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Re: Lightnings and Mustangs: new civilian ones
« Reply #25 on: June 15, 2016, 11:30:36 AM »
I always wondered why the Combo derivative of the AICA-38D was coded BdB-38 but I know why now! Thanks!
(Below are the BdB-38 with cargo rear pod, without rear pod, and in twin-boom version BdB-38B)
Brian, you are now part of the Lightning History (at the temporary end of my Web site http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/#Sit )

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Re: Lightnings and Mustangs: new civilian ones
« Reply #26 on: June 15, 2016, 05:54:25 PM »
That's even better looking than I imagined, Tophe!

I like how the longer fuselage balances the wingspan and engines. Your design is very appealing!

Thank you for the additional permutations of this concept, mon ami! Your posts always make my day!

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Re: Lightnings and Mustangs: new civilian ones
« Reply #27 on: June 16, 2016, 11:15:33 PM »
Thanks a lot Brian!

And of course, there were also double-deck airliners in the Mustang family:

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Re: Lightnings and Mustangs: new civilian ones
« Reply #28 on: June 17, 2016, 06:00:36 AM »
That's quite pleasing to the eye, mon ami!

There's just something about the push-pull configuration that always grabs my attention. Adding that to the double-decker fuselage is inspired thinking. To me, those two elements harmonize wonderfully.

I may have to build this, or something like it. I have the parts (well, similar parts)...

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Re: Lightnings and Mustangs: new civilian ones
« Reply #29 on: June 18, 2016, 12:07:19 PM »
Thanks again, Brian!

Of course, I could not resist going from Mustanliner to Twin-Mustanliner... but this is serious, for economic transport: the Mustanliner with 32 rows of seats had room for 128 passengers (4 per row), the Double-Mustanliner was for 256 passengers (4 per row X 2 fuselages) and the Twin-Mustanliner : 384 passengers (6 per row X 2 fuselages):

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Re: Lightnings and Mustangs: new civilian ones
« Reply #30 on: June 18, 2016, 05:02:14 PM »
That's quite something,love it !
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Re: Lightnings and Mustangs: new civilian ones
« Reply #31 on: June 18, 2016, 06:01:58 PM »
Thanks!
While, uh... the Twin-Mustanliner was not the end of the story: the Quad-Mustanliner was far bigger, with 12 V-3420 engines and 768 passengers... (decades before the Boeing 747 was designed):

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Re: Lightnings and Mustangs: new civilian ones
« Reply #32 on: June 19, 2016, 12:51:19 AM »
with 12 V-3420 engines
This equals 24 "V-1710" engines somehow...

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Re: Lightnings and Mustangs: new civilian ones
« Reply #33 on: June 19, 2016, 05:55:01 AM »
Twin Mustanliner can go on floats,something like Savoia Marchetti SM-55...will look great
« Last Edit: June 19, 2016, 05:56:34 AM by AXOR »
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Re: Lightnings and Mustangs: new civilian ones
« Reply #34 on: June 19, 2016, 04:06:59 PM »
Thanks!

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Re: Lightnings and Mustangs: new civilian ones
« Reply #35 on: June 19, 2016, 04:49:15 PM »
impressive !

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Re: Lightnings and Mustangs: new civilian ones
« Reply #36 on: June 19, 2016, 09:50:37 PM »
Well,I thank you Cristophe!
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Re: Lightnings and Mustangs: new civilian ones
« Reply #37 on: June 23, 2016, 01:50:49 AM »
Thanks to YOU dreamer AXOR!

And thanks also for your topic "Racers" http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=6427.0 that inspired me:
I have no talent about colours but I may invent shapes, like this 8,000hp Lightning racer, having less drag than a 1,500 hp SAAB J.21

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Re: Lightnings and Mustangs: new civilian ones
« Reply #38 on: June 24, 2016, 12:20:25 AM »
As I make usually my Lightning 3 by 3, here is such a bunch of Lightning racers:

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Re: Lightnings and Mustangs: new civilian ones
« Reply #39 on: June 24, 2016, 01:12:26 PM »
A less small view:

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Re: Lightnings and Mustangs: new civilian ones
« Reply #40 on: June 25, 2016, 07:15:03 AM »
 :-* me likey  :-*
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Re: Lightnings and Mustangs: new civilian ones
« Reply #41 on: June 25, 2016, 06:00:02 PM »
Thanks!
The Mustang FTB2 racer (aka Ren-51D) featured a 6,000hp Twin-Griffon central engine. Maximum speed over 980km/h.

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Re: Lightnings and Mustangs: new civilian ones
« Reply #42 on: June 25, 2016, 06:51:22 PM »
And as Reno racers don't need high altitude ability nor dogfight maneuvering, they could discard tail and big span:

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Re: Lightnings and Mustangs: new civilian ones
« Reply #43 on: June 26, 2016, 05:29:16 PM »
The first agricultural Lightning, for a start:
There were also agricultural Mustangs (Farmstangs), of course:

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Re: Lightnings and Mustangs: new civilian ones
« Reply #44 on: July 11, 2016, 02:32:50 AM »
In 1939 the Lighner was an old-looking airliner, then the Regiolighner was faster and smaller, and at last the Transcontilighner featured a big range:

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Re: Lightnings and Mustangs: new civilian ones
« Reply #45 on: July 12, 2016, 03:41:03 PM »
I especially like the one with two sets of wings, mon ami!

Sure looks every bit the long-range airliner! Nice work!

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Re: Lightnings and Mustangs: new civilian ones
« Reply #46 on: July 14, 2016, 05:00:25 PM »
Dear friend, I feel honoured by such wonderful words  :), and... ahem, at the same time I feel disapproved  :( : I presented a tandem wing thingy, as a completely crazy aircraft and your words sound as "no, not crazy but perfect". So, I must go one step further into craziness: very long range Intercontilighner:

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Re: Lightnings and Mustangs: new civilian ones
« Reply #47 on: July 14, 2016, 06:19:26 PM »
I like this one even better than the last one, mon ami!

More wings must equal more range!

This one is très elegante!

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Re: Lightnings and Mustangs: new civilian ones
« Reply #48 on: July 14, 2016, 06:30:30 PM »
haw... your answer Brian means I failed to build the crazy one that I wanted, let me go one step further so... or three steps further...

The Lockheed Noviplane II was very different from the Caproni Noviplano: it featured 3 separate decks with external ladders... and three piloting cokpits for an unknown reason... uh, still "realist"? uh?

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Re: Lightnings and Mustangs: new civilian ones
« Reply #49 on: July 15, 2016, 02:59:41 AM »
Your various P-38 based passenger planes are inspiring for kitbash concepts !