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Re: Anti-Aircraft: SPAAG/SAM Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #250 on: November 01, 2018, 02:48:47 PM »




A new Chinese 10x10 SPAAG vehicle, apparently armed with a 75mm autocannon.

I'm guessing it's similar in concept and intention as the OTO-Melara Otomatic SPAAG concept of the 80's, except wheeled, as opposed to tracked!

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Re: Anti-Aircraft: SPAAG/SAM Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #251 on: November 01, 2018, 08:31:08 PM »
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Re: Anti-Aircraft: SPAAG/SAM Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #252 on: November 03, 2018, 09:48:58 AM »
I'm guessing it's similar in concept and intention as the OTO-Melara Otomatic SPAAG concept of the 80's, except wheeled, as opposed to tracked!

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Funny you should mention that.  It was the exact same response on the forum where I found the pictures.  Funny that, hey?   Chinese knock-off copy?

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Re: Anti-Aircraft: SPAAG/SAM Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #253 on: December 27, 2019, 03:58:57 AM »
Supposedly there was a proposed land based version of the Sea Phoenix variant of the AIM-54.  Presumably this would have been also carried in a box launcher similar to what was proposed for Sea Phoenix, though presumably it would have been a smaller set up than what was expected on a carrier.  Any ideas on what sort of vehicle they may be been considering?  Given USMC links, I could see something such as a converted Image result for LVTP-7/AAV-7A1.
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Re: Anti-Aircraft: SPAAG/SAM Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #254 on: February 22, 2020, 02:05:52 PM »
Does anybody have a good 3 view drawing of the Otomatic 76mm?

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Re: Anti-Aircraft: SPAAG/SAM Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #255 on: February 23, 2020, 01:27:40 AM »
Don't have a 3-view, but there are these:



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Re: Anti-Aircraft: SPAAG/SAM Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #256 on: February 23, 2020, 10:08:18 AM »
Thanks!

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Re: Anti-Aircraft: SPAAG/SAM Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #257 on: March 22, 2020, 11:13:13 AM »
Something different for HAWK missiles:




Interesting and sensible GTX

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Re: Anti-Aircraft: SPAAG/SAM Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #258 on: April 24, 2020, 09:20:34 AM »
Vietnamese homemade self propelled AA system with K-13 air defense missiles based on BTR-40 APC



K-13 is a Soviet reverse engineered Sidewinder https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K-13_(missile)


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Re: Anti-Aircraft: SPAAG/SAM Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #259 on: April 27, 2020, 01:03:34 PM »
Modernized 2K12 Kub/SA-6 Gainful - original missiles replaced with MDBA Aspide 2000


SOURCE + additional info and photos

It's interesting how changing the missiles for a containerized version gives the whole system a much more modern look.
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Re: Anti-Aircraft: SPAAG/SAM Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #260 on: April 29, 2020, 08:06:36 PM »
Just stumbled across this Concept sketch of a [South African] SPAAG based on the Ratel ICV
It looks like its very much based on (or quite possibly is) the Krauss-Maffei Wildcat 30mm turret.



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Re: Anti-Aircraft: SPAAG/SAM Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #261 on: April 30, 2020, 02:51:15 AM »
Similar:



Plus a SAM version:



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Re: Anti-Aircraft: SPAAG/SAM Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #262 on: May 01, 2020, 03:48:28 AM »
Supposedly a Valentine with Twin 40mm AA but I am not certain:

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Re: Anti-Aircraft: SPAAG/SAM Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #263 on: May 01, 2020, 06:58:55 AM »
Supposedly a Valentine with Twin 40mm AA but I am not certain:
No, it's a custom hull, but part of the development process for the M19 MGMC. It's hard to tell from here, but I'm pretty sure the suspension units are from the Stuart.

Yep, just looked it up in Hunnicutt's "Stuart". T65 MGMC

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Re: Anti-Aircraft: SPAAG/SAM Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #264 on: May 01, 2020, 07:01:38 AM »
Yeah, that running gear doesn't really scream "Valentine", does it? Looked American to me. Reminded me of the T23 medium tank prototype.
Some digging revealed a name: T65 40mm Gun Motor Carriage. A 40mm Bofors gun on a modified M5 Light Tank chassis. SOURCE
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Re: Anti-Aircraft: SPAAG/SAM Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #265 on: May 02, 2020, 03:26:36 AM »
Thanks guys - I doubted it too.  Moving back to others:

Light Tank Mk VIB with twin 15mm Besa guns:



Light Mk VI fitted with quad Boulton & Paul aircraft-type turret:

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Re: Anti-Aircraft: SPAAG/SAM Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #266 on: May 04, 2020, 03:46:02 AM »
Small mobile AA:

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Re: Anti-Aircraft: SPAAG/SAM Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #267 on: May 04, 2020, 08:19:21 AM »
The throttle would probably be up to Eleven to get that moving cross country

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Re: Anti-Aircraft: SPAAG/SAM Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #268 on: May 05, 2020, 03:50:05 AM »
Following on from earlier post:  South African Rooikat ZA-35 SPAAG:


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Re: Anti-Aircraft: SPAAG/SAM Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #269 on: May 08, 2020, 06:27:20 AM »
Advanced Chaparral_Chapfire on XM1108 Universal Carrier
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Advanced Chaparral_Chapfire on modified GM Canada LAV 8x8 (M1047A)

P.S. I really like the potential usefulness of both the XM1108 and cut-down LAV III as the basis for many other roles.

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Re: Anti-Aircraft: SPAAG/SAM Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #270 on: May 08, 2020, 10:27:34 AM »
Replace Chaparral missiles with derivatives of ASRAAM, AIM-9X, IRIS-T, or Japan's AAM-5?  Then combine with various possible carrying vehicles; perhaps something on a Stryker?

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Re: Anti-Aircraft: SPAAG/SAM Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #271 on: May 09, 2020, 01:56:53 AM »
Sweden uses a variant of the IRIS-T called the BRS 98:




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Re: Anti-Aircraft: SPAAG/SAM Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #272 on: May 09, 2020, 02:08:23 AM »
The MBDA CAMM (Land Application) is essentially a land based ASRAAM:




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Re: Anti-Aircraft: SPAAG/SAM Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #273 on: May 09, 2020, 02:22:07 AM »
Raytheon has developed and tested a ground based version of AIM-9X - IIRC, it is also likely to be part of Australia's Land 19 Phase 7B (along with AIM-120C-7s):





Boeing was offering an updated version of the Avenger system with it too:



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Re: Anti-Aircraft: SPAAG/SAM Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #274 on: May 09, 2020, 02:36:45 AM »
And in a similar vein, there is the Rafael Spyder which uses versions of the Python 5 and Derby:

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