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Re: F-35 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #525 on: March 30, 2022, 02:04:44 AM »
Seems the Canadian purchase is now back on ----- so buying this below years ago wasn't just wishful thinking   ;)
If Canada holds off on the F-35 acquisition for a couple of more years they might get a great deal on a fleet of second hand Australian F-35s when the RAAF upgrades to the next version of the F-35 or its replacement...
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Re: F-35 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #526 on: March 30, 2022, 02:09:13 AM »
Despite the ADF arming up, it will be about 30yrs before there are any RAAF F-35 hand me downs.
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Re: F-35 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #527 on: March 30, 2022, 03:46:30 AM »
Nice mug Robert. I hope we can get at least one for the RCAF 100 Year Anniversary in 2024.

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Re: F-35 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #528 on: March 30, 2022, 08:50:44 AM »
I'm sure Greg could organise an F-35 mug for the RCAF for its Centenary, he may even be generous enough to source a case of them by 2024. ;D
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Re: F-35 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #529 on: March 31, 2022, 01:50:43 AM »
There are options (see here for example) though I am not sure about that exact one.
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Re: F-35 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #530 on: June 04, 2022, 09:39:09 PM »
Can anyone tell me what the "official" designation for the F-35 is, in RAF/RN service? Is it like Lightning II F (A).1 or FRS.1

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Re: F-35 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #531 on: June 05, 2022, 01:08:49 AM »
Can anyone tell me what the "official" designation for the F-35 is, in RAF/RN service? Is it like Lightning II F (A).1 or FRS.1

https://www.raf.mod.uk/aircraft/lightning-f35b/
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Re: F-35 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #532 on: June 05, 2022, 03:19:28 AM »
Can anyone tell me what the "official" designation for the F-35 is, in RAF/RN service? Is it like Lightning II F (A).1 or FRS.1

https://www.raf.mod.uk/aircraft/lightning-f35b/

Thanks Greg, so it doesn't have a British designation, just F-35B

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Re: F-35 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #533 on: June 05, 2022, 03:26:04 AM »
Well that's what the RAF says.
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Re: F-35 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #534 on: June 05, 2022, 04:59:42 AM »
Yeah!, I'm a bit surprised that's all ---

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Re: F-35 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #535 on: June 26, 2022, 05:16:59 AM »

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Re: F-35 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #536 on: June 26, 2022, 05:17:50 AM »


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Re: F-35 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #537 on: June 26, 2022, 05:18:57 AM »


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Re: F-35 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #538 on: June 26, 2022, 06:25:47 AM »
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Re: F-35 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #539 on: November 05, 2022, 02:38:13 AM »
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Re: F-35 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #540 on: December 17, 2022, 12:51:01 AM »


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Re: F-35 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #541 on: December 20, 2022, 02:31:53 PM »
Given the overall lines and the way the airframe goes together, I would be more inclined to expect a two-seatF-35 to be side-by-side seating rather than tandem. Other than that quibble, I loved the F-35D art. One thing I'd love to see would be a single-seat F-35 with dual IFR capability, both flying boom and hose and drogue.  It would add cost and software complexity, but I could see it simplifying deplolyments.

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Re: F-35 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #542 on: December 21, 2022, 01:46:15 AM »
Given the overall lines and the way the airframe goes together, I would be more inclined to expect a two-seatF-35 to be side-by-side seating rather than tandem.

That would be interesting...and challenging to model.
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Re: F-35 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #543 on: December 21, 2022, 04:47:20 AM »
Given the overall lines and the way the airframe goes together, I would be more inclined to expect a two-seatF-35 to be side-by-side seating rather than tandem.

That would be interesting...and challenging to model.

Well, not really ---- I found that a TF-102 cockpit has a very close cross-section to the F-35B cross-section at that type' bulkhead, but more importantly, about the same size. I also found that a 1/48 F-35B canopy happens to be roughly the same size as the TF-102' canopy. It didn't take all that imagineering to come up with a plan ------  Which is to try and build it before I can't ----

But another thing about the TF-102 cockpit, it's much wider where the seats are than any of the Brit side-by-side trainers that I've matched it too ---
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Re: F-35 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #544 on: December 22, 2022, 01:14:27 AM »
Hmmm...ok...interesting.
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Re: F-35 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #545 on: December 22, 2022, 03:44:24 AM »
My idea is that the RAF would eventually need a new trainer, the T.4 Harriers are not going to last forever. So the mod would be for a F-35B but it could be a trainer for all of the F-35 variants.

There is still a bit of work to do, for instance, the TF-102 cockpit could actually be a bit smaller so I could fit the modified 1/48 F-35B canopy. The TF-102 cockpit is 1/72 scale too.  My plan is to use the 1/48 F-35B canopy, but it needs a bit of trimming to bring the height down to size, whereas the width once trimmed is about right. So what I would do with the styrene is to cut the rear decking behind the canopy off, I would then cut the top on the fuselage off along that line you can see running along the chine. Then I would sand the center mating faces of the fuselage join until it matched what I had trimmed off the canopy. I would then cut off the remainder of the rear end of the fuselage bits where I've shaded it.. This then would be mounted to where the existing bulkhead is at the rear of the cockpit.

Interestingly, not only does the TF-102 cockpit bits have a close cross-section, I found the nose wheel bay is right where the F-35 wheel bay is, I would then graft a F-35B wheel bay instead of the conversions wheel bay.

I had talked to Evan about this as I was thinking it out, I said to him I would extend the rear fuselage from just behind the wing trailing edge by adding in one more fuselage frame, to counter any cg problems. I studied a couple of photos of F-35's in production and guestimated the frames were about 3 feet apart, so adding the extra frame in the section where the fuselage profile seems to run parallel wouldn't be that much of a problem structural wise. What this would do is move the engine, tail planes and fin/rudders back 3 feet to counter the weight of the larger cockpit section. This also allowed me to use the bomb bay of the F-35A.

I would move the roll puffers back one frame space too, but leave the main gear where they are.

The pics below are what the link said was F-35 structure
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Re: F-35 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #546 on: December 22, 2022, 04:42:28 AM »
It occurred to me that the cost of what would be a very expensive trainer, would restrict who would be buying it. My thoughts around this, is the aircraft could be used to do something completely different to just training.

I talked this over with Evan too, I had asked that if the aircraft is all fly-by-wire, and all electrical everything else, you could have a very clever bit of software where you could change what the right-seater does, at a flick of a switch. The right side could be made to do SEAD work, using all the controls and switches doing another job, with the instruments showing different on the screens etc.

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Re: F-35 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #547 on: December 22, 2022, 04:01:00 PM »
I have considered combining a F-35A kit with bits from a F-35B or F-35C to do the dual-refueling version.  Since the bay where the refueling probe retracts is kept to the same layout on the F-35A, that part of such a change shouldn't be difficult.

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Re: F-35 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #548 on: December 23, 2022, 01:57:17 AM »
Italian F-35Bs:



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Re: F-35 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #549 on: February 10, 2023, 03:04:11 AM »


Norwegian F-35 Lightning II

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