P-51 Mustang and Derivates Ideas and Inspiration

[Litvyak]

That's one odd looking machine.

(Non sequitur, but seeing that "(C) United States Department of Defense" tag there makes me laugh, since anything produced by an employee of the US Government in the course of his duties is automatically in the public domain...)

[elmayerle]

Stepping back to the standard combat-ready Mustang II by Cavalier,  I wonder how the extra hardpoints and tip tanks would look on a P-51B/C.

[AGRA]

The Dart powered Mustang III was always a gap filler by Cavalier for the engine they really wanted which was the Lycoming T55 (same engine as the H-47 which was upsized from the Huey’s T53). Cavalier sold the Mustang III on to Piper who were able to acquire a T55 and renamed the Mustang III with the right engine the Enforcer. If USAF had been enthused with the Mustang III (and they weren’t) then they could have supplied T55s from day one for a production combat ready plane. Piper were able to earmark $12 million ten years later for an Enforcer program but its time had passed.

[AGRA]

Stepping back to the standard combat-ready Mustang II by Cavalier,  I wonder how the extra hardpoints and tip tanks would look on a P-51B/C.

Thanks to flight simulators, something like this:

[AGRA]

Thanks to flight simulators, something like this:

Ahh my bad, I see what you said. P-51B! or P-51C! With the razorback cockpit not a bubble cockpit.

[elmayerle]

Thanks to flight simulators, something like this:

Ahh my bad, I see what you said. P-51B! or P-51C! With the razorback cockpit not a bubble cockpit.

Indeed!!  Now that I think about it, I wonder how a war-surplus "Junkyard Dawg" might fall into their hands?  Perhaps the 20mm cannon betting replaced with newer weapons of the same bore?  That plus the rest of Cavalier's work could get may for a very interesting aircraft.

[AGRA]

Indeed!!  Now that I think about it, I wonder how a war-surplus "Junkyard Dawg" might fall into their hands?  Perhaps the 20mm cannon betting replaced with newer weapons of the same bore?  That plus the rest of Cavalier's work could get may for a very interesting aircraft.

They could have converted bubble to non bubble so as to work in armoured glass side and rear view windows for the pilot.

[elmayerle]

Indeed!!  Now that I think about it, I wonder how a war-surplus "Junkyard Dawg" might fall into their hands?  Perhaps the 20mm cannon betting replaced with newer weapons of the same bore?  That plus the rest of Cavalier's work could get may for a very interesting aircraft.

They could have converted bubble to non bubble so as to work in armoured glass side and rear view windows for the pilot.

I could see that working.  However, I was referring to my "Junkyard Dawg" concept outlined above, the P-51B/C with a Mustang I/P=51 wing with 4x20mm cannon.  Be interesting to see that one worked over by Cavalier.  'Twould be an interesting "evolution".

[AGRA]

I could see that working.  However, I was referring to my "Junkyard Dawg" concept outlined above, the P-51B/C with a Mustang I/P=51 wing with 4x20mm cannon.  Be interesting to see that one worked over by Cavalier.  'Twould be an interesting "evolution".

You could have any number of desperate for combat aircraft users doing something similar from junkyards. Like Biafra, Rhodesia, Royal Laotian/Cambodian, Paraguay, etc. It doesn’t have to be a Cavalier project they could just be rebuilding P-51s as air to ground platforms and doing similar (convergent evolution). A Rhodesian Mustang II with MG151 20mm guns in the wing and Mini Golf bombs and Naplam under wing would be pretty cool. Kind of a super Lynx (Cessna 322s).

[raafif]

Dominican Republic had B's, C's & D's all at the same time, so a Cavalier P-51B with Lycoming engine be a good item for them.

How about a Lycoming A-36 with tiptanks, rockets etc?

[raafif]

the Corstang ....
http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Gal8/7001-7100/gal7073-Corstang-Miller/00.shtm

[Logan Hartke]

Oh wow, that thing is awesome!

Cheers,

Logan

[A1_Phoenix]

More complex turbine design, thanks to IL2Freemodding.. :)



and a video

PA 48 Enforcer

that thing is a beast! 

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A1

[GTX_Admin]

Wow!!!

[raafif]

Nice Naval Enforcer !  I tried to do that with an old Idea Mustang kit but even the fuselage halves didn't fit together   I now have aspare Tamiya kit so may do it now .... any ideas on where to get a 1/48th contra-prop ?

[gofy]

It may be off scale, but an Airfix Seafire 47?

[kitnut617]

The only contra-prop that I know looks like that is on a Boeing F8B, now whether there's one on 1/48 scale I don't know

[gofy]

While it's been done already in plastic by a couple people, I'd love to see an Allison-engined -D model.   Why the -D rather than a bubble topped P-51A?   Better proportions IMHO.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/47751/message/1238634340/Since+it%27s+April+Fool%27s+Day...

From Hyperscale...

[raafif]

[Daryl J.]

Gofy, that's precisely the machine I had in mind.   Ron's a great builder.

[RussC]

Heavily armed American Welkin, at the first blush. But it fits right into that late war/post war twin fighters group like the F-82, Hornet, Tu-2 et al. 

It really looks more like a high altitude machine than a tactical support type.

[Tophe]

Nice F-52!

[raafif]

even better with a T-tail -- maybe 4 x 20mm in the nose (as well as the 16 x 50cals in the pods) as a bomber-destroyer.

[elmayerle]

I have something similar in mind, without the wing gunpods, for a "first cut" P-82 based on a P-51B with stretched rear fuselage (taken from a F-82).

[Daryl J.]

After having a look at Airfix new tool 1/72 P-51D, I'll just have to toss the fabric wing variant onto the unsuspecting public.