail to please.
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: coops213 on December 12, 2011, 10:39:02 AM
Thanks everyone. Good to see a crown of familiar faces growing on this forum.

Agreed, those are gorgeous. I can't for the life of me seem to get the shading to look decent, whereas you've made it splendid...

Didn't happen overnight Litvyak, go back and look at some of my earlier stuff. Every time I draw in a new profile type I try to incorporate a new technique or two. It helps to start small and work your way up.

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: BadersBusCompany on December 12, 2011, 10:51:34 AM
Outstanding SHARs!!
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: Gekko1 on December 12, 2011, 03:08:34 PM
WOW! That Aussie SHAR is absolutely totally AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(Richard runs off to have a look at his unbuilt Hasegawa kit...................)

Cheers

Richard.
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: Brian da Basher on December 13, 2011, 03:32:25 AM
Top-flight work, Coops! Harriers always get noticed!

Brian da Basher
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: Jeremak on December 13, 2011, 06:08:10 AM
Good to see you here Coops. Can I give you a few ideas, can I, can I??? I have 3 for Sea Harriers: first one is "Gulf War style" desert pink, next: RAF WW2 desert scheme for Cyprus based plane during what-if 2012 no-fly zone over Syria, and last: one of italian retro camouflage, with of course italian markings.
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: coops213 on December 13, 2011, 02:58:37 PM
Good to see you here Coops. Can I give you a few ideas, can I, can I??? I have 3 for Sea Harriers: first one is "Gulf War style" desert pink, next: RAF WW2 desert scheme for Cyprus based plane during what-if 2012 no-fly zone over Syria, and last: one of italian retro camouflage, with of course italian markings.

Sounds good, just when I thought I was out of ideas! Do you have an example of the retro Italian camouflage you mean?
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: Jeremak on December 14, 2011, 12:39:12 AM
http://www.rollmodels.net/nreviews/airplanes/48HasegawaMacchiMC.202/48HasegawaMacchiMC.202.php
And for naval camo, maybe scheme seen on ships? http://www.bismarck-class.dk/miscellaneous/book_reviews/classic_warships/classic_warships_wp_23_italian_h_cruisers_book_review.html "Trieste" ilustration, of course with ID bands.
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on December 14, 2011, 02:38:02 AM
Here's a couple Chris also did as alternate Chimera variants:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/GreenChimera.png)
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/GreyChimera.png)

 :D

Regards,

Greg
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: coops213 on December 17, 2011, 08:46:43 PM
Thanks all! Here are a couple of Jeremak's requests.

Gulf war Harrier:
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a390/cncooper/what-if/SeaHarrierRNGulf.jpg)

Retro RAF Harrier:
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a390/cncooper/what-if/SeaHarrierRAFretro.jpg)

Chris
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: Jeremak on December 17, 2011, 09:15:04 PM
<I need aplause emoticon> Incredible: I just knowed, that they will look great. Aren't they?
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: Maverick on December 17, 2011, 09:18:41 PM
Very tasty stuff.

Regards,

John
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: BadersBusCompany on December 17, 2011, 09:54:16 PM
Agreed, especially the F.5
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: Gekko1 on December 18, 2011, 02:13:11 AM
VERY nice!

Richard.
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: JP Vieira on December 18, 2011, 02:17:54 AM
Excellent work as usually  :)
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: ChernayaAkula on December 18, 2011, 04:17:28 PM
It's just amazing how well that shark mouth fits the SHAR! (http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m309/ChernayaAkula/Emoticons/woo.gif)
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on December 18, 2011, 04:19:11 PM
I wonder how a PLAN SHAR would look like?

Hint, hint...
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: Litvyak on December 18, 2011, 06:37:36 PM
Or RCN? ;)

(BTW, thanks for mentioning Akrotiri, now I've got the Lincolnshire Poacher stuck in my head... )
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: coops213 on December 19, 2011, 07:22:42 PM
Glad you liked them! Now for something french...

(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a390/cncooper/what-if/SeaHarrierAeronavale.jpg)

Chris
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: Gekko1 on December 20, 2011, 12:08:57 AM
Excellent!

Now, how about something African? :serious-business:

Cheers

Richard.
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: coops213 on December 20, 2011, 01:44:01 PM
Excellent!

Now, how about something African? :serious-business:

Cheers

Richard.

Hmm, may be time to graft a ground attack nose onto this one. I'm having visions of a sorry looking, worse for wear, Zimbabwean GR.3...
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: Gekko1 on December 21, 2011, 02:51:30 AM
Excellent!

Now, how about something African? :serious-business:

Cheers

Richard.

Hmm, may be time to graft a ground attack nose onto this one. I'm having visions of a sorry looking, worse for wear, Zimbabwean GR.3...

 :omg-: YES!
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: Bladerunner on December 21, 2011, 07:46:25 PM
Hey Chris,

Awesome Harrier collection. Really like the French Aeronavale one.
A Zim Harrier should look great as well.

Cheers
John
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: coops213 on December 21, 2011, 08:38:33 PM
Officially on Christmas holidays now, so more time to spend on fun stuff! I've started work on creating a GR.3 profile out of my Sea Harrier. For now here's another grey one:
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a390/cncooper/what-if/SeaHarrierRNZN.jpg)

Chris
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: Maverick on December 21, 2011, 09:00:56 PM
Certainly looks the part Chris.

Regards,

John
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: Gekko1 on December 22, 2011, 02:59:54 AM
Um, WOW! :in-love:
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: coops213 on December 22, 2011, 06:32:00 PM
Thanks guys! Spent today finishing off my GR.3 profile. It's amazing how just tucking the cockpit down a little and altering the nose changes the whole look of the aircraft. I couldn't be arsed changing the inner pylons to the earlier style (but how many of you would have noticed if I hadn't mentioned it  ;)).

Anyway, here's my first Harrier GR.3 profile, RNZAF 75 Squadron:
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a390/cncooper/what-if/HarrierGR3RNZAF.jpg)

Chris
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: tsrjoe on December 22, 2011, 08:27:39 PM
very nice, i can just imagine these in service alongside the Skyhawks, cool profile, this just screams 'make me' (the Esci/Italeri GR.3 is a really nice build!)

 :D
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: Bladerunner on December 22, 2011, 08:44:56 PM
Great stuff. Put some Zim markings on one... please? ;)
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: Maverick on December 22, 2011, 08:58:47 PM
Quite nice Chris.  My Un Zud Harrier was a GR.1 back in 08, but I skipped the 3 and did a 7 in their later lizard scheme.  That and the overall Green would be good choices for more of them for you.

Regards,

John
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on December 23, 2011, 04:00:30 AM
Oh great another Harrier kit I need to get...
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: Empty Handed on December 23, 2011, 04:22:42 AM
That RNZN one is gorgeous!   :in-love:
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: Jeffry Fontaine on December 23, 2011, 09:54:15 AM
Nice work on all of those Harriers.  No, I would not have noticed the subtle change in the inboard stores pylon unless you mentioned it.  Too busy looking at the other details to catch that or even be wise enough to notice. 
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: coops213 on January 03, 2012, 09:54:34 PM
Thanks for all the kind words. Finally got a bit of quiet time to sit down and knock out a few more GR3 profiles. First up a SAAF Harrier in Mirage F1 camo:
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a390/cncooper/what-if/HarrierGR3SAAF.jpg)

And, as promised, a beaten up Zimbabwean Harrier:
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a390/cncooper/what-if/HarrierGR3Zim.jpg)

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: jorel62 on January 03, 2012, 10:20:10 PM
Very cool....
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: Logan Hartke on January 03, 2012, 11:24:56 PM
That SAAF camo always makes anything look good.

Cheers,

Logan
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: Gekko1 on January 04, 2012, 01:50:45 AM
How about some Asian Harriers. Japanese perhaps?

Cheers

Richard.
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: taiidantomcat on January 04, 2012, 02:42:52 AM
Very great Harriers! Wow!
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on January 04, 2012, 03:08:41 AM
Nice ones Chris!

How about some Asian Harriers. Japanese perhaps?


Or perhaps Malaysian or Taiwanese?
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: Bladerunner on January 04, 2012, 03:10:26 AM
Brilliant!!!
 :in-love: :want: :in-love:
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: coops213 on January 06, 2012, 10:56:49 AM
Thanks for the suggestions, I'll see what I can do. For now here's a RNZAF Harrier in lizard scheme:
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a390/cncooper/what-if/HarrierGR3RNZAF2.jpg)

And a South Vietnamese Harrier captured and put into service by the VPAF:
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a390/cncooper/what-if/HarrierGR3VPAF.jpg)

Chris
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on January 06, 2012, 02:05:43 PM
 :omg-:   argghhh!!!! More kits to buy!!!! :pissedoff:
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on January 06, 2012, 04:48:40 PM
WOW! :in-love:
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: Stargazer2006 on January 06, 2012, 04:54:41 PM
Some brilliant stuff here. The SAAF, RAAF and Zimbabwe are personal favorites... But why would a Zimbabwe Harrier be based in neighboring Congo??
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on January 06, 2012, 06:10:11 PM
But why would a Zimbabwe Harrier be based in neighboring Congo??

The war of course...
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: coops213 on January 08, 2012, 12:42:09 PM
A couple more, Israeli Air Force:
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a390/cncooper/what-if/HarrierGR3IDF.jpg)

Angolan Air Force:
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a390/cncooper/what-if/HarrierGR3Angola.jpg)

Chris
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on January 08, 2012, 01:38:24 PM
Wicked!
 :D
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: Maverick on January 08, 2012, 01:41:13 PM
Nice schemes Chris.

Two minor concerns regarding the Israeli machine:

Was the GR.3 operational in 1973?  I think it was the late 70s when it came onboard.

The colour scheme looks like the later, lighter 3 tone used by the Israelis for their F-16s rather than the darker used on their earlier aircraft like the F-4.  Once again, whether they were using that scheme in the early 70s is debatable.

All said though, nicely done.  Particularly like the weathering on the Angolan machine.

Rgards,

John
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: coops213 on January 08, 2012, 02:09:40 PM
Nice schemes Chris.

Two minor concerns regarding the Israeli machine:

Was the GR.3 operational in 1973?  I think it was the late 70s when it came onboard.

The colour scheme looks like the later, lighter 3 tone used by the Israelis for their F-16s rather than the darker used on their earlier aircraft like the F-4.  Once again, whether they were using that scheme in the early 70s is debatable.

All said though, nicely done.  Particularly like the weathering on the Angolan machine.

Rgards,

John

Yeah, probably sneaking the GR3 into service a little early. The earliest pictures I can find are 1977.

Regarding the scheme, I was pretty sure the colours changed at some point. However the only references I could find (Don Colour, IPMS Stockholm, Hasegawa instructions) all call out the same colours. These were Brown FS30219, Tan FS3531 and Green FS34227 fo all different types (F-4s, A-4s and Mirages). I then grabbed the RGB values for these colours from Simmers. Do you know what colours were used in the earlier scheme? I'd like to revise the profile, I think it'd look better with the darker colours.

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: Logan Hartke on January 08, 2012, 02:19:50 PM
Just look at the closest to real-color photos you can find and RGB or eyeball it.  Places like Simmers and that are wrong as often as they are right.  I use them as a basis, but rarely trust them completely.

Thanks,

Logan
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on January 08, 2012, 03:23:07 PM
Maybe the GR.3 was introduced as a result of Israeli requests - similar to the Mirage 5.
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: Maverick on January 08, 2012, 04:17:19 PM
Chris, from my references:

Early 3 tone: FS30219, FS33531, 34227 over 35622

Late 3 tone: FS30219, FS33531, 34424 over 36375

Source: Israeli Air Force - 1967-2001 (SAM Colours & Markings Vol 4)

HTH,

John
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: Gekko1 on January 09, 2012, 12:54:09 AM
Very nice Harriers!

Cheers

Richard.
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: apophenia on January 10, 2012, 06:48:33 AM
All lovely but that RAAF Sea Harrier is truly gorgeous!
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: Wulf on January 10, 2012, 07:32:54 AM
too many great ideas there  ;D

beutiful work  8)
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: ChernayaAkula on January 10, 2012, 08:48:50 AM
Luvverly stuff!  :-*

I've thought about building a Spanish AV-8A and painting it in Ejército del Aire (instead of Armada) colours. Colour scheme like their "ground attack" Mirage F.1s (CLICK! (http://www.colorserver.net/showcolor.asp?fs=30140+20400+34079+36622)), but in a rather faded version (where the sand looks kinda yellow-ish), as often seen on their F.1s.

West German Harriers wouldn't look too bad either, not just for the Marine. Say, the VAK 191 B was cancelled, but there was still a requirement for a VSTOL fighter-bomber.

The Swedes were also keen on being able to disperse their fighters throughout the country. (http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m309/ChernayaAkula/Emoticons/whistle.gif)
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: dy031101 on January 10, 2012, 10:16:36 AM
All this got me thinking of this idea of Thai AV-8S, if you are interested in doing a GR.1/AV-8A/AV-8C variation...... kind of not what-if (because after all Thai did operate the Harriers in real-life) but kind of is what-if (because the fleet was never that operational in Thai service).

Basically, what would have been the best air defense loadout (not limited to what the Thai actually bought in real-life) that a radarless AV-1S could carry?   Since the carrier aircraft would lack a fire control radar, it'd rule out everything that requires mid-course or terminal targetting-update/guidance, leaving just WVRAAMs.  ASRAAM is designed for a relatively-longer effective range and faster approach speed, but Wikipedia entry suggests that IRIS-T (which Thai did purchase in real-life as part of their Gripen deal) can shoot even further (~25km, compared to ASRAAM's 18km?).

Then came the question as to whether any or all of the advanced WVRAAM would need to be slaved to a fire control radar to exploit their maximum effective ranges...... without a fire control radar, would all of them (ASRAAM, IRIS-T, AIM-9X, and Python-5) be more or less on an equal footing?
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: elmayerle on January 10, 2012, 10:33:21 AM
Just a couple thoughts, a Harrier GR.3A with the Av-8C's LIDS added to the GR.3 and a Sea Harrier FRS.1A with similar modification.  I could see the first in RAuxAF markings and possibly the second in markings of a similar FAA squadron.

DY031101, how about the Thai's getting a bunch of Harrier GR.3 nose sections and replacing the LRMTS unit with a FLIR/IRST unit?  Not quite a radar, but still capable of cueing the WVRAAM toward a target.
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: coops213 on January 10, 2012, 05:07:30 PM
All great ideas guys, thanks. Moritz, I was just thinking about doing a Spanish F.1 style Harrier!

I think I'll give the AV-8A/C a shot, essentially it's just trimming down the nose further and removing the RWR. Right?

I've also been psyching myself up to modify my FRS.1 profile into an FA.2. It's probably a less drastic change than FRS.1 to GR.3. Anyway, that'll open up some new profile possibilities.
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: ChernayaAkula on January 11, 2012, 12:23:36 AM
Yay! Spanish harrier!  8)

<...>I think I'll give the AV-8A/C a shot, essentially it's just trimming down the nose further and removing the RWR. Right? <...>

At least that's what Esci has for different parts for AV-8A and GR.3. That and a long blade aerial on the spine for the USMC version and a shorter, chopped aerial for the Spanish Harriers.
I like the AV-8A/GR.1 because the short nose gives them even more of a hawk-ish look. Coupled with the tucked-in cockpit, high back and down-turned wings, they kinda resemble birds of prey.
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: dy031101 on January 11, 2012, 01:41:24 AM
DY031101, how about the Thai's getting a bunch of Harrier GR.3 nose sections and replacing the LRMTS unit with a FLIR/IRST unit?  Not quite a radar, but still capable of cueing the WVRAAM toward a target.

Didn't think of that...... I suppose that's one way one way to do it (I placed missile range as the prime consideration).

Oh now I have an idea inspired by Coops213's other R-60-armed Harrier- Kopyo pod on the centreline station of some export AV-8A and/or GR.3?  >:D

I've also been psyching myself up to modify my FRS.1 profile into an FA.2. It's probably a less drastic change than FRS.1 to GR.3. Anyway, that'll open up some new profile possibilities.

If you do it, I'll officially place my ROCN request on the table.  :)
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on January 11, 2012, 02:22:02 AM
Quote
Kopyo pod on the centreline station of some export AV-8A and/or GR.3?

I like your thinking!
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: elmayerle on January 11, 2012, 12:08:48 PM
Should you decide to do AV-8A's/Matadors/Harrier GR.1's, how about a Finnish example with Soviet weaponry or an Argentinian "Matador" based in the Malvinas and armed with Sidewinders on the outboard hardpoints, "Martin Kingfisher" ASMs on the inner hardpoints, and the guidance pod for the ASMs on the centerline hardpoint.  I've got both of these on my "to do" list.
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: elmayerle on January 11, 2012, 12:13:09 PM
dy03101, there's also the "Maritime Harrier" radar nose that was trialed on a DB Harrier GR.1 (one of the first ones, with six blow-in doors instead of eight) before they decided to go with the more extensive redesign as the Sea Harrier FRS.1.  I've always thought it'd look good on a 1st generation Harrier trainer for Sea Harrier operators rather than the mixed training of Hunter T.8M's and Harrier T.4N's.
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: coops213 on January 12, 2012, 06:30:05 PM
Should you decide to do AV-8A's/Matadors/Harrier GR.1's, how about a Finnish example with Soviet weaponry or an Argentinian "Matador" based in the Malvinas and armed with Sidewinders on the outboard hardpoints, "Martin Kingfisher" ASMs on the inner hardpoints, and the guidance pod for the ASMs on the centerline hardpoint.  I've got both of these on my "to do" list.

Great ideas! I particularly like the Malvinas based harrier. Do you have any reference pics of the Kingfisher ASM?
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on January 12, 2012, 06:49:30 PM
I think Evan is referring to the Martin Pescador missile.
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: coops213 on January 12, 2012, 07:15:07 PM
I think Evan is referring to the Martin Pescador missile.


Ah thanks. There doesn't seem to be much out there about them.

I've redone my Israeli GR.3 with new colours. There's more contrast between the green and brown which helps them stand out a bit more. I also gave it more time period appropriate weapons.
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a390/cncooper/what-if/HarrierGR3IDF-r.jpg)

Another IDF Harrier, in modern colours:
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a390/cncooper/what-if/HarrierGR3IDF2.jpg)

And an Indian GR.3, toting Sea Eagle missiles:
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a390/cncooper/what-if/HarrierGR3Indian.jpg)

Chris
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: Maverick on January 12, 2012, 08:26:33 PM
Nice stuff Chris.  The Matras on the Indian bird are a nice touch.

Regards,

John
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on January 13, 2012, 02:11:54 AM
The Indian GR.3 is great - it is one of those things that you may even pass of as real at a chance. 
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: Doom! on January 13, 2012, 02:18:23 AM
Chris, your latest trio of harriers are real knockouts.  :)
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: Gekko1 on January 13, 2012, 02:40:37 AM
Wow! Amazing Harriers!

Cheers

Richard.
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: elmayerle on January 13, 2012, 10:33:32 AM
My error; yes, I was referring to the Martin Pescador.  it takes a bit of googling to find info since that's also the name of a bird, but the dimensions are out there.  From what I've found, I think I can model it using a Shrike body with new fins.  You can find pictures, but I've not found many.
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: JP Vieira on January 14, 2012, 02:20:23 AM
There's some technical information about that ASM in Wikipedia; the Designation is Martin Pescador MP-1000
here is the link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Pescador_MP-1000 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Pescador_MP-1000)
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: elmayerle on January 14, 2012, 01:51:43 PM
My thinking was that an Argentinian Matador based in the Malvinas would use a camo pattern similar to the A-4s and MB339s stationed there (the FCM special set is a great help here - I can scan and send the pertinent parts if needed).  I've already described the stores fitment I propose.
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: Sentinel Chicken on January 14, 2012, 01:56:37 PM
The Indian GR.3 is great - it is one of those things that you may even pass of as real at a chance. 
I agree- the more I look at it, the more it seems to make sense. I'd bet Scooterman's left nut that if someone built that for a show and entered it, most of the judges wouldn't pick it out as a whiff.
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on January 14, 2012, 01:58:34 PM
I'd bet Scooterman's left nut ...

Yikes!  I wonder if he feels as strongly? ;D
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: coops213 on January 14, 2012, 02:31:37 PM
My thinking was that an Argentinian Matador based in the Malvinas would use a camo pattern similar to the A-4s and MB339s stationed there (the FCM special set is a great help here - I can scan and send the pertinent parts if needed).  I've already described the stores fitment I propose.


That'd help a good deal with markings and such. If you could email those bits to me that'd be great.

For now, here's the first GR.1, hot off the press. Spanish air force:
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a390/cncooper/what-if/HarrierGR1spanish.jpg)

Chris
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: elmayerle on January 14, 2012, 02:36:55 PM
Damn, that's gorgeous.  How about a GR.3S+ with the LID'd cannon pods et al. of the AV-8C?  Oh, if you decide to do a blank for the AV-8C, the recce camera in the nose gets removed and the window replaced by sheet metal and there are some small RHAW receivers on the wing leading edge near the wingtips as well as, ISTR, some added chaff/flare dispensers; I'll have to see what good references I have there.
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: Maverick on January 14, 2012, 03:08:38 PM
Don't forget the big dorsal antenna they fitted.  The Squadron/Signal book is quite good at pointing out salient features.

Regards,

John
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: Sentinel Chicken on January 14, 2012, 11:16:13 PM
I'd bet Scooterman's left nut ...

Yikes!  I wonder if he feels as strongly? ;D
If he's had beer, he won't be the wiser for it. Shhhhhhh.
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: coops213 on January 15, 2012, 10:19:27 AM
Finland!
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a390/cncooper/what-if/HarrierGR1Finland.jpg)
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on January 15, 2012, 10:25:22 AM
Sweet...

...I will also make sure TSRJoe has access to the darkroom to be alone with this one as I am sure he will want to. ;)

Regards,

Greg
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: elmayerle on January 15, 2012, 10:37:57 AM
Very nice, indeed.  I can just see one like that fitted out with Soviet weaponry instead of Western weaponry (Atolls instead of Sidewinders and Soviet rocket pods on the inner hardpoints where a RAF Harrier would have MATRA pods).
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: Scooterman on January 15, 2012, 11:04:17 AM
I'd bet Scooterman's left nut ...

Yikes!  I wonder if he feels as strongly? ;D
If he's had beer, he won't be the wiser for it. Shhhhhhh.
Just wait until the other one drops first, OK JP?   :o
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: Scooterman on January 15, 2012, 11:05:53 AM
Gawd that Spanish Harrier is just KILLER!!!!!!!!!!!  :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: ChernayaAkula on January 15, 2012, 12:13:39 PM
^ Yeah, it is!  I knew it'd look great, but I didn't expect it to look THAT great! (http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m309/ChernayaAkula/Emoticons/worship.gif)

The more I look at it, the more I like that Finnish one as well. It just makes perfect sense!
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: Logan Hartke on January 15, 2012, 01:53:29 PM
I love the Spanish and Finnish Harriers!

Cheers,

Logan
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: dy031101 on January 15, 2012, 01:58:19 PM
Gawd that Spanish Harrier is just KILLER!!!!!!!!!!!  :-* :-* :-*

I agree!  :)

And the Finnish Harrier, too.
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: AXOR on January 15, 2012, 06:26:15 PM
I appreciate your work and I like your style
Finnish Harrier looks so good !
(http://www.bestemoticon.com/smiley/respect/0014.gif)

Alex

Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: Empty Handed on January 16, 2012, 01:59:03 AM
Sweet Harriers!
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: JP Vieira on January 16, 2012, 05:42:08 AM
A Portuguese Harrier would look good... :)
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: coops213 on January 26, 2012, 07:38:36 AM
It's been a little while since I last posted, a certain MW3 has proven to be quite distracting! Anyway, here's something quick for Australia Day. I'll try and get back to some requests soon.
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a390/cncooper/what-if/HarrierGR1RAAF.jpg)

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on January 26, 2012, 07:38:04 AM
Nice mate.
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: Logan Hartke on January 26, 2012, 10:42:51 AM
Very pretty.

Cheers,

Logan
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: Cliffy B on January 26, 2012, 10:54:50 AM
Sweet!
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: elmayerle on January 26, 2012, 11:47:34 AM
Gorgeous RAAF Harrier.  Any chance of it being joined by a RNZAF Harrier and a RAN Sea Harrier?
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: nebnoswal on January 26, 2012, 05:33:24 PM
Great work Coops.
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: coops213 on January 26, 2012, 06:57:19 PM
Gorgeous RAAF Harrier.  Any chance of it being joined by a RNZAF Harrier and a RAN Sea Harrier?


Actually I've already done both of them. I did an RNZAF GR3 not too long ago:
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a390/cncooper/what-if/HarrierGR3RNZAF2.jpg)

And a while back I did a few RAN Sea Harriers or different vintages:
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a390/cncooper/what%20if/SeaHarrierRAN.jpg)

(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a390/cncooper/what%20if/SeaHarrierRAN2.jpg)

(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a390/cncooper/what%20if/SeaHarrierRANcamo.jpg)

(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a390/cncooper/what%20if/SeaHarrierRANlate.jpg)

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on January 27, 2012, 03:10:12 AM
Mmmm...still looking good!
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: Brian da Basher on January 27, 2012, 08:11:17 AM
Great stuff, coops! There's something about Oz & Kiwi markings that really amps those babies up!

Brian da Basher
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: Sentinel Chicken on January 28, 2012, 11:48:43 PM
I'd do very dirty things in a dark room with those RAN Sea Harriers.

Just sayin'.
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: coops213 on January 29, 2012, 01:37:04 PM
Time for some South American Harriers! First up, elmayerle's requested Pescador armed Agentinian Harriers:
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a390/cncooper/what-if/HarrierGR1Arg1.jpg)

(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a390/cncooper/what-if/HarrierGR1Arg2.jpg)

and a Brizilian Navy Sea Harrier:
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a390/cncooper/what-if/SeaHarrierBrazil.jpg)

Chris
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on January 29, 2012, 01:39:23 PM
Very nice.  A Falklands War with Harrier against Harrier could have been interesting.
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: coops213 on January 29, 2012, 01:58:15 PM
Very nice.  A Falklands War with Harrier against Harrier could have been interesting.

Indeed. I wonder how FRS.1 and GR.1 would compare manoeuvrability wise. I understand they both used the same powerplants, the airframes are almost the same. Obviously the FRS.1 has all the bells and whistles to deal with air to air combat
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on January 29, 2012, 02:05:01 PM
I think a lot would come down to pilot training and support systems/elements.
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: Logan Hartke on January 29, 2012, 02:53:50 PM
All 3 of those are fantastic.

Cheers,

Logan
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: nebnoswal on January 29, 2012, 06:56:52 PM
Very nice.  A Falklands War with Harrier against Harrier could have been interesting.

Indeed. I wonder how FRS.1 and GR.1 would compare manoeuvrability wise. I understand they both used the same powerplants, the airframes are almost the same. Obviously the FRS.1 has all the bells and whistles to deal with air to air combat
Armament would also have a big say in it.  The Brits had the latest Aim-9 sidewinder, the Lima "all-aspect", whereas the Argies at best would probably only have the Bravo, a tail chaser.  Would the GR.1 have the range from the mainland, or would they risk forward deploying them at Pt Stanley?  Obviously VTOL means they could be based anywhere, but they then become a prime target for Brits, especially the men in the sandy berets!
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: Doom! on January 30, 2012, 12:47:01 AM
Chris, latest batch of harriers is gorgeous!
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: elmayerle on January 30, 2012, 02:01:03 AM
Simply gorgeous work on those Harriers!!  Definitely an inspiration to model them.
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: JoseFern on January 30, 2012, 09:59:42 PM
Yes indeed, splendid work! Especially on the SHAR of the Brazilian Navy! 8)
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: Sentinel Chicken on January 31, 2012, 12:54:15 PM
I'll echo everyone's comments with just how nice that Brazilian Shar looks. Maybe that's what I'll do with a Sea Harrier I have in the stash!
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: coops213 on February 05, 2012, 12:42:16 PM
Thanks all! Here's another request, a Thai ASRAAM armed Harrier.
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a390/cncooper/what-if/HarrierGR1thailand.jpg)

Chris
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on February 05, 2012, 01:08:30 PM
Believable.
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: AXOR on February 05, 2012, 04:56:19 PM
I do a great job with those Harriers  :-* all are fantastic !
I would like to see a Romanian one... :P if is possible.

Alex
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: The Big Gimper on February 05, 2012, 07:34:14 PM
Nice work Chris. May I request a Korean Navy FRS.1? One hi-vis and one low?

Carl
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: dy031101 on February 06, 2012, 12:20:26 AM
Excellent!  Thanks!  :)
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: JP Vieira on February 06, 2012, 01:00:30 AM
Looking good!
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: elmayerle on February 06, 2012, 03:40:21 AM
Gorgeous job on that Thai Harrier.  It's purely coincidental that I've got a 1/48 set of decals for Thai Harriers on it's way to me.
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on February 06, 2012, 04:12:20 AM
It's purely coincidental

Or is it...maybe the God's are telling you something...
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: ChernayaAkula on February 06, 2012, 10:41:18 AM
Really nice! (http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m309/ChernayaAkula/Emoticons/377.gif)

Not too much into the Brazilian stuff usually, but that SHAR looks just great! And the three-tone camo is awesome, too.  Also diggin' the Argie harriers. Maybe Magic Is instead of 'winders?
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: Rafael on February 06, 2012, 10:05:56 PM
Coops I'm sweating Harriers  >:D....And I love it!!!  :-*
That's one airplane that should have had a more varied clientele.
Great work!
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: coops213 on February 11, 2012, 02:21:36 PM
Thanks all! And thanks for the suggestions. Here are a couple of those requested. First up a Potugeuese GR.3:
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a390/cncooper/what-if/HarrierGR3PoAF.jpg)

And a hi-viz Korean navy FRS.1:
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a390/cncooper/what-if/SeaHarrierKorean1.jpg)

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: JoseFern on February 11, 2012, 03:10:33 PM
Excellent work Chris! :)
Thanks for Potuguese GR.3, but the Korean SHAR looks particularly good! 8)
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: JP Vieira on February 11, 2012, 07:40:11 PM
Many thanks Christopher for attending my request for a Portuguese Harrier: It looks amazing. Execellent work.
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: The Big Gimper on February 11, 2012, 08:08:52 PM
Many thanks Chris for the Korean Harrier. Most excellent work.

Being named after a dog, the A/C will be eaten when it has reached it's end of service life.  ;D
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: Scooterman on February 12, 2012, 07:44:33 AM
Those last two are just TASTY!!  Like the SEA on the GR.3.
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: Empty Handed on February 12, 2012, 09:52:45 PM
Quote
...but the Korean SHAR looks particularly good!

I quite agree!
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: coops213 on February 26, 2012, 08:16:01 PM
Thanks all! Back with a few more after a bit of a break. First is another Korean navy Shar, low viz this time:
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a390/cncooper/what-if/SeaHarrierKorean2.jpg)

A retro USMC AV-8A:
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a390/cncooper/what-if/HarrierGR1retro.jpg)

And here's the blank artwork I made for these profiles, your choice of pylons or no pylons (click the thumbnails, the images are pretty massive)
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a390/cncooper/what-if/th_SeaHarrierblank.png) (http://s15.photobucket.com/albums/a390/cncooper/what-if/?action=view&current=SeaHarrierblank.png)

(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a390/cncooper/what-if/th_SeaHarrierblankstores.png) (http://s15.photobucket.com/albums/a390/cncooper/what-if/?action=view&current=SeaHarrierblankstores.png)
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: The Big Gimper on February 26, 2012, 09:08:16 PM
Thanks Chris. The Marine bird is also a keeper.
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: Doom! on February 27, 2012, 01:08:30 AM
Chris, your Harriers really are outstanding!  :-*
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on February 27, 2012, 01:44:44 AM
The retro USMC one is a winner - would look outstanding in plastic.
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: elmayerle on February 27, 2012, 12:17:27 PM
The lo-viz Korean Sea Harrier and the retro-scheme Marine Harrier are both gorgeous.  Only nit to pick is that the Marine one would either be an AH-1, since the final contract came through St. Louis after the US rights were transferred or the AT-1 if Northrop had insisted on retaining the US rights.
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: Gekko1 on February 27, 2012, 05:42:00 PM
The retro USMC one is a winner - would look outstanding in plastic.

Yes, I was thinking the same thing! ;)
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: JoseFern on February 28, 2012, 05:37:30 AM
The USMC looks so natural that I haven't even noticed the retro-scheme! 8)
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: elmayerle on February 28, 2012, 11:14:26 AM
Just a thought: to match that retro-scheme, an AV-8A in Blue Angels markings.
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: coops213 on February 28, 2012, 06:18:00 PM
Thanks all! Here's another requested Thai Matador:
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a390/cncooper/what-if/HarrierGR3Thailand.jpg)

...Only nit to pick is that the Marine one would either be an AH-1, since the final contract came through St. Louis after the US rights were transferred or the AT-1 if Northrop had insisted on retaining the US rights.


I knew I'd balls up the designation! Thank god they got rid of that system, from looking over the wikipedia page it seems needlessly complicated and inconsistent.

Chris
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: JP Vieira on February 28, 2012, 11:22:35 PM
Excellent work!
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: Empty Handed on February 28, 2012, 11:52:26 PM
The Thai Matador is a real looker!
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: elmayerle on February 29, 2012, 12:10:31 PM
Gorgeous AV-8S+ and a suitable way of earning some foreign exchange for surplus Hararier GR.3's.  It would be interesting to see Thailand run all of its Harriers through a CILOP program to update them, where practical, with AV-8C upgrades, especially the LIDS and doing away with the internal camera.
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: Sentinel Chicken on March 07, 2012, 08:44:53 AM
Me likey the Korean Sea Harriers!
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: dy031101 on March 07, 2012, 09:24:47 AM
Almost missed your second Thai Harrier (slapping self in the head).

Awesome!  And thanks!  :)
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: tsrjoe on November 01, 2012, 07:28:08 PM
oooh just noticed back on page 6 ...   8) waw, stunning, how the  :o did i miss that one, very cool, it looks soo right too, many thanks indeed Chris, it looks so right in the scheme too (hmm im wondering how it would look in similar markings but in the later two greys 'redigo scheme' as applied to the Hawks ? maybe even with UV.16 pods in place of the Matra's ?)

cheers, Joe
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: M.A.D on February 03, 2013, 11:46:48 AM
What has become of Chris (Coops213)???
Last post was Feb 2012!

Hope your well mate :)

M.A.D
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on February 03, 2013, 12:55:35 PM
I have been in contact with Chris just recently.  He is well.  He has just gotten caught up in some other hobbies such as making UAVs and getting engaged. ;)
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: elmayerle on February 03, 2013, 01:14:56 PM
Making UAVs as a hobby or professionally?  The first could get "interesting" if you get too good while the second makes for interesting work, even if you can't talk about it.
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on February 03, 2013, 01:17:14 PM
Hobby.
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: elmayerle on February 03, 2013, 01:28:16 PM
Ah.  He'd best not get too good at, certain authorities probably wouldn't appreciate private parties having very good capabilities that way.
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: M.A.D on February 03, 2013, 05:22:27 PM
I have been in contact with Chris just recently.  He is well.  He has just gotten caught up in some other hobbies such as making UAVs and getting engaged. ;)
Thanks Greg, good to know his ok!!
If his building UAV's and getting engaged he his well adapt to receiving commands then  ;D
Good on him!!

M.A.D
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on February 04, 2013, 02:01:33 AM
Quote from Chris:

Quote
I've been working with the groups at diydrones.com to build my own autonomous quadrotor and fixed wing aircraft.
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: M.A.D on February 04, 2013, 05:26:54 AM
Thanks mate! Please give my regards and congratulations next time you speak to him!

M.A.D
Title: Re: Coops213's profiles
Post by: Daryl J. on April 14, 2013, 02:01:03 PM
Turn this guy loose on FA.2's !   :)