Author Topic: Arado Ar-234 Blitz and Heinkel He-343 Ideas & Inspiration  (Read 22588 times)

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Re: Arado Ar-234 Blitz and Heinkel He-343 Ideas & Inspiration
« Reply #25 on: March 21, 2014, 12:28:03 PM »
Model-wise, the Ar-234 family is well represented by the Dragon offerings in 1/72 and so-so in 1/48 (Hobbycraft and Hasegawa).
The He-343 is represented by a pretty nice AirModel 1/72 vac (with resin bits) and a Special Hobby 1/72 resin kit.

I don't know who made this, but it's beautiful; it's one of my favorite whiffs: The Aeroflot "Octa" in 1/144 made from a 1/72?  Ar 234C:

http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,5054.msg63350.html#msg63350

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Re: Arado Ar-234 Blitz and Heinkel He-343 Ideas & Inspiration
« Reply #26 on: March 21, 2014, 01:32:11 PM »
nice lookin plane ya got there BG!
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Re: Arado Ar-234 Blitz and Heinkel He-343 Ideas & Inspiration
« Reply #27 on: March 21, 2014, 01:40:37 PM »
Yes - well represented in various versions :)
Vintage 1/72 Lindberg 234 is nose of Slowy Jet.  Cross section with fuselage was good match.
Lindberg kits are around too.  Of course not quality of current kits.

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Re: Arado Ar-234 Blitz and Heinkel He-343 Ideas & Inspiration
« Reply #28 on: March 21, 2014, 06:00:24 PM »
Oh YES! That  looks brilliant!  :)

It does indeed. And you've kept the kitbashing 'in the family'  :)  Will this be an Ar-240 style taildragger?

This one will not be but I have three more Ar 234's mash-ups of which two will be tail draggers. Once I get organized, I will post pictures of what they should look like.
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Re: Arado Ar-234 Blitz and Heinkel He-343 Ideas & Inspiration
« Reply #29 on: April 05, 2014, 04:46:01 AM »
Random Idea:  Post War Ar-234 in Soviet Service
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Re: Arado Ar-234 Blitz and Heinkel He-343 Ideas & Inspiration
« Reply #30 on: April 05, 2014, 05:26:01 AM »
... with Derwents or Nenes?

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Re: Arado Ar-234 Blitz and Heinkel He-343 Ideas & Inspiration
« Reply #31 on: April 05, 2014, 05:35:26 AM »
I was originally thinking simply Klimov RD-10s (i.e. Jumo 004s).  Basically, a squadron or two manufactured from remaining airframes or even new built and put into service immediately after WWII.  Maybe serving for a couple of years at most alongside fighters such as the MiG-9 and Yak-15.
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Re: Arado Ar-234 Blitz and Heinkel He-343 Ideas & Inspiration
« Reply #32 on: April 05, 2014, 11:34:21 AM »
Looks really good, how about Turkish attack bomber version, built by Czech and used in Korea, or an Israeli version of same?

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Re: Arado Ar-234 Blitz and Heinkel He-343 Ideas & Inspiration
« Reply #33 on: March 29, 2015, 12:44:42 AM »
How about the Egyptions flying 234s re-engined with Nenes, in the May, 1948 conflict, with the Israelis flying captured He162s?

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Re: Arado Ar-234 Blitz and Heinkel He-343 Ideas & Inspiration
« Reply #34 on: April 01, 2015, 01:10:50 AM »
after reading a topic on a scale-o-rama airliner version of an Me262 over on the other forum, i remembered a project i was working on on paper (and still am) of a 1/72 airliner version of a 1/48 scale Ar234, would work better with a 1/32 version.

at first the plan was to build a propellor driven version, powered by 2 Junkers Jumo.022 turboprop engines.
but in this rough sketch, i decided to go with 4 Heinkel HeS.011 jet engines. the nose/cockpit section needs work, but this would be the general layout plan.

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Re: Arado Ar-234 Blitz and Heinkel He-343 Ideas & Inspiration
« Reply #35 on: April 01, 2015, 02:42:11 AM »
Where do you put the fuel?  Note this cutaway drawing to illustrate what I mean:

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Re: Arado Ar-234 Blitz and Heinkel He-343 Ideas & Inspiration
« Reply #36 on: April 01, 2015, 03:12:50 AM »
Working in 1/32 gives a lot more room to play with, and fictional wing tankage would be doable.
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Re: Arado Ar-234 Blitz and Heinkel He-343 Ideas & Inspiration
« Reply #37 on: April 01, 2015, 04:12:07 AM »
i was thinking of using tanks in the wings, and use the outer buldges for the main landing gear. i would also use a shoter but beefed up nosewheel. i could also put a belly tank in it, similar to the EE Lightning  8)
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Re: Arado Ar-234 Blitz and Heinkel He-343 Ideas & Inspiration
« Reply #38 on: April 01, 2015, 06:52:54 AM »
Geeeee,,, looked on Ebay and found there is a 1/32 kit.
Was new to me.  Put that on nice-to-have list for 1/72 build.
I calculate approx 93ft 4in as 1/72.  Near B-29 length of 99ft.
Greg --- is 62ft 3in as 1/48.  You can build bigger badder Luft 46 version.
« Last Edit: April 01, 2015, 08:05:15 AM by finsrin »

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Re: Arado Ar-234 Blitz and Heinkel He-343 Ideas & Inspiration
« Reply #39 on: January 20, 2016, 05:52:33 AM »


This close up shot of an early Heinkel He 111 and the open spinner made my brain think it was a jet at first. It makes one think about the viability of a high-wing jet He 111.

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Re: Arado Ar-234 Blitz and Heinkel He-343 Ideas & Inspiration
« Reply #40 on: January 23, 2016, 05:20:16 AM »
I see what you mean!  :icon_surprised:
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Re: Arado Ar-234 Blitz and Heinkel He-343 Ideas & Inspiration
« Reply #41 on: January 23, 2016, 05:45:31 AM »
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Re: Arado Ar-234 Blitz and Heinkel He-343 Ideas & Inspiration
« Reply #42 on: February 10, 2016, 02:33:25 AM »
Where do you put the fuel?  Note this cutaway drawing to illustrate what I mean:

In the passenger's suit cases  >:D

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Re: Arado Ar-234 Blitz and Heinkel He-343 Ideas & Inspiration
« Reply #43 on: June 06, 2019, 01:44:17 AM »
A past / future contribution. Started this in 2012.

With Ar-240 wings:






Did this get finished?
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Re: Arado Ar-234 Blitz and Heinkel He-343 Ideas & Inspiration
« Reply #44 on: December 28, 2022, 01:22:33 AM »
Ar-234P with Ho-229 wings and engines.



... subtle differences... Not sure yet.

NOTE UPDATE! to move downwards tail plane
« Last Edit: December 28, 2022, 01:50:46 PM by ysi_maniac »

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Re: Arado Ar-234 Blitz and Heinkel He-343 Ideas & Inspiration
« Reply #45 on: December 28, 2022, 03:53:33 AM »
  :smiley:  8)