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Re: Crop duster aircraft ideas and inspiration
« Reply #25 on: July 12, 2015, 03:26:19 AM »
From the same website:

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Re: Crop duster aircraft ideas and inspiration
« Reply #26 on: August 14, 2015, 11:26:36 PM »
I just started wondering how an Airacobra or Kingcobra would play out as a cropduster.

Both were noted for very good performance down low and once you strip out the nose cannon and associated assemblies ahead of the cockpit, there'd be plent oyf room for a hopper I'd think.
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Re: Crop duster aircraft ideas and inspiration
« Reply #27 on: August 15, 2015, 03:48:56 AM »
Interesting idea
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Re: Crop duster aircraft ideas and inspiration
« Reply #28 on: March 07, 2023, 05:18:30 AM »
If they won't give Ukraine F-16s etc, maybe Ag-aircraft?

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Re: Crop duster aircraft ideas and inspiration
« Reply #29 on: March 07, 2023, 10:46:21 AM »
Ooo ... those torpedo carriers are great!  :smiley:
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Re: Crop duster aircraft ideas and inspiration
« Reply #30 on: March 07, 2023, 01:57:03 PM »
A "What if" from real life. The Z-37TM was a one-off prototype to test the Z-37T for suitability for military work.

The project wasn't successful, but the prototype is still with us:





KP Models even took care of giving us the opportunity to build one straight from the box (Not the most accurate of kits, but the only game in town for a Z-37T as far as I know):
https://www.kovozavody.cz/produkt/z-37tm-turbo-military/
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Re: Crop duster aircraft ideas and inspiration
« Reply #31 on: March 08, 2023, 02:21:32 AM »
If they won't give Ukraine F-16s etc, maybe Ag-aircraft?

I am sure they would like some L3Harris Sky Wardens but I also fear such aircraft would not last more than a few minutes on a modern battlefield.

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Re: Crop duster aircraft ideas and inspiration
« Reply #32 on: March 08, 2023, 06:49:37 AM »
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Re: Crop duster aircraft ideas and inspiration
« Reply #33 on: March 09, 2023, 09:51:54 AM »
A "What if" from real life. The Z-37TM was a one-off prototype to test the Z-37T for suitability for military work.

<...>

This, but on floats!  8)

Have heard some not so pleasing things about the KP Z-37s, but much good about Eduard's effort. So may get both and nick the engine section and winglets from the KP kit and put them on an Eduard Bumblebee.

I am sure they would like some L3Harris Sky Wardens but I also fear such aircraft would not last more than a few minutes on a modern battlefield.



Yeah, its survivability in this particular environment doesn't seem great. About the only combat use I could see is hunting Shahed-136 flying bombs. With the Shahed's very low cruising speed (you could probably intercept them with a Mi-24), a prop aircraft may actually have an edge over a jet. Then fling APKWS at them from a safe distance.
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Re: Crop duster aircraft ideas and inspiration
« Reply #34 on: March 10, 2023, 04:53:06 AM »
A "What if" from real life. The Z-37TM was a one-off prototype to test the Z-37T for suitability for military work.

<...>

This, but on floats!  8)

Have heard some not so pleasing things about the KP Z-37s, but much good about Eduard's effort. So may get both and nick the engine section and winglets from the KP kit and put them on an Eduard Bumblebee.


Yes, the KP kits aren't grand. They had the feel of having been rushed onto the market (to beat Eduard's kit presumably). The most obvious oversight was that they didn't mold the  cockpit canopy to capture the prominent buldged side windows of the real thing. They also cut corners in other ways, but the visibility of it depends on the kit and the version it represents.

I'm not sure I'd trust KP kits to be accurate in scale either, their recent 1/72 Cessna 180 kit has come in for a fair amount of criticism for being underscale.

If you wanted to turn Eduard's Z-37 into a Z-37T (hoping it and the KP kit match up in scale and proportions) you'll definitely need the turbo nose and winglets. You'll also need the tail fin as the Z-37T has a very prominent extension of the fin leading edge.

There is also some sort of fairing on the top of the Z-37T cockpit canopy that is absent on other variants.

I have read in some places that the Z-37T has a longer wingspan than the Z-37A, but I can't find anything that says if that's just down to the winglets or if there's more to it.

I'm also told that the rear fuselage got some sort of extension when the Z-37T was designed, but I can't find any information to confirm that.

As for floats, I don't know if you've seen this page, but there are a few images of a Z-37A on floats that may inspire you:
https://www.letadlanaplatne.cz/en/film-planes/civilian-aircraft/agricultural-machinery/zlin-z-37-bumblebee/

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Re: Crop duster aircraft ideas and inspiration
« Reply #35 on: March 13, 2023, 01:29:20 PM »
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Re: Crop duster aircraft ideas and inspiration
« Reply #36 on: March 13, 2023, 10:59:22 PM »
I'm sure they had a reason for designing them this way.

<...> As for floats, I don't know if you've seen this page, but there are a few images of a Z-37A on floats that may inspire you:
https://www.letadlanaplatne.cz/en/film-planes/civilian-aircraft/agricultural-machinery/zlin-z-37-bumblebee/

Ooh, those are lovely!  :-*
Thanks for the heads-up re the fin.
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Re: Crop duster aircraft ideas and inspiration
« Reply #37 on: March 14, 2023, 02:25:02 AM »
Lockheed from a NASA report.

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Re: Crop duster aircraft ideas and inspiration
« Reply #38 on: March 14, 2023, 08:07:24 AM »
There is also some sort of fairing on the top of the Z-37T cockpit canopy that is absent on other variants.

I have read in some places that the Z-37T has a longer wingspan than the Z-37A, but I can't find anything that says if that's just down to the winglets or if there's more to it.

I'm also told that the rear fuselage got some sort of extension when the Z-37T was designed, but I can't find any information to confirm that.

Looks like that fairing over the cockpit is an air vent to cool the pilot.
Plans show that the fuselage is longer.
Basic Let-37 is 8.55m long - Let-37T is 10.46m long.
Wings are12.22m & 13.63m so maybe just the wing-lets add span.