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Re: 1/35th FSBR - Fire Support Boat, Riverine
« Reply #75 on: June 13, 2015, 03:55:06 AM »

PS: I'm still hoping an Admin will move this to "Physical Models"; "Sea" for me, please. :)

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Re: 1/35th FSBR - Fire Support Boat, Riverine
« Reply #76 on: June 13, 2015, 07:47:23 AM »
Thanks, Greg! :)
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Re: 1/35th FSBR - Fire Support Boat, Riverine
« Reply #77 on: June 14, 2015, 09:11:14 PM »
Great update on the progress of this one.  I can't wait to see the next one.  This puts my Floaty entry to shame, but also gives me inspiration and ideas for the next time I go boat building.

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Re: 1/35th FSBR - Fire Support Boat, Riverine
« Reply #78 on: June 15, 2015, 01:41:31 AM »
WOW !!  Looking really good !!
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Re: 1/35th FSBR - Fire Support Boat, Riverine
« Reply #79 on: June 15, 2015, 01:56:02 AM »
Coming along nicely! The fwd weapons station looks awesome, too. Snowy looks good.

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Re: 1/35th FSBR - Fire Support Boat, Riverine
« Reply #80 on: June 15, 2015, 08:36:32 AM »
Thank you, gentlemen! :icon_alabanza:

@ LemonJello: No it doesn't, yours was the inspiration & is the better constructed, & I'm glad to have returned the favour of inspiration.

I'm having to repaint the turrets & their weapons as I tried to cheat & used Tamiya rattle-can OD. After shaking the can for over 5 minutes the initial spray had some red-brown colour sitting on the surface (can was over 3 years old). As it was, not too bad, I could use it as weathering/dust but after I sprayed Tamiya Flat Clear over it almost the whole thing went red-brown! :o

So, I've sprayed a thin coat of Tamiya White Primer over everything & will be getting out the airbrush next weekend & spraying them with Mig acrylic US Olive Drab Post WW2 (FS24087), as was my original plan. ???

In case you haven't figure it, it's at about this stage that I have to start fighting my impatience to get the job done (which is why my finishes suffer). Not because I don't like painting & weathering, I actually do, but because I get impatient to see the finished product sitting in front of me. :-\
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Re: 1/35th FSBR - Fire Support Boat, Riverine
« Reply #81 on: June 15, 2015, 11:37:28 AM »
I know the feeling well!

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Re: 1/35th FSBR - Fire Support Boat, Riverine
« Reply #82 on: June 15, 2015, 07:06:35 PM »
I too find myself in similar straits when a project nears the end.  I'm either 1) in a hurry to get it wrapped up so I can see the final product, or 2) afraid of messing up, so the project languishes on the bench awaiting those final steps. 

Just have to tell myself it'll turn out fine, and if there are issues, well just find a way to correct them.

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Re: 1/35th FSBR - Fire Support Boat, Riverine
« Reply #83 on: June 30, 2015, 07:19:10 AM »
Progress has all but stopped on this due to cold, wet weather not being conducive to painting.

However, I'm about to do some more over the next couple of days.

A quick question for ideas ... or, more accurately, the final decision between ideas.

I am tossing up between 3 options for the waterline & below;

Opt. 1 - all Black.

Opt. 2 - all Hull Red

Opt. 3 - Hull Red with a Black plimsol line at the top (4" full-size = 3mm in scale)


Just call out your preferences, I wont do a poll, & I need them by tomorrow morning at the latest (it's 0845hrs, Tuesday 30 June, here, now).


Thanks guys! :)
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Re: 1/35th FSBR - Fire Support Boat, Riverine
« Reply #84 on: June 30, 2015, 07:59:10 AM »
This is a bit of deja vu here.. I went through the same think when I was building a Pibber.. they are all very valid and depended on manufacture date, refits etc etc.

I eventually went the red colour as it gave a nice contrast as I displayed the boat at speed planing across the water.


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Re: 1/35th FSBR - Fire Support Boat, Riverine
« Reply #85 on: June 30, 2015, 08:30:59 AM »
You can get an idea of what you want to do regarding the paint scheme for your small combatant craft by checking out the slightly out of date, yet still pertinent NSTM (Naval Ships' Technical Manuals) for Boats and Small Craft, 1998, Chapter 583 (1.75 MB pdf document file) two sections go into detail on maintenance and painting of steel hull and fiberglass hull small craft/boats. 

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Re: 1/35th FSBR - Fire Support Boat, Riverine
« Reply #86 on: June 30, 2015, 05:17:39 PM »
Not sure that helps me make my decision ??? but thanks, guys! :)
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Re: 1/35th FSBR - Fire Support Boat, Riverine
« Reply #87 on: June 30, 2015, 09:08:46 PM »
OK, decision made early - Opt. 3 it is!

Already masked up to begin this tomorrow morning, so I'm not changing my mind. ;)
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Re: 1/35th FSBR - Fire Support Boat, Riverine
« Reply #88 on: June 30, 2015, 10:14:43 PM »
Truthfully, all your options sounded good.  I went with a Tamiya black green for my lower hull mainly because it was sitting on the shelf and I wanted to do something a little different.

Can't wait to see this one with some paint on her.

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Re: 1/35th FSBR - Fire Support Boat, Riverine
« Reply #89 on: July 01, 2015, 09:28:08 AM »
Thanks, LJ! :)

Primary hull colour down. Didn't go with pure Hull Red, went a 1:1 mix of XF-9 Hull Red & XF-7 Flat Red (Tamiya colours).

Looks good, even if I do say so myself. :D
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Re: 1/35th FSBR - Fire Support Boat, Riverine
« Reply #90 on: July 01, 2015, 12:43:13 PM »
Well . . . . . where's the pic Wombat? ;)
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Re: 1/35th FSBR - Fire Support Boat, Riverine
« Reply #91 on: July 01, 2015, 01:55:55 PM »
Coming! Don't rush me! ;)
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Re: 1/35th FSBR - Fire Support Boat, Riverine
« Reply #92 on: July 01, 2015, 06:22:40 PM »
OK, here are a few quick pic's of what happened today.

Red hull, black plimsol line, paint came away, I liked the look & I worked with it.

I'll paint over some of the stripped areas but some will get rust streaks 1st, while other bits will stay as is & get less developed rusting. This way I end up with old scrapes painted over & new scrapes not yet dealt with. Makes it look like a working boat.

There are, also, some faults with my painting (unpainted bits between the red & the black) which I'll fix up one way or another.

I'll try to take better pic's later.


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Re: 1/35th FSBR - Fire Support Boat, Riverine
« Reply #93 on: July 01, 2015, 08:06:20 PM »
Love it! The weathering will just be icing on this "cake" of awesome!

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Re: 1/35th FSBR - Fire Support Boat, Riverine
« Reply #94 on: July 01, 2015, 09:25:45 PM »
Thanks, LJ! :)
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Re: 1/35th FSBR - Fire Support Boat, Riverine
« Reply #95 on: July 01, 2015, 11:13:57 PM »
Very nice.  :)

BTW the line is called a boot stripe, Plimsoll Lines are the loading marks.




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Re: 1/35th FSBR - Fire Support Boat, Riverine
« Reply #96 on: July 01, 2015, 11:56:53 PM »
Thanks, Jon! :)

I was always under the impression that the boot line was marked at the mean load depth & was called the Plimsoll line. Knew the other markings were for various conditions but thought they were more modern & didn't realise they were the actual Plimsoll lines.

Learn something new every day! :D
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Re: 1/35th FSBR - Fire Support Boat, Riverine
« Reply #97 on: July 08, 2015, 08:48:30 PM »
I was putting the turrets together today ( Birthday treat for myself ;) ) when I discovered a little problem - the Vulcan doesn't depress far enough! :o

So, I'm in the process of modifying the set-up & it seems I'm on the right track. :)

Slowly (Oh, so slowly!) coming together! :))
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Re: 1/35th FSBR - Fire Support Boat, Riverine
« Reply #98 on: July 08, 2015, 11:48:30 PM »
Looking at he bow of boat and I keep imagining what it would look like with a small bow ramp where the two inside halves of the hull meet up.  Something about the size of the ramp from the Higgins' LCP(R) or UDT Boat in design. 

Maybe for your next project then?  :)
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Re: 1/35th FSBR - Fire Support Boat, Riverine
« Reply #99 on: July 09, 2015, 12:49:36 AM »
Looking at he bow of boat and I keep imagining what it would look like with a small bow ramp where the two inside halves of the hull meet up.  Something about the size of the ramp from the Higgins' LCP(R) or UDT Boat in design. 


Actually, the front hull is very reminiscent of the front of the LVTP-5:


I really like the scale of the weapons to the boat. The widening was just right and it really looks like a riverine hull.

One suggestion (and I know this is not the time for suggestions, but I only just found this thread...) is that the open 40mm mount would have been very vulnerable in river combat conditions where the ranges to the shore were very short. It's kinda like urban warfare for boats. Like the single 40mm mounts, a slab sided armoured turret might have made more sense and would have allowed you to keep the less expensive Tamiya turret. The larger boats were also RPG magnets which is why the LCT riverine craft frequently had the bar armour. I'm not suggesting that for the boat, because that way lies madness, but maybe something like that for the turrets might be interesting.

Just random kibitzing of course. :)

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