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Offline Tophe

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Re: Tricycle Mitrovich MMS-3 drawing
« Reply #25 on: November 08, 2013, 01:54:05 PM »
With modern 200-300hp engines it would be a blast to fly and used as Alaska bush plane.
Here is the MMS-3F with engines from a Piper Aztec (or an old equivalent of the early 1940s):

Thanks!

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Re: Tricycle Mitrovich MMS-3 drawing
« Reply #26 on: November 08, 2013, 02:15:45 PM »
In case the nose wheel was a way to improve the view forward at take off and landing, another solution would have been a glazed nose:

Re: Tricycle Mitrovich MMS-3 drawing
« Reply #27 on: November 08, 2013, 04:36:03 PM »
Petrović MMS-3H?

Now I'm embarassed again...  :-[

... and in one of my favorite colours  :)
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Re: Tricycle Mitrovich MMS-3 drawing
« Reply #28 on: November 08, 2013, 04:41:25 PM »
@ father ennis

I don't how exactly I helped  ???, but I'm glad I did it. I can't wait to see what are You cooking  ;)

Now look what You made me to do. I was never much fond to use smileys/emoticons, but look at me now  ;D
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Re: Tricycle Mitrovich MMS-3 drawing
« Reply #29 on: November 08, 2013, 11:32:32 PM »
In the meantime, I have finishished step 3B & 3C: Queegovich MMS-3Q and Ericrovich MMS-3E:

formidable !  ;)

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Re: Tricycle Mitrovich MMS-3 drawing
« Reply #30 on: November 09, 2013, 01:42:55 AM »
Thanks!
Now the 2 next ones (last ones?) are the glider version and pusher-version.

Dear Vuk may help finding them a proper code (not the English MMS-3G and P). "Google translate" tells me that glider is једрилица pronounced jedrilica but my memories of Russian Cyrillic tells me this is more ghyedrilitsa, anyway this would be MMS-3J. For pusher, this would be (?) Пусхер pronounced pusher but my memories tells me Puskhyer, anyway this would be MMS-3P. Vuk, is this correct? :)

Offline Tophe

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Re: Tricycle Mitrovich MMS-3 drawing
« Reply #31 on: November 09, 2013, 02:38:37 AM »
Waiting for this code/name explanation, here is the collection that finishes my project "clear my workbench" (5 days later)...

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Re: Tricycle Mitrovich MMS-3 drawing
« Reply #32 on: November 09, 2013, 09:46:28 AM »
very very last steps (maybe?): the push-pull and twin-push (with long shafts) versions:

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Re: Tricycle Mitrovich MMS-3 drawing
« Reply #33 on: November 09, 2013, 10:04:51 AM »
At last, I think the summary may be this:

with:
0= unfinished start 2008
1= finished basis 2013 (thanks to BTS)
2= Real-World completed goal
3= What-if joke (thanks to Queeg)

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Re: Tricycle Mitrovich MMS-3 drawing
« Reply #34 on: November 09, 2013, 11:37:41 AM »
Well in truth,my friends, I was trying to name an aircraft I'm about to finish. I was totally at a loss as to what names to give as well as location of manufacture. I was wanting something East European but my knowledge there is very thin. What you did was provide a great starting point for me to create it's background. Can't say more yet but I think you should find it interesting. One clue,maybe two is it is a floatplane and it will be in service to Greece ,late 30's ... 
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Re: Tricycle Mitrovich MMS-3 drawing
« Reply #35 on: November 09, 2013, 01:15:10 PM »
Yes, you probably found details at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeroput_MMS-3
and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeroput
We'll be glad to see your creation, father! :)

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Re: Tricycle Mitrovich MMS-3 drawing
« Reply #36 on: November 09, 2013, 02:10:09 PM »
Still other ones:

high wing (with main landing gear moved backwards), mid-wing, low-wing.

Re: Tricycle Mitrovich MMS-3 drawing
« Reply #37 on: November 09, 2013, 10:03:08 PM »
Hey, guys!

Tophe, designations for the glider and the pusher variants are completely up to Yours decision. Unlike seaplane/flying boats, such aircrafts were not having some specific designation cliche. Most often, they would be named after a some of engineers from the constructor team, or they would receive the simple designation of exact engine type they used. One confusing example is british Hawker Hurricane Mk I, in service of Royal Yugoslav Air Force. One aircraft was equipped and tested with Daimler-Benz engine from Messerschmitt Bf 109E-3, and it was designated LVT-1 (?). The only thing I was sure is that L stands for Lovac or lovački (fighter), but the other... I just don't have a clue.
Jedrilica is a glider and its pronounce supposed to be Yedrilitsa. The only valuable advice that I could give You is next: when it is about serbian language, forget the Google translate. It's almost useless, in most cases it will give You meaningless translation (like пусхер which not existing in serbian or any other language in Balkans) and I don't recommend it to anyone.

Father Enis, as I said, I can't wait, and now I'm even more inpatient (Ha! Not a single smiley!)

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Re: Tricycle Mitrovich MMS-3 drawing
« Reply #38 on: November 09, 2013, 10:34:23 PM »
Thanks for this expert analysis! :)

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Re: Tricycle Mitrovich MMS-3 drawing
« Reply #39 on: November 10, 2013, 10:12:24 AM »
Well my friends, you will soon see pictures of the  Djordjevic 360H . Just as soon as I can take some and not only that but I'm going to run a contest to go with it. I will be offering a set of Mustang decals in 1/72 scale to whomever can name the kit I used as the base. I'm thinking I will please it in the Clear-Your-Worckbench GB, as I started it a while ago and am only now finishing it. Now if I can do the same for the others I will be in tall cotton. Once again thanks for helping me over my naming hurtle.
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Re: Tricycle Mitrovich MMS-3 drawing
« Reply #40 on: November 10, 2013, 11:39:09 AM »
Well my friends, you will soon see pictures of the  Djordjevic 360H .
Once again thanks for helping me over my naming hurtle.
Dear Vuk, there may be a misunderstanding there. As I remember (Polish language and):

Jedrilica is a glider and its pronounce supposed to be Yedrilitsa.

It seems Father Ennis wants to pronounce like the Enflish Georgevich, and he seems to know that many people need a Dj writing for that (in French, John is pronounced ghonn and we would need the writing Djohn to pronounce it well automatically). But you seemed to say that "your" J is pronounced Y (like in Poland) and I am not sure that is what Father wants to pronounce. For example, with your letters, how do you write the Beatles' name George Harrison?

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Re: Tricycle Mitrovich MMS-3 drawing
« Reply #41 on: November 11, 2013, 11:49:39 AM »
Ok now I'm confused ...   Did I do something wrong ?  I took one of the surnames offered and added to it. The 360H was intended to be equal to 360floatplane and made by the Djordjevic aircraft company.  I just liked the name !  It has that perfect East European ring to it .  Please correct any errors I might have made..
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Re: Tricycle Mitrovich MMS-3 drawing
« Reply #42 on: November 11, 2013, 05:21:09 PM »
Well, yet another trouble with serbian (facepalm).

I just say that... You're both wright! The designation Father Ennis choose is originally written Ђорђевић. Transcribed in Latin, it could be written as Đorđević, but since in serbian d+j gives dj, it is also correct to write Djordjevic. One of my all-time favorite basketball players is Aleksandar Đorđević, now coaching in Italy. I remember one time, most likely as a result of confusion with serbian/yugoslav names, aome TV station wrote his name as Dordevic. Now, that would be mistake, but Ђорђевић/Đorđević/Djordjević/Djordjevic/Djordjevich is not.

Now, who said the we, Serbs, are not complicated. And why we don't have here an icon for facepalm? And what is correct: facepalm or palmface? That was always confusing me...
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Re: Tricycle Mitrovich MMS-3 drawing
« Reply #43 on: November 11, 2013, 05:25:40 PM »
... and I forgot to answer about the George Harrison.

His name in serbia is transcribed as (take a deep breath) - Džordž!
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Offline Tophe

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Re: Tricycle Mitrovich MMS-3 drawing
« Reply #44 on: November 11, 2013, 05:45:57 PM »
Thanks for this expertise once more. We would have been unable to find that explanations in a dictionary or else...

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Re: Tricycle Mitrovich MMS-3 drawing
« Reply #45 on: November 12, 2013, 08:34:26 AM »
Mmmmmmmmm ..... Ok ...   Well at least I did get it right.  Now I need to get on the stick and post something ..
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Re: Tricycle Mitrovich MMS-3 drawing
« Reply #46 on: November 13, 2013, 09:46:37 AM »
What a teaser, father... :)

Well, I must confess that, before finishing my vectorized MMS-3, I already made a bitmap trnasformation into a 3-engined tractor:
http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/Mitrovich-MMS-3_3m.JPG
But now with the vectorized source, I can do much more about tractor central engine, into a single-engined plane simply:

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Re: Tricycle Mitrovich MMS-3 drawing
« Reply #47 on: November 14, 2013, 05:02:14 AM »
I think your Tricycle Mitrovich MMS-3 drawings are some of the most delightful you've ever done, Tophe!

All of them are excellent, but of course, those spats are irresistibly cute!

Brian da Basher

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Re: Tricycle Mitrovich MMS-3 drawing
« Reply #48 on: November 14, 2013, 10:00:30 AM »
I have to say,until I saw your work with this I never knew this existed. I just wish,now, that someone made a kit of this. I would buy it in a minute if they did.  I hope you will do some more of these unknown aircraft.
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Re: Tricycle Mitrovich MMS-3 drawing
« Reply #49 on: November 14, 2013, 11:25:41 AM »
Thanks Brian!

I hope you will do some more of these unknown aircraft.
Another built & unknown twin-boomer that I love is the Filipino Tagak, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I.S.T._XL-15_Tagak