Author Topic: Space reserved for a Monogram Phantom  (Read 4695 times)

Offline Daryl J.

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Space reserved for a Monogram Phantom
« on: January 25, 2015, 03:29:40 PM »
The goal: 
1/48 McDonnell attack aircraft.

The kit:
1/48 Monogram F-4 (any) Phantom, two kits needed, one in posession. The others are locked away in the divorce procedings....and likely to remain for a while.

The challenge:
Low budget, visually interesting spurious conversion.

The plan:
To make a not-F3H-G/F-4A/F-4B relative of the Phantom Phamily.....name to be determined...possibly along the lines of a Voodoo curse....or some such McDonnell think of the era.
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Offline Daryl J.

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Re: Space reserved for a Monogram Phantom
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2015, 03:42:23 PM »
The ideas thus far:
Small radome similar to earliest F-4A prototypes
Thin wing, F-4B wheel/tires.
Flat wing.
Leading edge extension resulting in increased sweep.
Revised intakes similar to the Aurora-tooled Phantom.
Extended upper rear fuselage.
Revised tailplane in its entirety.
Canopy painted black as all my paints, thinners, and airbrush are locked up precluding a great cockpit effort. 

Completion goal: 1 year. I have every other weekend free and part of that is spent with film photography.

Debating:
Conversion to single seat
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Re: Space reserved for a Monogram Phantom
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2015, 08:30:19 PM »
I will be following this one as it progresses.  Sounds like an interesting build, and you've laid out some intriguing changes.

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Re: Space reserved for a Monogram Phantom
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2015, 11:18:00 PM »
Well, now, I could possibly help here, I've got more than one of the Falcon 1/48 conversions for the F4H-1/F-4A with the low canopy and small radome (note, if you're going single-seater, the low canopy makes sense, cover over the back seat area as an avionics bay).  It also has, IIRC, the early curved intakes.  I only need one to take the canopy from for a single-seat derivative of the F-4E, so I've got a spare.

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Re: Space reserved for a Monogram Phantom
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2015, 12:18:27 AM »
Well, now, I could possibly help here, I've got more than one of the Falcon 1/48 conversions for the F4H-1/F-4A with the low canopy and small radome (note, if you're going single-seater, the low canopy makes sense, cover over the back seat area as an avionics bay).  It also has, IIRC, the early curved intakes.  I only need one to take the canopy from for a single-seat derivative of the F-4E, so I've got a spare.

Can't get any better deal than that!

I'll get out my book of Voodoo spells and see if I can put a T tail curse on your project.......

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Re: Space reserved for a Monogram Phantom
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2015, 03:16:17 AM »
Don't forget the real world dedicated ground attack Phantom studies here
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Re: Space reserved for a Monogram Phantom
« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2015, 04:09:09 AM »
You might consider re-doing the tail more along the lines of the original F-101 mockup which was far closer to the XF-88's configuration than the T-tail that was built.

As for a name, perhaps appropriating the "Spectre" name given, in RL, to the F-110A?  Alternatively, perhaps "Phantasm" would work?

Offline Daryl J.

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Re: Space reserved for a Monogram Phantom
« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2015, 05:10:39 AM »
I've not seen photos of the 101 mockup and is the first I've heard of a non-T tail.

Spectre....I'd thought of that. Spook or Mudspookand maybe. Hexwitch perhaps.

I think the kit in hand is going to be the auxiliary kit donating fuselage bits and wing chunks. It's moulded like a corkscrew! :icon_twisted:   Geeze. The QC people must have been texting their friends when this came out of the steel.

Evan, thanks for the offer....with legals in place, that'll have to be a non-starter this time around.   Thanks though!
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Re: Space reserved for a Monogram Phantom
« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2015, 09:00:57 AM »
I'd be willing to donate it as a gift if that would help with the legals.  Let me do a bit of digging, I know I've got a picture of that mockup, or sources I can scan it from if I can't find it.

Oops, sorry about that.  The incorrect image has been removed.  Had some other photos mixed in with the aircraft ones.

Note, a photo of the F-101 mockup with cruciform tail can be found in the F-101 thread of the "Inspiration" forum where I posted it sometime back.
« Last Edit: January 26, 2015, 10:03:10 AM by elmayerle »

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Re: Space reserved for a Monogram Phantom
« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2015, 09:24:34 AM »
You've made an old man go weak at the knees! :P
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Re: Space reserved for a Monogram Phantom
« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2015, 10:37:16 AM »
You've made an old man go weak at the knees! :P
Oops, sorry about that.  The incorrect image has been removed.  Had some other photos mixed in with the aircraft ones.

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Re: Space reserved for a Monogram Phantom
« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2015, 03:06:30 PM »
You've made an old man go weak at the knees! :P
Oops, sorry about that.  The incorrect image has been removed.  Had some other photos mixed in with the aircraft ones.

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Re: Space reserved for a Monogram Phantom
« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2015, 03:22:45 PM »
Damn Brother, I just scrapped a Mono Phantom ibn an ongoing stash spurge. ( Yes dear fellows I've bee n triaging the stash and junking those that don't make the cut.) Wish i'd known of yer need.

Inter alia if you need to flee North for a mental break, please let me know and we'll arrange a space within which you can relax.
Kidlets will be welcome and can be accommodated if required.
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