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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #275 on: March 07, 2022, 08:24:50 AM »
"So is this tiny white thing a pebble or all that's left of the crew?"


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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #276 on: March 08, 2022, 12:56:05 AM »
Not sure what you are referring to?
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« Reply #277 on: March 08, 2022, 01:46:29 AM »
I don't think much would have been left of the crew after a missile hit and a cook off that catapulted the turret 10+ meters.

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« Reply #278 on: March 08, 2022, 01:55:53 AM »
Ah ok.  I thought you were referring to a particular "white pebble" in the image
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« Reply #279 on: March 08, 2022, 04:51:34 AM »
Ever see what's left of a human body after it's been through the crematorium? Think that's where Frank's going with that.

And yeah, Soviet design tanks are notorious for shedding their turrets when penetrated. Catastrophic K-Kills can leave those turrets buried with their gun tubes in the ground leaving them looking like frying pans.


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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #280 on: March 08, 2022, 07:50:17 AM »
Between the initial over pressure and heat of the destroying missile and the cook off of warheads and propellants, you may get some fat stains on less cooked parts of the tank and a few pieces of bone.

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« Reply #281 on: March 19, 2022, 06:00:42 AM »
Nice, thorough blog page on Soviet never-weres.
https://warspot.net/14-the-last-soviet-heavy-tank-destroyers

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« Reply #282 on: March 20, 2022, 12:49:07 AM »
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« Reply #283 on: March 20, 2022, 03:47:36 AM »
the Object 730 & Object 268 plans look suspiciously like the Elephant !

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« Reply #285 on: April 04, 2022, 03:32:39 PM »
Not bad! The engine seems to be running surprisingly clean for an old diesel. :smiley:
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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #286 on: April 04, 2022, 10:24:53 PM »
Is Pooty Poot raiding Kublinka for working tanks? To quote his biggest catamite: "Very low energy. Sad"

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« Reply #287 on: April 17, 2022, 11:01:55 PM »
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« Reply #288 on: April 17, 2022, 11:56:46 PM »
Seen it on Twitter. Someone has already noted this photo should be awarded a Pulitzer prize for feature photography. .

https://www.pulitzer.org/prize-winners-by-category/217
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« Reply #289 on: April 18, 2022, 02:42:44 AM »
 :smiley:
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« Reply #290 on: April 18, 2022, 02:42:44 PM »
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I saw it suggested, that one on each side of the road at border crossings would be pretty cool.

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« Reply #291 on: April 18, 2022, 08:56:21 PM »
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I saw it suggested, that one on each side of the road at border crossings would be pretty cool.


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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #292 on: May 05, 2022, 10:48:38 PM »
Russia sends one of their top of the line T-90M tanks into Ukraine. It went about as well as could be expected...



Russian popcorn walkaround video (doesn't seem to be the same tank, but it is a T-90):

https://twitter.com/i/status/1520890715760480256

Another T-90 kill :

https://twitter.com/triantafyllidi2/status/1522180978336309248

It lasted 2 weeks or less after arriving in-country.

« Last Edit: May 05, 2022, 10:50:15 PM by Frank3k »

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« Reply #293 on: May 05, 2022, 11:05:36 PM »
Another post said that are maybe only 40 T-90Ms is service.

So the smoking wreckage in the background is 2.5% of their T-90M inventory. 
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« Reply #294 on: May 05, 2022, 11:43:25 PM »
Maybe they'll send some T-14 Armatas to see if they'll last a week.

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« Reply #295 on: May 05, 2022, 11:56:31 PM »
Another post said that are maybe only 40 T-90Ms is service.

Nope. There's a ton of them that've been manufactured. Some are probably mothballed.
Much as Wiki is faulty, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-90

It's the best of the best of the best (whatever the string of suffix letters and numbers are) that are few in number.

This be the model -
 

At the end of the day, it boils down to stopping them however you can.   A good shot with a hunting rifle can turn a TC/Platoon Leader/ Company Commander's head into pink mist at 500-600 yard.

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« Reply #296 on: May 06, 2022, 12:11:17 AM »
^ Yup, 50 cal sniper rifle has an anti-materiel role (SEAD in particular) where a shot to an optical window or radar dish has the same immediate effect as a complete kill.

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« Reply #297 on: May 06, 2022, 12:34:11 AM »
^ Yup, 50 cal sniper rifle has an anti-materiel role (SEAD in particular) where a shot to an optical window or radar dish has the same immediate effect as a complete kill.

Thread drift - back in the mid-80s, the USMC Force Recon teams wanted to blow up Soviet fighter nose cones with Raufouss exploding rounds (one shot = one INOP fighter). 

The original Barret (M85?) wasn't feeding those rounds correctly, and the Marines wanted a test weapon as a baseline. My boss converted some BOYS .55 ATRs to .50 with new barrels. 10" groups at 1,000 yards.

Back to eliminating TCs, a .30 / 7.62 DMR would do the job just fine.

Putting this in modeling relevancy, you see a lot of scale TCs riding too high. They should be in what was called "name plate defilade" or if we're talking Frank-level modeling insanity, mounted on a little battery powered elevator so they look like this when displayed



The residual benefit of being that edgy is the great thigh muscle workout.

T90 footnotes
https://sofrep.com/news/russian-tank-manufacturer-uralvagonzavod-halts-production-due-to-low-supply-of-parts/
https://sofrep.com/news/mobile-coffins-russias-most-modern-t-90m-tank-gets-obliterated-in-ukraine/
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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #298 on: May 06, 2022, 01:17:45 AM »
Swedish 6.5mm M96 will do the job at 914m (1,000yds), at least, stock standard. ;)

Proof: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StQ_AcgCnag
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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #299 on: May 06, 2022, 09:02:46 AM »
Maybe they'll send some T-14 Armatas to see if they'll last a week.
No they won't.   After several delays they are not expected to begin production until later this year.   I guess their military industrial complex is as into "fake it until you make it" as ours is.  I will guess that there will be further delays.   I am sure the russians will analyze the Ukrainian War results and incorporate various changes and improvements.  I would guess an in service date of around 2025.