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P-38 killers
« on: March 31, 2016, 12:25:58 PM »
Just one day remaining and I will post (the result of my painful thoughts).

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Re: P-38 killers
« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2016, 01:33:42 AM »
This I can't wait to see!

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Re: P-38 killers
« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2016, 11:40:42 AM »
Now is April 1st, Paris Time (and Greenwich?) even if Seattle and Honolulu may still be in March, let's go...

Gunship-Lightning murderers
   Being myself a naïve (stupid?) pacifist, I have considered (as dear Weaver suggested) to draw Non-Lethal-GunShips, firing tennis balls on the shoulders of angry protesters/rioters. But at last I prefer facing my own contradiction: as I love aircraft (and more Spitfire than Dakota, more YF-16 than B.747) I tend to love killing gun-platforms… This forum’s gunship focus is a good occasion to admit it, alas. Here is my dear twin-boom P-38 Lightning equipped with 16 heavy guns, to mass murder a Vietnamese peaceful village classified as suspect (of not loving our civilization, all full of love and freedom as proven here…). :( :icon_sueno: :icon_crap: :-\

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Re: P-38 killers
« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2016, 11:43:53 AM »
With pivoting guns, I think only 8 turrest would be installed, with the fuselage all full of bullets, to murder even more/"better":

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Re: P-38 killers
« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2016, 11:46:08 AM »
And with a touch of asymmetry, a circle of fire would be possible "thanks to" this rotating Lightning (still with 8 guns):
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Re: P-38 killers
« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2016, 10:27:11 PM »
The asymetric one is interesting Tophe: getting arcs of fire past wing-mounted engines/stores is one of the problems gunship designers have. It's one reason I think the An-72 with it's overwing engines would be highly suitable.
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Re: P-38 killers
« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2016, 11:39:34 PM »
Engines above the wing for a free space below? Yes, it is very possible, even without jets. Is this the A-38W (for Weaver) or A-38A-72 (for An-72)?

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Re: P-38 killers
« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2016, 04:09:08 AM »
Tophe, maybe just make a gunship with a bunch of these:

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Re: P-38 killers
« Reply #8 on: April 02, 2016, 05:40:55 AM »
Tophe, maybe just make a gunship with a bunch of these:


 ;D

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Re: P-38 killers
« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2016, 10:57:33 AM »
Engines above the wing for a free space below? Yes, it is very possible, even without jets. Is this the A-38W (for Weaver) or A-38A-72 (for An-72)?

Oh nice one! That's given me an idea for something else as well...  ;)
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Re: P-38 killers
« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2016, 02:24:26 PM »
Thanks to all !
And here is the Water-Baloon-Gun-Ship-38, thanks again to GTX !

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Re: P-38 killers
« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2016, 03:23:20 AM »
 :)

Maybe it could be flown by International Clown Rescue - an elite force of highly trained clowns that are sent to the world's trouble spots to make everyone stop being so stupid and to simply laugh at themselves:

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Re: P-38 killers
« Reply #12 on: April 03, 2016, 11:21:47 AM »
 ;) Thanks for this smile !  :icon_music:

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Re: P-38 killers
« Reply #13 on: April 03, 2016, 05:20:57 PM »
When I was a teenager, in the late 1970s, I had the (justified) reputation to be a lover of model kits, BUT I was very afraid that someone offers me someday a kit of tank killing machine instead of the bird-like aircraft that I loved...
What would have I done if that had happened?: a tank-aircraft mix, maybe - and for aerodynamic reasons, the gun cannot be pointed forward, so sidewards would have made it a gunship... unpleasant but possibly built, if... (what-if...):

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Re: P-38 killers
« Reply #14 on: April 03, 2016, 09:38:50 PM »
Being 51% tank and 49% airplane (instead of 49% and 51%) would have given this horror:

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Re: P-38 killers
« Reply #15 on: April 03, 2016, 10:41:56 PM »
Ahem, the aircraft above had no propeller nor jet engine, and seems a glider or sailplane (like the Antonov An-KT?), but this was mainly that I forgot to replace the propeller that was in the nose. Does this qualify as a gunship anyway? The "true" one could have been this:

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Re: P-38 killers
« Reply #16 on: April 08, 2016, 05:32:44 PM »
I suddenly realize something obvious (I was such a fool not thinking about it): no need of firing/killing guns, I may invent Lightning with turrets for either guns in the military role or tourists in civilian role...:

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Re: P-38 killers
« Reply #17 on: April 09, 2016, 01:25:06 AM »
Of course (?), there was a canard version of it:

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Re: P-38 killers
« Reply #18 on: April 09, 2016, 03:04:38 AM »
The tourists could be issued with photo-sniper-style cameras, like the ones used by non-violent hunters which take a picture with a cross-wire superimposed on it, so they could prove what they'd peacefully 'straffed'. Extra points for nudist private sunbathers.... >:D
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Re: P-38 killers
« Reply #19 on: April 09, 2016, 11:00:47 AM »
 ;) (thanks for this wise comment, with a funny touch of non-lethal evil  >:D :D )!

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Re: P-38 killers
« Reply #20 on: April 16, 2016, 03:29:00 PM »
The canard Lightning XCA-38 had an airliner derivative, outscope here, but also a tourism/gunship derivative which is good (or bad) for here >:D ...

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Re: P-38 killers
« Reply #21 on: April 16, 2016, 04:59:03 PM »
The pusher versions were almost the same, but this was rather different for the gunship part of the family:

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Re: P-38 killers
« Reply #22 on: April 17, 2016, 11:47:20 PM »
I don't know if a gunship pod already existed, otherwise I have invented it (for the tourism civilian version, I prefer :( ):

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Re: P-38 killers
« Reply #23 on: April 22, 2016, 06:51:48 PM »
Lightning without lateral tractor engines (for no obstruction to tourist view or gun shooting):

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Re: P-38 killers
« Reply #24 on: April 22, 2016, 09:42:30 PM »
On the opposite, a rear post may have lateral appendices: