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Scimitar Down-Under - Finished (pics pg.2)
« on: September 13, 2016, 09:55:42 PM »
OK, last night I began my aircraft recovery session & pulled out a bunch of armour models.

1st up is my AFV Club CVR(T) FV107 Scimitar.

Selected because it is a nice, simple little kit, I'll be doing it as an Australian vehicle.

Don't know if it'll be Marines, Army or, even, RAAF airfield defence regiment, yet, but it will be in my Royal Australian Marines time-line.

May do photo's soon ... or I may just spring the final result on you (it's coming together that well, so far). ;)


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Re: Scimitar Down-Under
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2016, 11:50:12 PM »
Cool!

In the old days when I used to gallivant around the country side in M-113 LRVs (Light Reconnaissance Vehicles) I and others used to fantasize about having Scorpions, Scimitars, or similar (or at least something with some combat power)

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Re: Scimitar Down-Under
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2016, 05:27:31 AM »
Make it a RAAF ADG one just to be really different.
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« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2016, 04:30:16 PM »
Make it a RAAF ADG one just to be really different.

It's currently up there at the top of the pile but it's a pretty fluid situation, right now. ;)
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« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2016, 07:46:27 AM »
... and why not, build away good Sir

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« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2016, 12:06:07 AM »
Just hit this baby with primer tonight! :)
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Re: Scimitar Down-Under
« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2016, 02:33:16 AM »
Cool - be nice to see one in big scale.

In the old days when I used to gallivant around the country side in M-113 LRVs (Light Reconnaissance Vehicles) I and others used to fantasize about having Scorpions, Scimitars, or similar (or at least something with some combat power)

At about the same time there were probably guys gallivanting around Sailsbury Plain in Scorpions and Scimitars fantasizing about having enough space to stow all their kit.... ;)
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« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2016, 09:02:13 PM »
4-colour camo on. :)
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Re: Scimitar Down-Under
« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2016, 01:04:08 PM »
Cool - be nice to see one in big scale.

In the old days when I used to gallivant around the country side in M-113 LRVs (Light Reconnaissance Vehicles) I and others used to fantasize about having Scorpions, Scimitars, or similar (or at least something with some combat power)

At about the same time there were probably guys gallivanting around Sailsbury Plain in Scorpions and Scimitars fantasizing about having enough space to stow all their kit.... ;)

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« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2016, 11:35:45 AM »
4-colour camo on. :)

Well it is damn good.. I cannot see it :))

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« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2016, 06:09:54 PM »
 ;)
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« Reply #11 on: September 24, 2016, 04:29:05 PM »
For those of you who seem to want photo's, here's where I'm up to now:



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Re: Scimitar Down-Under
« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2016, 03:07:00 AM »
Looking good.
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Re: Scimitar Down-Under
« Reply #13 on: September 25, 2016, 03:08:53 AM »
Nice to finally see your WIP images!  Looks great and just like the real thing it is so tiny compared to other vehicles pulling that mission.  Like an overnight case with tracks instead of a steamer trunk (Bradley, FV432 and M113).  :)
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« Reply #14 on: September 25, 2016, 11:56:58 AM »
Thanks, gents! :)

Waiting on some decals in the mail, atm. The Beast probably won't get a full set of correct RAAF decals but should look OK.
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« Reply #15 on: September 26, 2016, 01:40:16 AM »
While I'm waiting for my decals to arrive I've started building an Academy Warrior MCV.

1st point: The fit is far from great. Every seam, so far, has required putty & filing to get it right.

2nd point: Despite the above, there is enough good detail, including inside the hatches, that I'd like to do the interior.

Problem: The only interior set I know of is made by Accurate Armour, who also make a couple of detail kits for the exterior. Total cost (excluding Postage & Handling) = AU$152.90 (GB£90)

Result: No way am I going to do an interior, I'll look for some figures to slot into the cupola & driver's hatches & leave it at that.

BTW: It's going to be Australian Army but not the regular camo, rather something similar to the camo on the Scimitar, here.
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« Reply #16 on: September 26, 2016, 09:56:41 AM »
Got one of those on the ready to paint pile.
Be interesting to see how yours comes together

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Re: Scimitar Down-Under
« Reply #17 on: September 26, 2016, 11:26:18 AM »
Lovely colours!  :-*
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« Reply #18 on: September 26, 2016, 03:24:14 PM »
In my younger days with the RAF Regt, we used to charge around in Scorpions and Spartans - great fun!  I seem to remember that we held the world record for the fastest production tracked AFV. Some ridiculous speed 60 or 70 mph IIRC. I also seem to remember that the same vehicle later threw a track after one of its drive sprockets disintegrated - fortunately, not at speed!

The Scorpion's 76mm gun was fairly useless for anything other than blowing up or smoking out dug in infantry. It also leaked fumes into the turret something awful. The Scimitar may have been a better option but thanks to the downfall of the Shah of Iran, Scorpion is what we got and beggars can't be chooser!

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« Reply #19 on: September 27, 2016, 09:40:10 AM »
Will be pre-decal gloss coating this today, before I go to work. :)


Had an epiphany moment with the Warrior last night (I think Claymore's builds were sending tendrils of inspiration through my mind) & it will, now, sport a new turret! ;)
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« Reply #20 on: September 27, 2016, 02:29:44 PM »
Awesome, can't wait to see both builds.  :)
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Re: Scimitar Down-Under
« Reply #21 on: September 28, 2016, 07:22:59 PM »
They are a cute little vehicle! Irish army still have a few of them too....

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« Reply #22 on: September 28, 2016, 11:53:56 PM »

The Scorpion's 76mm gun was fairly useless for anything other than blowing up or smoking out dug in infantry.

Nevertheless, you'll have to forgive me if I pass on the chance to sit in a BRDM-2 while you shoot HESH at me...
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« Reply #23 on: September 29, 2016, 02:41:53 AM »
Nevertheless, you'll have to forgive me if I pass on the chance to sit in a BRDM-2 while you shoot HESH at me...

Ha, ha, fair one!  ;)
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« Reply #24 on: September 29, 2016, 01:42:55 PM »

The Scorpion's 76mm gun was fairly useless for anything other than blowing up or smoking out dug in infantry.

Nevertheless, you'll have to forgive me if I pass on the chance to sit in a BRDM-2 while you shoot HESH at me...

It was still useful for HE in the fire support role which is why Australia and Canada both used Scorpion turrets on M-113 and AVGP Cougar respectively.

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« Reply #25 on: October 10, 2016, 07:37:18 PM »
I HATE VINYL TRACKS!!!! :icon_twisted:


Having gotten that off my chest, I shall now announce that this build is almost complete ... Except for the tracks. >:D

Said items will be fitted as-is until I can find something to replace them with. I had them painted up perfectly until I went to put them on & the paint flaked off all over the place. :icon_crap:


Photo's soon! :)
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« Reply #26 on: October 11, 2016, 06:40:57 PM »
OK, here it is - $#!++y tracks & all;

(Remember, this is Whif & units, etc., are included in that!)

The Airfield Defence Guards units of the RAAF are tasked with the protection of RAAF assets, especially airfields both in Australia & overseas.

The 6th Airfield Defence Guards (6ADG) are based in Western Australia, with their Head Quarters at RAAF Pierce. Their Area of Operations includes two Australian territorial off-shore shared civil/military facilities in the Indian Ocean, on Christmas Island & the Cocos (Keeling) Islands. These islands have been important over the decades since the end of WW2 as the front line in the continuing hostile & frequently heated relationship between Australia & Indonesia as the RAAF's static "aircraft carriers". The island/s each have a squadron of interceptor fighters based on them & are operational as refuelling way-points for the RAAF's strike bombers to extend their range further into & beyond western Indonesia. Because of this strategic importance the RAAF have maintained ADG squadrons on each island/s to defend the airfields from attack. The RAM, also, maintain an independent armoured infantry company on Christmas Island but have classified the Cocos (Keeling) Islands as indefensible & refuse to risk Marines to do so.

Illustrated below is a FV107 Scimitar (#48) of 2 Sqn, 6 Airfield Defence Guards (6ADG) based at RAAF Nicholas, Christmas Island, Indian Ocean ca. 2010.


























In the display cabinet with the ASLAV 1A2 for comparisson;




Thanks for watching! :icon_alabanza:


Comments welcomed. :)


PS: The reflectors on the mud-flaps have been painted clear red since these photo's were taken. (The things you only notice in photo's! ::) )
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« Reply #27 on: October 11, 2016, 10:35:34 PM »
Sweet!

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« Reply #28 on: October 12, 2016, 02:33:34 AM »
Wow, that is excellent.  That it is an ADG (my Aussie RAF Regt counterparts) vehicle only makes things ten times better!  The toned down/weathered markings are just the ticket and the whole thing looks right.  :)
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« Reply #29 on: October 12, 2016, 04:17:14 AM »
 :)
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« Reply #30 on: October 12, 2016, 10:29:31 AM »
That looks damn good in those colours - well done!  :) 8)
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« Reply #31 on: October 12, 2016, 03:34:58 PM »
Thank you, gentlemen! :icon_alabanza:
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« Reply #32 on: October 13, 2016, 03:23:51 AM »
That looks damn good in those colours - well done!  :) 8)

Wot 'e said!

Looks nice and menacing with those blue (armored glass?) panels which off-set the camo incredibly well.

Would be thrilled to have 1/10th your talent!

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« Reply #33 on: October 14, 2016, 07:30:08 AM »
Came out very nice and a terrific finish as well.

Being ex Army I could have all sorts of dirisive inter-service comments about the suitability of ADGies in AFV's. You know,  Fences getting knocked down, only driving them during daylight hours on dry days, lack of airconditioning ;)

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« Reply #34 on: October 14, 2016, 08:36:35 AM »
Thanks, both Brians! :icon_alabanza:

Being ex Army I could have all sorts of dirisive inter-service comments about the suitability of ADGies in AFV's. You know,  Fences getting knocked down, only driving them during daylight hours on dry days, lack of airconditioning ;)

 ;D ;D ;D

I've been imagining it with a Marine knocking on the top saying "Come on out, guys!!" & a muffled "No thanks, the air-conditioner works fine!" from within ... Me being ex-Navy (& Army, sorta).
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« Reply #35 on: October 14, 2016, 11:02:00 AM »
Came out very nice and a terrific finish as well.

Being ex Army I could have all sorts of dirisive inter-service comments about the suitability of ADGies in AFV's. You know,  Fences getting knocked down, only driving them during daylight hours on dry days, lack of airconditioning ;)

My Ex brother in law was a RAAF Vehicle Mechanic who was loaned to Army 161 Reconnaissance Squadron to maintain their ground vehicles. Being part of 1 Brigade he was given the opportunity for a yippee drive of a 1 Armd Regt Leopard 1 and promptly mowed down a substantial length of fence before anyone could get him to stop.  Of course this occurred just as the Brigadier commanding 1 Bde walked around the corner, he stopped dead and was watching intently, obviously expecting to see a young RAAC trooper be torn a new one, but instead sees a middle aged RAAF Corporal sheepishly emerge from the drivers hatch.  Without a word he turned and stalked off.

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« Reply #36 on: October 14, 2016, 12:23:20 PM »
There was probably a new Standing Order issued the next day re: RAAF or other non-authorised personnel not to being permitted to drive his tanks. ;D
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« Reply #37 on: October 14, 2016, 03:04:24 PM »
There was probably a new Standing Order issued the next day re: RAAF or other non-authorised personnel not to being permitted to drive his tanks. ;D

I think they just put a blanket ban on under achieving, incompetent, twits driving tanks full stop. ;)

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« Reply #38 on: October 15, 2016, 10:03:59 PM »
Way back in the early 1980s, on one 9 Brigade exercise at Cultana someone from 3/9 SAMR drove his M113 along a fence for about 2 km before he realised he was doing it.  Of course, it meant a re-fencing job for 3 Eng. Sqn. after the exercise.    Nearly as bad was the command from on high that in future, vehicle commanders were to check to see where their drivers were driving, before they drove there...   ;)
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« Reply #39 on: October 16, 2016, 12:33:44 AM »
What many don't realise is AFV drivers have stuff all visibility, you need to get the feel of where the vehicles extremities are in relation to where your body is but even then you are totally reliant on direction from the vehicle commander or a dismounted guide. 

When I was an M-113 driver I enjoyed driving for senior Corporals or Sergeants, while some senior Lieutenants were ok too, recently qualified Troop Leaders were difficult because they were still coming to grips with how to command the troop as well as their vehicle but the worst were the newly qualified Lance Corporals who had been experienced drivers.  The shiny new lance jacks know all about driving but not about commanding and often would stand in their turrets with a hand gripping each of the two lifting eyes on the turret top and instead of using the intercom to tell the driver to change direction, follow the lead vehicle, slow down, speed up, or stop, they would be unconsciously trying to steer the vehicle as if the lifting eyes were tillers, leaving the driver completely oblivious to their wishes.

I spent much of one particular exercise trying to anticipate the needs of such a crew commander back in the 90s, very hard when he had my intercom isolated from the troop net, if I had been able to hear what he was being ordered to do I may have had a chance.  Instead I'd hear sweet FA, do my best guess then have him yelling over the intercom when I guessed wrong, even got taken aside by the troop corporal (my crewies best mate and until two weeks earlier his crew commander when he was driving) and dressed down for making his mate look bad, it may have been intimidating but for the fact he was a 60kg 169cm twerp.  It got to the point that I had decided to pull this pin after the ex until the SSM took my crew commander aside and had a D&M with him, from then on he had me listening to the troop net, he would point out reference points, i.e. to the left of tree on crest 300m etc. maintain pace with leader, line abreast with leader etc.  He was still far from the best but he was learning and getting better, funny though, when we f'd up it was my fault, when we got it down pat and performed well it was all him, that's life I suppose, at least the next ex I was the sergeants driver and credit was shared resulting in a good exercise eval.

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Re: Scimitar Down-Under - Finished (pics pg.2)
« Reply #40 on: October 16, 2016, 07:40:57 PM »
That does look sweet! Lovely job Sir

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« Reply #41 on: October 17, 2016, 04:01:39 AM »
That does look sweet! Lovely job Sir

Yhanks, mate! :)

... funny though, when we f'd up it was my fault, when we got it down pat and performed well it was all him, that's life I suppose ...

Yup! Especially when your senior person (mil or civ) is new & unsure of their role &/or insecure ... or totally incompetent.
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Re: Scimitar Down-Under - Finished (pics pg.2)
« Reply #42 on: October 17, 2016, 07:44:26 AM »
Not being familiar with Scimitar I looked it up and reviewed.
This a fine Scimitar model.  A right on build. :)

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« Reply #43 on: October 17, 2016, 05:57:45 PM »
Thanks, Bill! :)
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