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Offline Rickshaw

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Project Mulgara
« on: March 23, 2014, 09:52:51 AM »
MULGARA was an Australian Army requirement for a Light Surveillance and Reconnaissance Vehicle (LSRV) in 1994-1997.  It was cancelled in 1997 after budget cuts by the newly elected Howard conservative Government.

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Project Mulgara

Project Mulgara (1994-1997) was to select a Light Surveillance and Reconnaissance Vehicle (LSRV) for the Australian Army going into the 21st century.

Mulgara called for an unladen weight of about 1.5 tonnes, a payload of 1.2 tonnes - all up 2.7 tonnes. This is a tough task indeed as the lightest of the army's current four wheel drives, the 4x4 Perentie, has a payload of up to 1.2 tonnes but on an unladen weight of 2.2 to 2.4 tonnes. As a consequence it is no surprise that many of the submissions were for light-weight, "buggy-style" four wheel drives.

Other tough conditions included 350mm ground clearance, approach and departure angles of 75 and 50 degrees, and the ability to handle a vertical obstacle of 450mm. No standard "consumer" four wheel drive comes near to the ground clearance requirement. The Steyr-Daimler-Puch 4x4 Pinzgauer (not entered) gets close and the Hummer exceeds it but they both have hub-reduction gears and portal axles. They are also more than a little too heavy.

The vehicle had to be able to accelerate from 0 to 100kph in under 20 seconds and to cruise at a minimum of 90kph. Up to 200kg of armour was listed for protection against small-arms and anti-personnel mines. but this could come out of the payload. The tyres were to be able to run flat. A diesel engine was specified.

Fourteen submissions of interest were received by the deadline (Nov 1995):

    ADP of New Zealand
    AM General / HSV - the HMMWV or Hummer
    Australian Defence Industries (ADI) / Raceco-HSMV (US)
    Australian Specialised Defence Equipment / Toyota
    Australian Specialised Vehicles Systems :- (Australian National Industries and Reumech OMC of South Africa)
    Australian Submarine Corporation - Engineering (ASC-E) / Rover (Au and UK) / Tickford Ford
    Bliss Fox Engineering
    British Aerospace Australia (BAeA) / Singapore Technologies Automotive
    International Science and Technology / Mitsubishi / ASC-E
    Jakab of Tamworth NSW
    Martin Marietta Australia / Chenowth (US)
    Tactical Studies Group (TSG) / Isuzu General Motors
    Transfield Defence Systems / Ricardo Special Vehicles UK (RSV)
    WesTrac Systems Engineering / TFM Industries of South Africa

It is hard to imagine Hummers (AM General/HSV), LandCruisers (ASDE/Toyota) or Rodeos (TSG/IGM) meeting the weight and performance requirements without drastic modifications.

Tenders were to be called for in mid 1996, and a small number of tenderers were to be selected in 1997 and asked to submit trial vehicles for an exhaustive testing programme in 1998. A final choice was to be made in 1999 and it was expected that 500 vehicles would be ordered.

After the Australian Federal election of 1996 the Australian Defence Forces were subject to extensive reviews and Project Mulgara was put on hold. The decision was announced on 3 October 1997 to cancel the project. This is a shame from the Four Wheel Drive point of view as some interesting solutions to Mulgara's targets had been proposed. The current priority (1998) is to strengthen the army in the area of armoured vehicles including Project Bushranger.



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Offline Rickshaw

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Re: Project Mulgara
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2014, 10:04:49 AM »
I can't help feel that the Army was barking up the wrong tree with this one.  An unarmoured recce vehicle is cheap but it is also increasingly lethal on the modern battlefield, something I believed they had woken up to by the end of the 1990s, which is why Bushmaster has assumed such importance.  I think they should have been looking more towards the Panhard VBL:



Then you have the Fennek:


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Re: Project Mulgara
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2014, 10:16:39 AM »
I am quite a fan of the MOWAG Eagle and agree on the VBL and Fennec, they are the sort of thing that was needed and we knew it.  My unit had been nominated as part of the test and trials but the project never got that far.  20 years later and LAND 121 Phase 4 look like it may deliver something , maybe!

Interesting times, I was a RAAC Trooper in a reserve unit with a Mechanical trade, post trade and tertiary qualifications working in test trials within the Automotive industry.  Technically I was a nothing and a nobody but my real world background along with that of some of my colleagues made our opinions sought after by the cadre staff and others.  We others in our line troops included a couple of blokes working in technical and management roles at BAE on the Perentie and Bushranger Phase I, some in ASC-E on some od the Mulgara options in design and one at Perry Engineering working on Bushranger Phase II.  We were pretty unique bunch, we even had guys who were civilian techs at the Pt Wakefield Proof Range.
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Offline Rickshaw

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Re: Project Mulgara
« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2014, 12:17:36 PM »
3/9 SAMR?

Offline Volkodav

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Re: Project Mulgara
« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2014, 03:40:30 PM »
Ah huh. been out 15 years now, inactive to start with but then discharged, although I still show up on PMKEYS what ever that means.

Offline Rickshaw

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Re: Project Mulgara
« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2014, 09:18:17 PM »
Knew 3/9 well in the 1980s.  Used to go on Brigade exercises with them as a member of 4 Ord. Pl.  Did several courses with people from there (can't remember names though). Remember one exercise when one of their drivers decided to drive for 2-3 km along a landowner's fence up at Cultana.   :o

Offline Volkodav

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Re: Project Mulgara
« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2014, 10:44:38 PM »
Was AUR early 90s then 3/9 LH through to 99, still miss it and until recently was still aspiring to find the time to do it again before I got too old.  Was looking at RAEME options through a mate at 1 Aviation Regt but also a colleague at work was trying to get me to look at RANR based on my skills and training in my current job.

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Re: Project Mulgara
« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2014, 08:37:33 AM »
AUR = "Adelaides' Useless Regiment"?  ;)  Knew them well as well.  Used to support their AFX each year, supplying the shower support (one of many things I used to do was run the mobile shower/decontamination section) in the early 1980s.   Had quite a few amusing times with them.  They never really figured out how to cope with attached personnel.  ;)  Knew the AUR band quite well, before it got disbanded by the jealous people at Army HQ in Canberra (only time I've seen anybody in the ARes charged for doing something in their free time using their own money [ie travelling to the Edinburgh Tattoo and playing there after being invited by the Tattoo's organisers] after they had been ordered not to [which was not a legal order anyway].  It was quite shameful IMO, destroyed a fantastic pipe band out of petty jealousy.  >:D ).

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Re: Project Mulgara
« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2014, 09:55:33 AM »
That was about the same time they were surveying members with non-Anglo surnames about whether the army culture made them feel socially included if I remember correctly.  Strange times of attempted political correctness by some passed over baby boomer officers was the impression I got.

Offline Rickshaw

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Re: Project Mulgara
« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2014, 10:29:52 AM »
That was about the same time they were surveying members with non-Anglo surnames about whether the army culture made them feel socially included if I remember correctly.  Strange times of attempted political correctness by some passed over baby boomer officers was the impression I got.

Was this from Russell or local?  Sounds like someone was trying to do research for a post-grad thesis.  I worked on a Sociology Survey in 1986 at ADFA which was about attitudes amongst Officer Cadets.  Some interesting insights but I wish they'd kept the longtitudinal aspect of it up.  It would be interesting to see how much their attitudes had been "moulded" by service.

The 1980s were more inclusive IMO than the 1990s and beyond.  There was quite seriously a much wider range of ethnicities and cultural groups then than later.   I remember training Vietnamese, Turkish, Greek, Italian, Yugoslav, you name it.  I served with Chinese, Vietnamese, etc.  Once the Xenophobia started to set in, they quickly sensed they weren't welcome and all decamped, which was a shame, now it's pretty much all Anglo, with a sprinkling of a few southern Europeans.  Like Moshe Dayan, I believe a defence force should represent all the society it's protecting.

I remember one ARes recruit course I instructed on where I was coaching this Vietnamese bloke on the range using the F1 SMG.  He was a superb shot and I asked him if he'd fire automatic weapons before.  His reply was "During the war" (meaning the Vietnam War) and I asked "ARVN?"  And he said, "No, VC!"  I suggested he should keep that quiet, as there were still quite a few Vietnam veterans still serving then.  He agreed.  ;D


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Re: Project Mulgara
« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2014, 10:39:06 AM »
It was an army wide survey and the blokes hit up for it seemed to think it was a bit of a w*** being asked if they thought pipes drums and kilts were offensive and inappropriate in the modern army.

Don't play much with the army any more but the RAN is a real melting pot across race, religion, gender and age.  Very young to some in their 60s, and everyone and everything else thrown in too and it works.  If you listed to some sections of the media you would think they were all tattooed, white supremacist, bogan males, well there are still a lot of tats but it is the navy.  ;)