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Re: Hawker Hunter Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #175 on: March 08, 2023, 03:52:01 PM »
Hawker Havoc: straight wings version of Hunter



What about a scale o rama Hunter with extra small Canberra wings and engines? Your pic here already has the Canberra tail!
I have the old box scale Revell B-57 in the stash. The cockpit is awful so why not slap the wings on a 1/48th Hunter? Boy, I need another project!

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Re: Hawker Hunter Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #176 on: September 08, 2023, 04:45:30 PM »
The Swedish J34As were the equivalent of the Hunter F.4.  How about a simple whiff of Sweden upgrading these to a standard equivalent to the hunter FG,9  as AJ34Cs (J34B being a one-offwtrialing a thurst reverser)?

I was wrong, the thrust reverser was a British effirt.  So, J34B as the equivalent of the Hunter F.6 (either new builds or rebuilds) with the AJ-34C being, as noted above, the equivalent of the Hunter FGA.9.  Perhaps a later iteration to AJ-34D with the addition of maverick capability like the Swiss added.  Perhaps also with an upgrade to the equivalent of a dry Avon 300 series engine.
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Re: Hawker Hunter Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #177 on: September 18, 2023, 09:18:01 PM »
Navy Hunter, Nice!!

Or how about these, Hawker Huntress'

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Re: Hawker Hunter Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #178 on: October 10, 2023, 08:28:04 AM »
Staying with Swedish Hunters, perhaps getting Hawker P.1109 data and developing an AJ-34D as a trials aircraft for the Draken's radar?  A succesful enough effort to warrant a production or conversion batch.
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Re: Hawker Hunter Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #179 on: October 17, 2023, 11:23:48 AM »
Another thought, a supersonice two-seat, side-by-side seating Hunter, with radar nose, P.1081 wings, and the more sloped windscreen of the two-seat Lightnings.

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Re: Hawker Hunter Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #180 on: October 26, 2023, 03:16:43 AM »
What if, in an attempt to garner more internal volume/space for additional avionics the Boffins at Hawker/BAE removed the 30mm ADEN gun package from the Hunter to make room for the black boxes needed for an improved fire control radar?  The now upgraded Hunter would still require at the very least two 30mm guns so the Boffins adapted the gun pods from the Harrier to the underside of the fuselage between the main landing gear.  As far as the radar improvements go, I have yet to determine what type of radar could be adapted to fit in the nose of the hunter due to the limited amount of space available.  I will leave that to others to sort out since I was more focused on the Harrier gun pods on a Hunter. 
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Re: Hawker Hunter Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #181 on: October 26, 2023, 03:28:40 AM »
What if, in an attempt to garner more internal volume/space for additional avionics the Boffins at Hawker/BAE removed the 30mm ADEN gun package from the Hunter to make room for the black boxes needed for an improved fire control radar?  The now upgraded Hunter would still require at the very least two 30mm guns so the Boffins adapted the gun pods from the Harrier to the underside of the fuselage between the main landing gear.  As far as the radar improvements go, I have yet to determine what type of radar could be adapted to fit in the nose of the hunter due to the limited amount of space available.  I will leave that to others to sort out since I was more focused on the Harrier gun pods on a Hunter.

I think you will find that in RAF service the Hunter was largely retired by the time the Harrier entered service (maybe about a 1yr overlap).  That would therefore challenge anything for RAF.  Of course other operators such as the Swiss might get involved but they would have to fund the upgrade.

Another idea triggered by yours is an all missile armed Hunter (i.e. no guns at all), potentially with radar/additional avionics as you have suggested but with something like two Red Top and two Blue Dolphin missiles in a Soviet style approach a bit like below:



Or similar to this:



One might even go with IR and SARH sidewinders to get the similar effect.
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Re: Hawker Hunter Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #182 on: October 26, 2023, 03:37:46 AM »
Another option might be a dedicated Recon version with the guns totally removed and the gun pack area utilised for more cameras.  this would be a further step away from the FR.10/PR.11 variants which just used nose cameras IIRC.
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Re: Hawker Hunter Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #183 on: October 26, 2023, 03:42:18 AM »
Just for inspiration:







CFBVs
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Re: Hawker Hunter Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #184 on: October 26, 2023, 04:29:54 AM »
Another option might be a dedicated Recon version with the guns totally removed and the gun pack area utilised for more cameras.  this would be a further step away from the FR.10/PR.11 variants which just used nose cameras IIRC.
I had considered the camera option for the gun bay but opted to focus on the gun pod adaptation to keep it short and simple.  :smiley:
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Re: Hawker Hunter Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #185 on: October 27, 2023, 05:45:21 PM »
Just for inspiration:







CFBVs

Ive got the conversion kit for that, and the supersonic one as well

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Re: Hawker Hunter Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #186 on: October 28, 2023, 01:45:52 AM »
I wish there was a 1/48 one
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Re: Hawker Hunter Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #187 on: October 28, 2023, 05:08:57 AM »
Now you need the two seat version too!

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Re: Hawker Hunter Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #189 on: October 29, 2023, 06:59:57 AM »
Colin Strachan of Freightdog has two 1/72 conversions

FREIGHTDOG 1/72 WHAT-IF HAWKER TANDEM HUNTER FIGHTER RECONNAISSANCE



I do like the idea of a prone bombardier in the glass nose of a single-seat (Navy ?) Hunter :D  Might be a tight squeeze for the guy but that's standard for British aircraft.
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Re: Hawker Hunter Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #190 on: October 30, 2023, 01:57:43 AM »
 :smiley:
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Re: Hawker Hunter Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #191 on: October 30, 2023, 07:46:33 AM »
This may have to be a twin-engine machine ?

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Re: Hawker Hunter Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #192 on: March 23, 2024, 01:18:03 AM »
Did a write-up on alternate Swedish Hunters for the other site newsletter.  I'll be interested in Feedback.

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Re: Hawker Hunter Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #193 on: June 29, 2024, 08:47:35 PM »
Nose or Chin intake Hunter