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Offline Claymore

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BMP-2 Vagyar
« on: September 06, 2013, 11:36:09 PM »
As I am away from home for the next 2 weeks and therefore unlikely to complete my current project in time for the GB cut off date, I thought that I would post what I have anyway.  I don't think I was ever really going to make it in time, as I only started it a week ago.  Such is life....

The build of the BMP-2 Vagyar is pretty well complete. As you can see the design is heavily influenced by the Swedish Strv 103 'S-Tank' but comes out bigger and all together a lot meaner. Full backstory would have followed on completion.  I'll post it across on the main Land thread in due course.





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Offline Claymore

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Re: BMP-2 Vagyar
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2013, 11:37:18 PM »

A spray of undercoat helps pull it all together...





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Offline Logan Hartke

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Re: BMP-2 Vagyar
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2013, 11:59:50 PM »
Had never thought of that before, but it looks like a natural.  That's going to look amazing painted.

Cheers,

Logan
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Re: BMP-2 Vagyar
« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2013, 12:04:49 AM »
That just looks simply fantastic.  The primer/undercoat makes it look like it was always meant to be in this configuration.  Nicely done.
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Re: BMP-2 Vagyar
« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2013, 12:24:47 AM »
Wow!
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Offline Claymore

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Re: BMP-2 Vagyar
« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2013, 12:36:34 AM »
Thank you all.  Although I had a basic plan, the build has evolved somewhat as I got my head around some practical issues with the turret-less design.  Hence the Remote Weapons Station, defensive aids and rear facing camera pod.  Shame I will not be able do any more before the competition closes but I will hopefully have the painted end product (probably in some wacky Russian winter camo) posted on the Land thread by the end of the month.
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Offline Weaver

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Re: BMP-2 Vagyar
« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2013, 02:01:25 AM »
That looks really great. At first glace you register it as an S-tank and them your brain goes "hang on a minute..."





BTW, I could've sworn I posted a comment about this before leaving work tonight..... ???
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Re: BMP-2 Vagyar
« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2013, 02:10:10 AM »
Absolutely wicked!  Great idea to use those Hoffman devices as smoke grenade launchers. 
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Offline Claymore

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Re: BMP-2 Vagyar
« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2013, 02:34:49 AM »
Quote from: Weaver on September 07, 2013, 02:01:25 AM
That looks really great. At first glace you register it as an S-tank and them your brain goes "hang on a minute..."

BTW, I could've sworn I posted a comment about this before leaving work tonight..... ???

Thanks.  When I post the backstory you will see that the S-tank is very much the Russian's inspiration but for a very different war.

Ah the posting gremlins have been at work!  :o
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Offline Claymore

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Re: BMP-2 Vagyar
« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2013, 02:36:00 AM »
Quote from: Jeffry Fontaine on September 07, 2013, 02:10:10 AM
Absolutely wicked!  Great idea to use those Hoffman devices as smoke grenade launchers.

Thanks and well spotted.  It's surprising what turns up in the spares box!  ;)
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Re: BMP-2 Vagyar
« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2013, 02:40:36 AM »
Quote from: Claymore on September 07, 2013, 02:36:00 AM
Quote from: Jeffry Fontaine on September 07, 2013, 02:10:10 AM
Absolutely wicked!  Great idea to use those Hoffman devices as smoke grenade launchers.

Thanks and well spotted.  It's surprising what turns up in the spares box!  ;)

I know all too well.  The Hoffman device in particular was one of those things that never appealed to me since it was just a noise maker for simulation of main gun firing.  The damned things were showing up in a couple of the Tamiya models and accessory kits so I ended up with a good number of them without much effort.  I was cutting away the barrel/gun tube clamps and planning to use the things for flare/chaff launchers on a couple of aircraft projects.  Now I may have to rethink that plan and try your idea out on a ground vehicle. 
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Offline Claymore

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Re: BMP-2 Vagyar
« Reply #11 on: September 07, 2013, 03:48:27 AM »
Yes, I must admit that I came across 4 of them in my spares box; but that's the great thing about kit-bashing, everything gets recycled.  :))
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Re: BMP-2 Vagyar
« Reply #12 on: September 07, 2013, 06:02:38 AM »
That is brilliant ... and totally believable  :)
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Re: BMP-2 Vagyar
« Reply #13 on: September 07, 2013, 06:35:42 AM »
That is wicked looking.
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Re: BMP-2 Vagyar
« Reply #14 on: September 07, 2013, 09:44:46 AM »
That looks really good! It looks like a very tight fit with the barrel going through the engine compartment;the breech is in the engine cooling ductwork/space. But it is a Russian vehicle, so crew comfort and safety are secondary considerations.
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Offline Old Wombat

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Re: BMP-2 Vagyar
« Reply #15 on: September 07, 2013, 10:30:52 AM »
Claymore, that is brilliant! 8)

A Russian vehicle modified to a Swedish concept with a German remote weapon station & it looks natural! :D

Be great to see it painted up. :))

:)

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Re: BMP-2 Vagyar
« Reply #16 on: September 07, 2013, 12:48:08 PM »
Quote from: Old Wombat on September 07, 2013, 10:30:52 AM
Claymore, that is brilliant! 8)

A Russian vehicle modified to a Swedish concept with a German remote weapon station & it looks natural! :D

Be great to see it painted up. :))

:)

Guy

What Old Wombat said.   :)
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Offline taiidantomcat

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Re: BMP-2 Vagyar
« Reply #17 on: September 09, 2013, 10:48:37 AM »
Completely out of nowhere  :-* Wish I thought of it  :)
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Re: BMP-2 Vagyar
« Reply #18 on: September 10, 2013, 08:37:33 AM »
Yes.. it certainly does require a second take.

Great (and very swift) construction, as always.
In so many ways it would be a maintenance nightmare but hey.. it is Russian.
I can almost see the Autoloader clanking away, 5cm from the commanders face.

Great Build

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Offline ysi_maniac

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Re: BMP-2 Vagyar
« Reply #19 on: September 12, 2013, 03:19:24 AM »
Great concept and model!
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Offline Claymore

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Re: BMP-2 Vagyar
« Reply #20 on: September 23, 2013, 12:34:14 AM »
Thank you all very much.  This one has been sitting in the back of my mind for quite a while.  I first thought of the idea back in 2008 when I was designing a strategic wargame based on a PRC intervention into the Siberian oilfields of a Russia that was recovering from a WW3 type scenario in 1993 (a previous series of games).  It is very much meant to be a wartime/all hands to the pumps expedience and so is good enough as opposed to perfect. So... clunky autoloader - yup, right in the commander's face - yup, German RWS copied from captured vehicles - yup, gas turbine to make up for loss of engine space - yup.  But what you end up with is a 3-man, light weight, highly mobile, heavy hitting AT gun system that is ideally suited for scooting about the Siberian forests.

As promised, I will post the finished model with full backstory in the Land thread... ... ... Ah, just noticed it has already been moved into the land thread.  :-[  In that case watch this space.  ;)
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Offline Claymore

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Re: BMP-2 Vagyar
« Reply #21 on: October 04, 2013, 05:31:12 AM »
No I haven't slipped into a comma, I am still working in this #%**~# model.  I tried painting the damned thing in a modern Russian winter camo scheme and it looked awful so it is currently back to a grey primer coat.  I'm going to give it a go in a Swedish/Finnish/Russian style woodland splinter camo instead and see what happens.  :(
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Offline Old Wombat

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Re: BMP-2 Vagyar
« Reply #22 on: October 05, 2013, 10:53:21 PM »
Have you thought of going for a more "traditional" Russian winter scheme? ???

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Offline Claymore

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Re: BMP-2 Vagyar
« Reply #23 on: October 06, 2013, 04:54:45 AM »
Quote from: Old Wombat on October 05, 2013, 10:53:21 PM
Have you thought of going for a more "traditional" Russian winter scheme? ???

:)

Guy

Yes mate I have and it may well yet be the way that things end up.  I now have the paints for the woodland splinter cam so we will see how that turns out; but if it turns into a sordid pair of pants, I'll go with the white and dark green!  ;)
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Offline Claymore

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Re: BMP-2 Vagyar
« Reply #24 on: October 24, 2013, 02:42:12 AM »
Just to let you know that I have not fallen out of the AH AFV modelling tree and am now well on the way to finishing the BMP-2 based Vagyar.

At last I settled on a camo job that I was happy with (heavily based on an actual Finnish Army scheme). I have attached a couple of picture to show you how things are going although there is much yet to do. I will probably also replace the bent antenna which suffer from a close encounter with a curious cat beast.

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